[Dev] New tier 1 mirror server The Netherlands

Easy Lee mail at easylee.nl
Tue Feb 23 08:58:31 GMT 2021

Hi Bill,

Thank you for your extensive response. I fully agree with everything said.

Reflecting on my request: It will not be a problem for me to share more information and become a trusted member in the long run. Setting up and sharing a multiple times per hour sync schedule is OK. A secondary way of contacting me (by phone or additional address) is no problem. I am a private person donating to the Arch(based) community by providing a mirror server. Not an organization or business.

With your permission I will continue syncing once an hour of rsync://repo.parabola.nu:875/repos/ for now and will follow everything happening including signing up for the future mirror mailing-list. If it's not OK to continue syncing because of the load, I will halt.

Would it be possible to provide my additional and private contact details to someone directly?



On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, at 9:25 AM, bill-auger wrote:
> if the task were only to add a new mirror, that is quite easy to
> do, but it is not a high priority -  the mirror network is
> healthier than ever now - in fact, it is becoming problematic to
> add new mirrors; because the number of mirrors has almost
> doubled in the past few years, and each new one adds load onto
> the repo server, which is already over-loaded - we have been
> working out plan to split the mirrors into tiers - that will
> take some time and effort to accomplish though
> that was not to say that we do not want any more mirrors - it is
> always good to grow the mirror network; but there is no urgency
> to that either - in fact, we hope that mirrors are dedicated for
> the long-term; so some initial delay is prudent - as a point of
> reference, the last two new mirrors did not get added to the
> mirrorlist until a month or two after they requested - it is not
> unreasonable, for example, to expect that someone may request to
> join the mirror network and then shut down a month later -
> patience is a virtue, as they say
> as this thread subject suggests though, this could be one of the
> tier 1 mirrors; and those entail significantly more
> responsibility, and so deserve more scrutiny - there are some
> logistics to work out first, in order to avoid adding more load
> onto the repo server - that is the reason why i did not respond
> immediately
> the first step is to create a new mailing list dedicated to
> mirrors - some of the current mirror operators have suggested
> one, so there could be a low-volume channel, for only important
> communication among the mirror operators, rather than expecting
> everyone to subscribe to the 'dev' list
> next, i have an email prepared to send out to all the mirrors
> operators, asking some to be on tier 1 and stick to a rigid and
> rapid sync schedule, (eg: 3-4 times per hour), and for the
> others to start synchronizing with one of the tier 1 mirrors,
> and also increasing their rate closer to once per hour - some of
> them sync only once or twice per day now, while others sync
> every 10 minutes, and yet others sync erratically - overall, it
> should be a nice improvement for user-experience, to normalize
> the sync rates across mirrors
> regarding this new mirror, some of requested information was not
> supplied - the wiki article requests that the introduction email
> should include the name of the responsible party or organization
> which operates the service, a secondary contact, and the precise
> sync schedule - those are currently not essential, because all
> mirrors are effectively tier 2 currently; but that information
> will be essential for tier 1 mirrors
> tier 1 mirrors will effectively be critical infrastructure; and
> tier 1 mirror operators are effectively trusted team members -
> not "trusted" as a matter of security (signatures accomplish
> that), but as a matter of reliability - a significant proportion
> of the mirror network will be dependent on their respective tier
> 1 mirrors; so there should be more than one possible way to
> contact the operators in case of problems - if we only have a
> single email address for an anonymous person, and especially
> with that email is handled by the same host as the mirror, that
> amounts to a single point of failure for a significant
> proportion of the mirror network - ideally, we would also like
> to have a GPG key for each tier 1 operator; and we do have one
> for all of the current candidates
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