[Dev] [libreplanet-discuss] EOMA68 and freedom in digital technology
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
lkcl at lkcl.net
Wed Sep 14 00:07:35 GMT 2016
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Josh Branning <lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/09/16 20:38, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>> See what Olimex has been doing for years then.
>> you're aware that olimex operates as a criminal cartel, from shipping
>> GPL-violating A10 bootloaders and kernels provided by Allwinner, back
>> around 2011/2012? you're also aware that with the sole exception of
>> the olimex laptop's PCBs the only thing that they provide is
>> auto-generated PDFs *from* the schematics source code... not the
>> actual schematics and certainly not the PCB design files?
> I think this is a little unfair to Olimex and is at least partially untrue.
> For instance, schematics and pcb files CAN be found, for most of their
> boards. 
yes - you're catching up (three people kindly pointed this out)
> Unlike your boards, which give a 404 forbidden message when trying to access
> the server.  Hopefully this is something you can correct.
it has. explained also in other posts since you replied to this.
> Though I can see that the advantage over the Olimex boards is that you ship
> with a libre operating system from the start.
which gives you a clear message: i will *not* compromise on software
freedom for the purposes of profit maximisation. actually it's more
specific than that: i will NOT put designs into people's hands when i
know that they will become distressed as a result (due to viruses
emptying their bank accounts, or being forced to spend money on
throwing away perfectly good hardware due to software driver
incompatibility and so on).
> In regards to the A64 (used in the Olimex laptop), /mainline/ u-boot, from
> the sunxi.org wiki :
u-boot is not the early bootloader. the early bootloader is proprietary.
> ' Basic support for the A64 SoC has been been merged into 2016.05-rc1.
> This covers UART, MMC and required GPIOs and clocks, but no Ethernet or USB
> yet. Also as there is no information on the DRAM controller so far, the SPL
> support is not enabled, so boot0 is required at the moment to get U-Boot
... and is that early bootloader, boot0, proprietary or not, yes or no?
> Also, I think that the Olimex laptop has not yet been released, so that
> gives developers time to build more support, before they start selling.
meanwhile, the opportunity has been totally lost, to put a financial
"foot down" (just as with NextThingCo did with Allwinner over the R8)
i.e. to say "no, allwinner, we will *not* place an order for 50,000
units with you *UNTIL* you give us the full source code including the
full source code of the early bootloader, boot0"
now the sunxi community is expected to pick up the pieces - unpaid -
and to clean up allwinner's mess. oh, but worse than that, the team
behind the Allwinner A64 think it's *OKAY* to consider boot0 to be
just because pine64 and olimex took your money instead of setting
software freedom as a first priority.
tell me: how is that okay? if you *really think* it is okay, explain how.
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