[Dev] wiki-editing / translations

[Luke Shumaker]

On Thu, 11 May 2023 05:58:09 -0600,
Daniel wrote:
> Hi all ;)
> 
> I'm currently "playing" with an offline mediawiki for myself to get an idea what 
> a good workflow to translate pages could be. I've copied some random templates 
> to get used to them.
> 
> I've started using the Parabola installation guide and translated it close to 
> the english original into german language with following questions coming to 
> my mind:

>  - do I need to translate the templates the same as default sites, e.g. 
> "Template:Note(Deutsch)" or is there a special case to look at?
>  - There are some in-article-pages like {{:Installation Guide/Inits Note}}. 
> Same question here. Is it better to include the translations in the main 
> article or to create subpages like in the english version for better 
> maintenance? Afaik there is no automatism to check such things?

I am unqualified to answer these questions.

>  - As there is no signing in with my parabola account, is the mailing list the 
> right place to publish changes like site translations? Would be great to have 
> a kind of reviewing as I get "blind" while translating a larger part of text.

Are you saying you're having trouble signing in to
https://wiki.parabola.nu ?  If so, we should fix that.  Do note that
wiki.parabola.nu accounts are separate from labs.parabola.nu accounts.

But yes, if you would like someone to review your work,
dev at lists.parabola.nu is a fine place to post.

>  - Do you favor translating english parabola-pages  (like I did) or adjust 
> archwiki-pages to keep close to them?


>  - is there already a possibility to work offline? I do my editing in emacs and 
> do not really like the web-edit stuff.

SAME.  I just copy the text into Emacs and then copy it back to the
webpage when I'm done.

For a while I was working on modifying MediaWiki to use a Git backend
instead of MariaDB, so that Emacs editing was smoother.  But sadly, I
never finished that project...

I think I once came accross an Emacs package that let you edit MediaWiki
pages via TRAMP?  I don't remember why I didn't start using it.

> And last but not least: The english pages itself could need some more 
> information on contributing as it is difficult to really get an idea how you 
> imagined a workflow while setting the site up.

The answer is that it was originally based off of the Arch Wiki
version of the page.  And then got outdated, and it's easier to simply
remove outdated information than to update it.  And then the Arch Wiki
version got totally rewritten, and smashing the two back together got
hard.  And also, IMO the Arch Wiki version isn't particularly good
these days either.

(PS: I replied to the list, rather than the usual thing of replying to
you and Cc'ing the list, so hopefully winston.parabola.nu will forward
it to you, working around the fact that t-online.de has blacklisted
my mail server)

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker