[Dev] *URGENT* Proposal to organise Parabola

lashdu lashdu at drtan.twilightparadox.com
Fri Dec 5 19:44:42 GMT 2014


Dnia 2014-12-05, pią o godzinie 19:45 +0100, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES pisze:
> mtjm at mtjm.eu (Michał Masłowski) writes:
> 
> >> this would be a problem, to me, if the donations don't
> >> come from the community, who ideally would pay to develop features
> >> useful for everyone, but from a company, who ultimately pays to develop
> >> features that are commercially useful to them.
> >
> > This highly reminds me of [0].
> >
> > [0] http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2014/12/03/conservancy-supporter.html
> >
> >> i think this list is a self-organized commitee and should stay that way,
> >> no need for bureaucratic management.
> >
> > +1; self-organized committee of both developers and users.  (While
> > scheduled IRC meetings might be useful.)
> >
> >> * accepting funding and donations would require to form a non-profit
> >>   organization?
> >>
> >> * if so where would it be located? we're all over the world
> >>
> >> * will be accept which currency/ies? or only cryptocoins?[0]
> >>
> >> * will be have a bank account?
> >
> > Or get a fiscal sponsor, leaving the same questions.
> >
> >> * or, will parabola hackers accept personal donations? if so, how will
> >>   be keep track of how much everyone is receiving and if the return in
> >>   development is fair?
> >
> > There is at least one person who says they would donate only if there
> > was a Parabola Project that shared the money between developers in a
> > fair way.
> >
> >> my fault, i'll fix it when you pay me!! >:)
> >>
> >> ↑ my third issue with donations...
> >
> > +1
> 
> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
> 
> Money is the seed of most of trouble.
> 
> What will prevent users in front ::
> 
> *pay me if you want me to fix it?*
> 
> -1
> 
> If people want to give, they could give material, mirror, server space
> ... time.
> 
> What happen suddenly that we *absolutly need* to change what have been
> be established on start of the project?
> 

What if we rised money only for infrastructure: servers, domain
registration, etc.?

I also believe that money can spoil people and damage well established
rules. Once there came to my mind that I could donate some money to
Parabola. It was in the situation when I couldn't help the project in
any other possible way. Maybe there is some wise way of handling money,
so it won't became the only one thing everybody cares.

And one more idea. The FSF has got special fundraiser for many projects;
you donate to specific project (GNUstep gets funding this way). Could we
apply? It would maybe resolve some legal issues we don't like to be
burden with.
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