[Dev] Proposals for Fiscal Sponsor Successor

Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic tct at ceata.org
Thu Apr 20 06:55:00 GMT 2017

On 20.04.2017 08:40, Quiliro wrote:
>> Ceata is considering extending the agreement with Parabola for
>> another year if all the devs that have created problems leave the
>> project.
> However advantageous the conditions are with Ceata, I would suggest,
> for the good of Ceata and of Parabola, not to continue with the
> agreement. The best would be to end it in good terms. The problems
> could come up again and again because bad feelings never will heal
> unless there is good will. And that is very difficult considering the
> past actions.

Is it possible that by "past actions" you refer to some your own people

1) undemocratically and privately asking for a tone of money from the
Parabola fund for hardware they want to use and keep for themselves even
after they leave the project,

2) dismissing the delegate's concerns about these big expenses unknown
to the community, by labeling them as "unnecessary drama",

3) sabotaging the relationship with the fiscal sponsor, by unjustly and
publicly accusing the fiscal sponsor of misusing the Parabola funds,

4) building a faction inside the project, recruiting fellow devs that
don't know both sides of the story,

5) vandalizing the wiki and repos, deleting free cultural works and free
software from the project, before they leave.

> More maturity is needed and less ping pong hitting each
> other between players. Until such maturity is reached, it will happen
> again and again. And I am not writting about one side only. A fight is
> not with only one fighter.

I guarantee you that if G4JC doesn't follow his comrade Emulatorman and
leaves the project, the same issues will happen with the next fiscal
sponsorship. And an agreement extension with Ceata is out of the table
if G4JC stays.

Until your own people won't start respecting agreements with 3rd parties
that have been approved by the community with consensus, Parabola will
continue to have problems raising and spending funds.

You're talking about maturity? Maturity means following protocol and
respecting agreements. I don't have the time to teach you that, although
I patiently tried. Nobody has time to teach you that!

On 20.04.2017 08:23, Quiliro wrote:
> I suggest the next fiscal sponsor is an organization that has someone
> with good human relationship skills in their team. That is basic for
> avoiding conflicts.

Please, show some maturity and start drafting the proposal to be sent to
FSIJ. Or to other sponsor candidate, for that matter.

> I don't think all of us have these types of skills. But where money is
> handled, I think it is a must because all of us are in need and it is a
> tacky issue in our subconcious. The money issue is always difficult,
> specially when it is not maturely dealt with. The best thing is to avoid
> it all together, in my opinion. But, if there must be a fiscal sponsor,
> it must be someone or an organization with someone that has great
> diplomacy besides the obvious honesty. 

Start doing actual work if you want things to run better in your project
and in the relantionship with 3rd parties. That's the mature thing to do.


P.S. I prefer being straight with people I care about. Diplomacy is just
another word for manipulation.

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