[Dev] [libretools - Feature Request #2403] (info needed) [libremakepkg]: eradicate mksource() from abslibre
labs at parabola.nu
labs at parabola.nu
Fri Jul 26 22:11:21 GMT 2019
Issue #2403 has been reported by bill-auger.
Feature Request #2403: [libremakepkg]: eradicate mksource() from abslibre
* Author: bill-auger
* Status: info needed
* Priority: discussion
related to forum thread https://labs.parabola.nu/boards/18/topics/125
IIRC when discussing the 'ruby' package, we concluded that it was probably intended per the FSDG, to provide complete and pre-cleaned source-balls to the distro users; which entails the devs to keep some of the libre-fications tools private
the FSDG does not require support for versions of 'foo' that were not included in any distro release however; but OTOH, this PKGBUILD contains instructions for downloading known non-free software
on the third hand (the philosophical hand), the 'gist' of the four freedoms is not about possessing or sharing non-free software; but that the user is able to do with it as they see fit - if the only thing that one wishes to do with that software is to merely posses it or share it, then anything redistributable would satisfy the 'gist' of the four freedoms for that person
the simplest way to resolve this class of issue, is to add a note to the PKGBULID with sed above every instance of 'mksource()', asking the reader to ask a parabola dev to publish the intermediate source-ball, if they are building ahead of the current release; then to publish the missing source-ball for any enthusiastic user who asks for one - a better solution to this class of issue, would be for the PKGBUILD to explaining how to run mksource() and have the mksource() function create the source-ball with expected libre name in the sources() array - if that does not conflict with the FSDG - an even better solution to this class of issue, is to eliminate it by eradicating mksource() from abslibre somehow
this incident is not a peculiar though - it is currently systematic AFAIK; so i consulted the FSDG:
"A free system distribution must not steer users towards obtaining any nonfree information for practical use, or encourage them to do so. The system should have no repositories for nonfree software and no specific recipes for installation of particular nonfree programs."
there is another clause that might suggest that this use case is within the guidelines; although it is in the "Documentation" section
"In general, something that helps people who already use nonfree software to use the free software better with it is acceptable, but something that encourages users of the free software to install nonfree software is not."
libre-fications would seem to fit into that documentation exception - id say the key point is that such scripts do not install the program "for practical use" - the use-case in which the user is interested, is to download a non-free tarball, and to liberate it, without viewing or executing any of the files within it; for the sole purpose of using the cleaned sources in freedom - it would seems better to instruct people how to liberate non-free software rather than impeding their curiosity or ambition; though it may snag upon some FSDG caveat
* should consult the FSDG mailing list
* put these on the wiki as documentation, instead of in PKGBUILDs
* libretools could be made to download the file into memory instead of writing a hard copy
* hide all such scripts at the cost of impeding enthusiastic users who want to help
-- ^^ Type your reply above this line ^^ --
-- Please keep the 'Subject' as it is --
You have received this notification because you have either subscribed to it, or are involved in it.
To change your notification preferences, please click here: http://labs.parabola.nu/my/account
More information about the Dev