[Dev] [RFC] Deprecate Parabola Iceweasel in favor of Triquel Abrowser

Andreas Grapentin andreas at grapentin.org
Sat Apr 22 18:33:27 GMT 2017


How different are iceweasel and icecat? could we maybe drop the former
and only maintain the latter?

-A

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 05:41:48PM +0200, Nicolás A. Ortega wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:20:43AM -0400, Luke Shumaker wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Someone reported via parabolaweb that Iceweasel is out of date, so I
> > began to look in to how to update it (having been the original
> > packager of Iceweasel when it first came to Parabola; before handing
> > it off to Emulatorman).
> > 
> > When I first added Iceweasel, it was by mimicking ConnOS (our then
> > sister distro), and imported Debian's rebranded Firefox.
> > 
> >   (This had the added benefit that Debian applied portability patches
> >   to support architectures that Firefox upstream didn't support; this
> >   was very useful when we had MIPS support)
> > 
> > However, ConnOS no longer exists as an Arch derivative (it shut down
> > for a while, then came back as a Gentoo derivative), and Iceweasel no
> > longer exists in Debian; Debian now ships proper Firefox.  I hadn't
> > realized that about a year ago "Debian Iceweasel" became "Parabola
> > Iceweasel" and Emulatorman began maintaning the Iceweasel patches
> > outside of Debian.
> > 
> > Trisquel Abrowser is Trisquel's rebranded Firefox (and is distinct
> > from (the former?) Ubuntu Abrowser).  It is maintained by quidam, who
> > is also the maintainer of GNU IceCat.  We always had to maintain a set
> > of patches *on top of* Debian's patches, to address FSDG concerns; if
> > we import from Trisquel, that maintenance effort goes away.
> > 
> >   (I also expect this to take care of architecture-patching; Trisquel
> >   inheritys from Ubuntu which inherits from Debian; but it this isn't
> >   a sure thing, it is possible that we may have to still deal with
> >   pathing for ARM.)
> > 
> > I think that it makes sense to cooperate with Trisquel, rather than
> > duplicate the effort.
> > 
> > As for having both Abrowser and IceCat; Abrowser tracks the latest
> > Firefox release, IceCat tracks Firefox-ESR (Extended Support Release).
> > 
> 
> As an IceWeasel user my question is, how easy would the migration be? I
> realize that lots of Parabola users have a ton of addons and settings
> for IceWeasel and so on. Also, how would this affect the
> `iceweasel-hardened' package? I'm pretty sure that it'll be easily
> transferable, but I have little knowledge of Abrowser.
> 
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