[Dev] Some doubts about Parabola's donations

aurelien aurelien at hackers.camp
Thu Apr 6 06:18:13 GMT 2017

Crazytoon <crazytoon at riseup.net> writes:

> El 05/04/17 a las 20:31, Stig Roar Wangberg escribió:
>> on., 05.04.2017 kl. 23.27 +0000, skrev coadde:
>>> On 04/05/2017 09:39 PM, Luke wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2017 04:51 PM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote:
>>>>>> Our agreement has been signed on 24 September 2015 for a term
>>>>>> of 1 (one)
>>>>>> year and it has been automatically renewed on 24 September
>>>>>> 2016. I
>>>>>> remind everyone that Ceata doesn't charge Parabola any fee for
>>>>>> handling
>>>>>> its donations and expenses.
>>>>>> Any other free software nonprofit offering fiscal sponsorship
>>>>>> (such as
>>>>>> FSF and SF Conservancy) charges the projects under their
>>>>>> umbrella with a
>>>>>> standard fee of 10% of income. That is around €250 EUR for the
>>>>>> income
>>>>>> Parabola has received so far.
>>>>>> Considering that there is a number of Parabola hackers/donors
>>>>>> unsatisfied with Ceata's fiscal sponsorship, it is our decision
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> terminate the current agreement. Please consider this the
>>>>>> "sixty (60)
>>>>>> days written notice" I send you on behalf of Ceata, as per §7.
>>>> I just wanted to take a moment to say that while questions were
>>>> being
>>>> asked by members of our community, no one has made the public the
>>>> decision to "terminate".
>>>> However, as Ceata has already made this decision for us (which is
>>>> allowed per §7), it will be unlikely to find a replacement within
>>>> 60 days.
>>>> As for current consensus:
>>>> I think we should immediately remove donation links from the
>>>> website to
>>>> avoid further loss/confusion of Parabola donations until this
>>>> matter is
>>>> resolved.
>>> +1
>> +1
> +1


I would like to bring you back in time when I said that I am against the
money. Parabola was at first a mate adventure and continue to be one.

I have no doubt about fauno and would be really pleased that you the
people of that community get time to think of some important points:

This project offer us many things from personnal being to knowledge.

Nowadays thanks GNU and thanks Parabola because I have a job and that
job comes from the knowledge all people of GNU shared with me and offer
me the chance of practicing.

Afaik from the day money comes here, it change many things from the
share of practicing essential part of the project to the reason why
people act.

Speaking of people act, the first part of that mail comes from nowhere
so that mean a private exchange around a public situation.

The dark corner of the money are just like this:

"Dark corners are basically fractal—no matter how much you illuminate,
there’s always a smaller but darker one."   -— Brian Kernighan

Money must be kicked out from that place and never comes back.

Yes the project need money for servers and many other things, but get
time to understand that we load and run it during many years without
donation rules, just on the point of discussion.

Parabola is a great school art works and fauno his pillar.

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