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Em 09-05-2012 04:59, Michał Masłowski escreveu:
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<pre wrap="">For a long time our primary mail was Thunderbird, but a libre version
with free addons eliminating non-free addons, but thunderbird has a
issue; this program has non-free trademark licensing.
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The specific problem is that it disallows selling unmodified copies and
requires rebranding modified versions, the second part isn't a problem
(since modifications already require changing the program; other free
programs like TeX have a similar requirement), except when someone
modifies it to e.g. not recommend nonfree addons while not rebranding
it.
(Would call it one of available mail clients, haven't seen it named a
"primary mail".)
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<pre wrap="">Debian Icedove exists for two purposes; because of the trademark
issues, and in order to meet Debian quality standards, but this
program is not free because contains non-free addons and non-free
searchplugins.
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We don't call such programs nonfree. Addons are recommended, not
included; aren't searchplugins trivial files stating how to access an
external search engine (we don't run these, so they have different
problems than free or nonfree software)?
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<pre wrap="">So, Márcio Silva (coadde) and André Silva (emulatorman) began creating
a libre version of Icedove without non-free addons and non-free
searchplugins including the advantage of free trademark provided by
Icedove.
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Icedove is a trademark?
(This will probably make having a Thunderbird-like mail client on
mips64el easier.)
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Mtjm, thanks for the information, i improved the news message on
main site, i put it:<br>
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<p><i><tt>"We recently added the Debian Icedove mail client to the
[libre] repo (actually "icedove-libre"), and encourage
Thunderbird users to switch. For a long time our one of
available mail clients was Thunderbird-libre (a version with
free addons and free searchplugins) but the specific problem
is that it disallows selling unmodified copies and requires
rebranding modified versions.<br>
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Icedove is an e-mail client distributed by the Debian
project. It is based on Mozilla Thunderbird. With Icedove,
the Debian project aims to provide a version of the Mozilla
Thunderbird e-mail client which has not yet been kept in
synchronization with upstream development of Thunderbird as
originally planned. It removes the proprietary artwork and
plug-in repositories used in the official release by the
Mozilla Corporation, but this program has a freedom issue:
recommends non-free addons and non-free searchplugins.<br>
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So, Márcio Silva (coadde) and André Silva (emulatorman)
began creating a libre version of Icedove without non-free
addons and non-free searchplugins including the advantage
provided by Icedove, so that Parabola could continue to
distribute the software with modifications permitted,
without being bound by the use of trademark requirements
that the Mozilla Foundation had invoked.<br>
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Since today, Parabola GNU/Linux-libre has Icedove-Libre with
Language Packs included on [libre] repo.<br>
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Enjoy the Freedom!"<br>
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<p>If you found a other issue on here, please alert me about it,
and i will modify the message again ;)</p>
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