[Dev] [consensus][due: 2017-05-01] Emulatorman's expulsion

Tue Apr 11 16:50:19 GMT 2017

ti., 11.04.2017 kl. 14.35 +0200, skrev aurelien:
> > > > El 10/04/17 a las 10:02, André Silva escribió:
> > > > > Hi guys, since there was a lot of misunderstanding about the
> > > > > previous discussion [0], i would share in details a private
> > > > > conversation between fauno, the involved Parabola devs and me
> > > > > after
> > > > > the pad. Therefore, if i'm to blame for all of it, then i
> > > > > would
> > > > > give the decision in the hands of the community to decide my
> > > > > expulsion or still wish to stay in Parabola, since it could
> > > > > be the
> > > > > best way to solve this issue inside our community, therefore
> > > > > I
> > > > > won't respond more emails of this consensus.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the private email, g4jc and me were explaining the details
> > > > > and 
> > > > > reasons about that pad, Ceata, Roumania and my proposal about
> > > > > open
> > > > > a legal entity (offshore). [1]
> > > > > 
> > > > > I should very much like to clear up that i never had plans to
> > > > > make
> > > > > "Tax evasion” without the devs declaring gains in their
> > > > > residential countries. In one of those emails i put the
> > > > > following:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Obviously, if we use only offshore without a way to declare
> > > > > and
> > > > > pay fees and taxes in our residence countries when the money
> > > > > is
> > > > > arrived “in our hands”, it is considered “Tax evasion”.
> > > > > Although
> > > > > numbers are difficult to ascertain, it is widely believed
> > > > > that
> > > > > individuals in wealthy nations unlawfully evade tax through
> > > > > not
> > > > > declaring gains made by offshore vehicles that they own."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some of our devs were interested about offer Services
> > > > > (technical 
> > > > > support, pentesting) and a WebStore to receive money and go
> > > > > toward 
> > > > > Parabola developers, as a way to pay their bills, food,
> > > > > inside
> > > > > Parabola, otherwise a certain percentage go to Parabola
> > > > > project.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Those "secret meetings" were a proposal made by me to suggest
> > > > > them 
> > > > > prepare and fulfil their ideas before begin the consensus
> > > > > inside 
> > > > > Parabola, to the community make a decision under consensus.
> > > > > More
> > > > > details about another things you can read in that private
> > > > > email
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Afterall, maybe is it my fault? yes or no? i don't know, i
> > > > > prefer
> > > > > keep this decision for the community since it is its distro,
> > > > > not
> > > > > mine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If i should be kick off from Parabola, no problem i will
> > > > > accept it
> > > > > and i'll bring the happy memories in Parabola, without
> > > > > exceptions,
> > > > > devs and users, in short, the community! Therefore and
> > > > > independent
> > > > > of the consensus decision, i would to thank God, all devs,
> > > > > users
> > > > > and all people for all, no matter our differences. If i made
> > > > > mistakes or bother you, i'm so sorry!
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW, don't fight between yourself for my fault, i wish you
> > > > > join
> > > > > forces to go ahead together since Parabola is a wonderful
> > > > > distro
> > > > > and it need fight for the freedom for its community!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Someday ago, i remembered about user that said me "Is it a
> > > > > bird? a 
> > > > > plane? It's Emulatorman", i would respond him "Thanks, but
> > > > > i'm not
> > > > > a hero, i'm as mortal as anyone else, full of defects, I'm
> > > > > just a
> > > > > human, not a machine."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sincerely, André.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2017-April/004848
> > > > > .html 
> > > > > [1]:https://repo.parabola.nu/other/parabola-emails/private_co
> > > > > nversa
> > > > > tion.txt?noredirect
> 
> Jorginho <jorginho at riseup.net> writes:
> > I think that you have done a lot of for Parabola GNU/Linux-libre,
> > nights
> > without sleep compiling packages and creating new packages.
> > Sincerely, I
> > think that Parabola would not exist now if you had not worked hard
> > all
> > this time. If you decided to go out and colaborate with other
> > distro or
> > create a new one I will go with you because I like your way of
> > thinking
> > and doing.
> > 
> > El 10/04/17 a las 18:31, Stig Roar Wangberg escribió:
> > > ma., 10.04.2017 kl. 12.49 -0300, skrev Megver83:
> > > > My answer will be simple: you have done a lot for Parabola and
> > > > its
> > > > community, you deserve more than being expulsed. The Parabola
> > > > project
> > > > depends on all its hackers, from the artists to the packagers.
> > > 
> > > +1
> 
> That is disturbing, but, that is not the thing that disturb me.
You are disturbing.
> 
> You are Human and by the way you can comit fault.
Like you. And everyone else.
> 
> `But in that hundred of lines I do not read the part of your excuse
> to
> fauno.`
Why should he? Did anyone of you popes ask Emulatorman for fogiveness?

> For that, and the secret society you have create rejecting thus who
> don't care of money from the choice and orientation of the project,
> that
> is difficult to consider you as a good Human but a good manipulator.

Fuck you! On behalf of a good-hearted person: Fuck you! There is no
secret society, and I wonder who is the manipulator here. 
> 
> You do a lot for the project, from technical to much more, but does
> that
> mean it give right to you to decide for all and manipulate people?
Wow, you admit he's a hardworking man that works around the clock for
Parabola? Wow, that must have been hard to bring out! And who is he
manipulating? Is it manipulation to want somethign good for Parabola?
Oh, I see: He didn't ask for the pope's mercy! 
> 
> As I told you, but you just want to see the point, share the building
> kernel pack with a new incomer and get time to find your way in the
> project would be welcome.
> 
> Kind regards

You're everything *but* kind! You're rude and hurting people! To be
honest, I hope Emulatorman and all the hardworking devs leave! You
don't deserve him. 

I for one had enough of this shit! I'm def. out of here!

> 
> Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
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