[Dev] [consensus][due: 2017-05-01] Emulatorman's expulsion

aurelien aurelien at hackers.camp
Tue Apr 11 12:35:53 GMT 2017


>>> El 10/04/17 a las 10:02, André Silva escribió:
>>>> Hi guys, since there was a lot of misunderstanding about the
>>>> previous discussion [0], i would share in details a private
>>>> conversation between fauno, the involved Parabola devs and me after
>>>> the pad. Therefore, if i'm to blame for all of it, then i would
>>>> give the decision in the hands of the community to decide my
>>>> expulsion or still wish to stay in Parabola, since it could be the
>>>> best way to solve this issue inside our community, therefore I
>>>> won't respond more emails of this consensus.
>>>>
>>>> In the private email, g4jc and me were explaining the details and 
>>>> reasons about that pad, Ceata, Roumania and my proposal about open
>>>> a legal entity (offshore). [1]
>>>>
>>>> I should very much like to clear up that i never had plans to make
>>>> "Tax evasion” without the devs declaring gains in their
>>>> residential countries. In one of those emails i put the following:
>>>>
>>>> "Obviously, if we use only offshore without a way to declare and
>>>> pay fees and taxes in our residence countries when the money is
>>>> arrived “in our hands”, it is considered “Tax evasion”. Although
>>>> numbers are difficult to ascertain, it is widely believed that
>>>> individuals in wealthy nations unlawfully evade tax through not
>>>> declaring gains made by offshore vehicles that they own."
>>>>
>>>> Some of our devs were interested about offer Services (technical 
>>>> support, pentesting) and a WebStore to receive money and go toward 
>>>> Parabola developers, as a way to pay their bills, food, inside
>>>> Parabola, otherwise a certain percentage go to Parabola project.
>>>>
>>>> Those "secret meetings" were a proposal made by me to suggest them 
>>>> prepare and fulfil their ideas before begin the consensus inside 
>>>> Parabola, to the community make a decision under consensus. More
>>>> details about another things you can read in that private email
>>>> [1]
>>>>
>>>> Afterall, maybe is it my fault? yes or no? i don't know, i prefer
>>>> keep this decision for the community since it is its distro, not
>>>> mine.
>>>>
>>>> If i should be kick off from Parabola, no problem i will accept it
>>>> and i'll bring the happy memories in Parabola, without exceptions,
>>>> devs and users, in short, the community! Therefore and independent
>>>> of the consensus decision, i would to thank God, all devs, users
>>>> and all people for all, no matter our differences. If i made
>>>> mistakes or bother you, i'm so sorry!
>>>>
>>>> BTW, don't fight between yourself for my fault, i wish you join
>>>> forces to go ahead together since Parabola is a wonderful distro
>>>> and it need fight for the freedom for its community!
>>>>
>>>> Someday ago, i remembered about user that said me "Is it a bird? a 
>>>> plane? It's Emulatorman", i would respond him "Thanks, but i'm not
>>>> a hero, i'm as mortal as anyone else, full of defects, I'm just a
>>>> human, not a machine."
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely, André.
>>>>
>>>> [0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2017-April/004848.html 
>>>> [1]:https://repo.parabola.nu/other/parabola-emails/private_conversa
>>>> tion.txt?noredirect
Jorginho <jorginho at riseup.net> writes:
> I think that you have done a lot of for Parabola GNU/Linux-libre, nights
> without sleep compiling packages and creating new packages. Sincerely, I
> think that Parabola would not exist now if you had not worked hard all
> this time. If you decided to go out and colaborate with other distro or
> create a new one I will go with you because I like your way of thinking
> and doing.
>
> El 10/04/17 a las 18:31, Stig Roar Wangberg escribió:
>> ma., 10.04.2017 kl. 12.49 -0300, skrev Megver83:
>>> My answer will be simple: you have done a lot for Parabola and its
>>> community, you deserve more than being expulsed. The Parabola project
>>> depends on all its hackers, from the artists to the packagers.
>> +1

That is disturbing, but, that is not the thing that disturb me.

You are Human and by the way you can comit fault.

`But in that hundred of lines I do not read the part of your excuse to
fauno.`

For that, and the secret society you have create rejecting thus who
don't care of money from the choice and orientation of the project, that
is difficult to consider you as a good Human but a good manipulator.

You do a lot for the project, from technical to much more, but does that
mean it give right to you to decide for all and manipulate people?

As I told you, but you just want to see the point, share the building
kernel pack with a new incomer and get time to find your way in the
project would be welcome.

Kind regards

Aurélien DESBRIÈRES



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