From nobody at parabola.nu Mon Feb 1 22:02:39 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 22:02:39 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [package-query] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160201220239.611.38213@parabola.nu> biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * package-query 1.5-2 [pcr] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/i686/package-query/ * package-query 1.5-2 [pcr] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/x86_64/package-query/ The user provided the following additional text: error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: package-query: requires pacman<4.3 From nobody at parabola.nu Tue Feb 2 09:47:59 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 09:47:59 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [linux-libre] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160202094759.520.10981@parabola.nu> jackdon at ruggedinbox.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * linux-libre 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre/ * linux-libre 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre/ * linux-libre 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre/ * linux-libre-docs 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-docs/ * linux-libre-docs 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-docs/ * linux-libre-docs 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-docs/ * linux-libre-headers 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-headers/ * linux-libre-headers 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-headers/ * linux-libre-headers 4.3.4_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-headers/ The user provided the following additional text: New version upstream https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.3.5 From nobody at parabola.nu Tue Feb 2 09:49:29 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 09:49:29 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre-Testing package [linux-libre] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160202094929.520.40808@parabola.nu> jackdon at ruggedinbox.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: The user provided the following additional text: New version upstream https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.4.1 Can you build for x86_64,i686 arches please ? From nobody at parabola.nu Tue Feb 2 09:50:24 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 09:50:24 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [linux-libre-lts] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160202095024.610.36094@parabola.nu> jackdon at ruggedinbox.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * linux-libre-lts 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-lts/ * linux-libre-lts 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-lts/ * linux-libre-lts 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-lts/ * linux-libre-lts-docs 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-lts-docs/ * linux-libre-lts-docs 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-lts-docs/ * linux-libre-lts-docs 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-lts-docs/ * linux-libre-lts-headers 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-lts-headers/ * linux-libre-lts-headers 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-lts-headers/ * linux-libre-lts-headers 4.1.16_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-lts-headers/ The user provided the following additional text: New version upstream https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.1.17 From emulatorman at riseup.net Wed Feb 3 00:08:04 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 21:08:04 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> Message-ID: <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> On 02/02/2016 07:04 PM, Paulo Henrique Santana wrote: > ----- Mensagem original ----- >> De: "lxoliva" > >> Oi, Paulo, > > Ol? Oliva e Andr?. > >> Andr? ? mantenedor do Par?bola GNU/Linux-libre. ? brasileiro, mas vive >> entre Uruguai e Argentina. Ele planeja ir ao FISL este ano. > > Opa, legal. Ol? Paulo, no m?s de dezembro a gente fez um consenso na nossa comunidade com o interesse de que Parabola possa participar no FISL17 [0][1]. Ent?o, gostaria de ir fazendo o planejamento da nossa participa??o pelo fato que isto j? ficou aprovado pela comunidade da nossa distribui??o. >> Talvez eles consigam patroc?nio para um estande (precisariam saber os >> valores, voc? sabe informar?), ou precisamos reservar um espa?o pra eles >> na ?rea de comunidades. > > Estou copiando o J?nior que pode nos ajudar nessa parte do valor do stande. Seria legal saber o valor do patroc?nio para um stande, assim desse jeito poderia abrir um consenso oferecendo esta ideia pra nossa comunidade, t? copiando este correio pra nossa lista de desenvolvedores do Parabola, pra eles poder ir acompanhando tamb?m todo este procedimento... >> Ele quer apresentar uma palestra. Sugiro encaixar sua palestra como de >> convidado e dar algum destaque, j? que n?o ? sempre que temos >> mantenedores de distros 100% Livres no FISL ;-) > > Com certeza! > Ainda n?o estamos com acesso ao sistema, mas quando for liberado, a gente come?a a fazer a parte dos preenchimentos das informa??es. Obrigado, quando come?ar os preenchimentos das informa??es me avise pra poder dar a confirma??o da participa??o do Parabola na nossa comunidade atrav?s do nosso site e da lista de correios, e assim j? come?amos a comprar as passagens e arranjar algum hotel. Falando de hotel, voc? conhece algum lugar que seja barato e que aceite cart?o de credito? Por enquanto eu achei legal e barato o Lido Hotel [2], voc? que acha? fica perto do FISL? >> Talvez poder?amos tamb?m armar um encontro comunit?rio de usu?rios de >> GNU/Linux-libre, incluindo n?o s? Par?bola mas outras distros 100% >> Livres que estejam representadas por l?. >> >> Que lhe parece? > > Muito legal. > Mandei um email pro Rub?n do Trisquel mas ele ainda n?o respondeu. Ano passado ele quase veio, mas n?o deu certo por pouco. Vamos ver se esse ano ele vem tamb?m. Isto seria muito legal, tomara que d? tudo certo! [0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2015-December/003592.html [1]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2016-January/003723.html [2]:http://www.lidohotel.com.br/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From nobody at parabola.nu Thu Feb 4 22:34:21 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:34:21 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [libretools] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160204223421.520.61693@parabola.nu> bugmenot at bugmenot.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * gitget 20150607-7 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/gitget/ * libregit 20131027-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/libregit/ * librelib 20150607-7 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/librelib/ * libretools 20150607-7 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/libretools/ * libretools-mips64el 20150526-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/libretools-mips64el/ * xbs 20150607-7 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/xbs/ The user provided the following additional text: error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: libretools: requires pacman<4.3.0 From emulatorman at riseup.net Thu Feb 4 22:37:46 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 19:37:46 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Re=3A_Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FIS?= =?utf-8?q?L?= In-Reply-To: <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> References: <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> Message-ID: <56B3D2BA.3050308@riseup.net> fyi -- -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Par?bola GNU/Linux-libre no FISL Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 11:07:02 -0200 (BRST) From: Paulo Henrique Santana To: Andr? Silva , Junior Goergen , lxoliva Ol?, ----- Mensagem original ----- > De: "Andr? Silva" > Ol? Paulo, no m?s de dezembro a gente fez um consenso na nossa > comunidade com o interesse de que Parabola possa participar no FISL17 > [0][1]. Ent?o, gostaria de ir fazendo o planejamento da nossa > participa??o pelo fato que isto j? ficou aprovado pela comunidade da > nossa distribui??o. Que bom, esperamos a comunidade Par?bola no FISL17 :-) > Seria legal saber o valor do patroc?nio para um stande, assim desse > jeito poderia abrir um consenso oferecendo esta ideia pra nossa > comunidade, t? copiando este correio pra nossa lista de desenvolvedores > do Parabola, pra eles poder ir acompanhando tamb?m todo este procedimento... Os valores s?o os seguintes: 6 m2- R$ 6.000,00 15 m2 - R$ 15.000,00 20 m2 - R$ 20.000,00 25 m2 - R$ 25.000,00 Na semana que vem teremos um material gr?fico explicando melhor todas as formas de patroc?nios. > Obrigado, quando come?ar os preenchimentos das informa??es me avise pra > poder dar a confirma??o da participa??o do Parabola na nossa comunidade > atrav?s do nosso site e da lista de correios, e assim j? come?amos a > comprar as passagens e arranjar algum hotel. Falando de hotel, voc? > conhece algum lugar que seja barato e que aceite cart?o de credito? Por > enquanto eu achei legal e barato o Lido Hotel [2], voc? que acha? fica > perto do FISL? N?o moro em Porto Alegre, por isso n?o conhe?o o hotel pessoalmente. Mas pelo mapa, ele fica no centro, que ? um pouco longe da PUC. A PUC fica um pouco afastada da regi?o central, mas ? f?cil de chegar l? de ?nibus. Abra?os, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre Fone: +55 (41) 9198-1897 Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Fri Feb 5 03:21:07 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 00:21:07 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> Message-ID: <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> On 02/04/2016 10:07 AM, Paulo Henrique Santana wrote: > Que bom, esperamos a comunidade Par?bola no FISL17 :-) :) > Os valores s?o os seguintes: > 6 m2- R$ 6.000,00 > 15 m2 - R$ 15.000,00 > 20 m2 - R$ 20.000,00 > 25 m2 - R$ 25.000,00 > > Na semana que vem teremos um material gr?fico explicando melhor todas as formas de patroc?nios. Obrigado pela informa??o pois esse material vai ser muito importante pra comunidade dar uma melhor conferida. Por outro lado e enquanto a gente pensar nesse assunto, poder?amos j? ir reservando o nosso espa?o na ?rea de comunidades? Pelo menos pra ir adiantando caso a comunidade n?o quiser pagar o valor do patroc?nio, e pelo menos ter a garantia de ter o espa?o pra a gente colocar o nosso material (posters, stickers, v?deos, etc) do Parabola no FISL. > N?o moro em Porto Alegre, por isso n?o conhe?o o hotel pessoalmente. > Mas pelo mapa, ele fica no centro, que ? um pouco longe da PUC. ok blz, pelo menos ? bom saber que esse hotel fica um pouco longe, assim j? vou ir procurando outros hot?is que estejam perto da PUC e ver os custos de hospedagem. Caso os custos sejam muito elevados, ai eu fico com o Lido Hotel, mesmo que seja longe pois me viro viajando em ?nibus :P > A PUC fica um pouco afastada da regi?o central, mas ? f?cil de chegar l? de ?nibus. Tenho que dar uma pesquisada nesse negocio do ?nibus, pois terei que saber qual deles serve pra ir da Rodovi?ria at? o hotel e do hotel at? a PUC, pelo menos pra ter uma maior flexibilidade no percurso dos dias que vou estar l? :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fauno at endefensadelsl.org Sat Feb 6 12:07:41 2016 From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 09:07:41 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> Message-ID: <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Andr? Silva writes: > On 02/04/2016 10:07 AM, Paulo Henrique Santana wrote: >> Que bom, esperamos a comunidade Par?bola no FISL17 :-) > > :) > >> Os valores s?o os seguintes: >> 6 m2- R$ 6.000,00 >> 15 m2 - R$ 15.000,00 >> 20 m2 - R$ 20.000,00 >> 25 m2 - R$ 25.000,00 6k BRL are 1.3k EUR D: i didn't get if that's just an optional sponsorship -- .o?) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 584 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Sat Feb 6 12:38:53 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 09:38:53 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Message-ID: <56B5E95D.8040708@riseup.net> On 02/06/2016 09:07 AM, fauno wrote: > Andr? Silva writes: > >> On 02/04/2016 10:07 AM, Paulo Henrique Santana wrote: >>> Que bom, esperamos a comunidade Par?bola no FISL17 :-) >> >> :) >> >>> Os valores s?o os seguintes: >>> 6 m2- R$ 6.000,00 >>> 15 m2 - R$ 15.000,00 >>> 20 m2 - R$ 20.000,00 >>> 25 m2 - R$ 25.000,00 > > 6k BRL are 1.3k EUR D: > > i didn't get if that's just an optional sponsorship It's an optional sponsorship and since it's very expensive for us, it doesn't make sense to open a consensus, what do you think? Otherwise, i asked him about if we could begin reserving our space in community area instead. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fauno at endefensadelsl.org Sat Feb 6 12:47:53 2016 From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 09:47:53 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <56B5E95D.8040708@riseup.net> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B5E95D.8040708@riseup.net> Message-ID: <87d1sa9f9i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Andr? Silva writes: > It's an optional sponsorship and since it's very expensive for us, it > doesn't make sense to open a consensus, what do you think? > Otherwise, i asked him about if we could begin reserving our space in > community area instead. i think it's way too expensive given it's more money than we have. we should have asked the other way around, if fisl could sponsor us! are you going to print posters and stickers? maybe you can ask for a contribution over them to cover your expenses too. or some usb sticks. but i don't know brazilian people, here in argentina most people would want to take them gratis :P -- D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 584 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Sat Feb 6 16:31:51 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:31:51 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <87d1sa9f9i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B5E95D.8040708@riseup.net> <87d1sa9f9i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Message-ID: <56B61FF7.6050708@riseup.net> On 02/06/2016 09:47 AM, fauno wrote: > i think it's way too expensive given it's more money than we have. we > should have asked the other way around, if fisl could sponsor us! They'll fit our conference as guest to give some prominence for us, since they haven't 100% libre distro maintainers at FISL everytime. If you want, i could ask them to sponsor us too... > are you going to print posters and stickers? maybe you can ask for a > contribution over them to cover your expenses too. or some usb sticks. > but i don't know brazilian people, here in argentina most people would > want to take them gratis :P My printer is damaged, then i have plans to looking for some printings to ask for an estimate to make pamphlets, self adhesive stickers, also a big poster (eg. Parabola logo and/or our GNU and Bola cat mascots) to put in our stand/conference for better presentation. If it's cheap, we could use our donations for it and pay with Ceata's credit card, however it should be discussed under a consensus thought. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tct at ceata.org Sat Feb 6 18:13:58 2016 From: tct at ceata.org (Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:13:58 +0200 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <56B61FF7.6050708@riseup.net> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B5E95D.8040708@riseup.net> <87d1sa9f9i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B61FF7.6050708@riseup.net> Message-ID: <56B637E6.3090705@ceata.org> On 06.02.2016 18:31, Andr? Silva wrote: > My printer is damaged, then i have plans to looking for some printings > to ask for an estimate to make pamphlets, self adhesive stickers, also a > big poster (eg. Parabola logo and/or our GNU and Bola cat mascots) to > put in our stand/conference for better presentation. Professional print shops offer better quality anyway. > If it's cheap, we could use our donations for it and pay with Ceata's > credit card, however it should be discussed under a consensus thought. If the shop has an online order form, you can create the order and pass me a temporary password for the account in order to complete the order by paying with the credit card. Thanks, -- Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic | Pre?edinte, Funda?ia Ceata GPG: 900CECE2 | Tel: +40-761-810-100 Sus?ii libertatea artelor ?i tehnologiilor? ?nscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/inscrieri From tct at ceata.org Sun Feb 7 21:43:03 2016 From: tct at ceata.org (Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 23:43:03 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Thankful for the BeagleBone Black donation! In-Reply-To: <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> References: <5685B72C.4060707@riseup.net> <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> Message-ID: <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> Hi, On 07.01.2016 16:00, coadde wrote: > happy hacking! Any progress on the GRUB porting in the past month? Which is the code repository and how can people help coadde with the development? Is anyone else working on having full ARM v7 support in Parabola? Is there a documentation page for installing Parabola on an ARM v7 board such as the BBB? Is it Arch (still) needed for the installation? Thanks, -- Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic | Pre?edinte, Funda?ia Ceata GPG: 900CECE2 | Tel: +40-761-810-100 Sus?ii libertatea artelor ?i tehnologiilor? ?nscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/inscrieri From isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info Mon Feb 8 01:35:24 2016 From: isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info (Isaac David) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 19:35:24 -0600 Subject: [Dev] Thankful for the BeagleBone Black donation! In-Reply-To: <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> References: <5685B72C.4060707@riseup.net> <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> Message-ID: <1454895324.4913.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> Le dim. 7 f?vr. 2016 ? 15:43, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic a ?crit : > > Any progress on the GRUB porting in the past month? Which is the code > repository and how can people help coadde with the development? > > Is anyone else working on having full ARM v7 support in Parabola? > > Is there a documentation page for installing Parabola on an ARM v7 > board > such as the BBB? Is it Arch (still) needed for the installation? > > Thanks, > -- > Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic | Pre?edinte, Funda?ia Ceata > GPG: 900CECE2 | Tel: +40-761-810-100 > > Sus?ii libertatea artelor ?i tehnologiilor? > ?nscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/inscrieri > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Tiberiu, thanks for your inquiry. Earlier in January Marcio (coadde), Andre (Emulatorman) and I followed some debugging suggestions for GRUB handed over by GNUtoo on irc; and independently, coadde and I chased down the problem to the final function call tasked with loading the kernel. We blame wrong addresses for it. I personally stopped working on it after trying out some address combinations with Emulatorman; it seems that some deeper understanding of the platform is needed. This is why coadde opened a bug report at Savannah,[1] but no reply has come from the GRUB guys since Jan 21. As with all other Parabola packages, development occurs at the abslibre git repo; more specifically in our single grub package.[2] A second grub package called grub-git with an obvious difference was added per GRUB developer's request. Regarding the overall state of the Parabola port to ARMv7 I can say it's in good shape and usable despite the pause-giving impression... such as [core], [extra] and [community] packages not showing on the website. (Some proofreading work is needed here to make sure ArchARM custom packages aren't introducing nonfree dependencies.[3] Emulatorman has already added ArchARM kernels to the blacklist). Although the [nonprism] and [pcr] repos haven't been ported yet, some of us work to keep an almost complete [libre] up-to-date. Emulatorman does a fantastic job maintaining the kernels across all architectures, and I port the not-so-trivial missing [libre] PKGBUILDs one at a time. My current focus is on kodi, replicating my success with iceweasel of which a preview is available on [libre-testing], and doing the same for icecat. I counted only 8 packages missing plus a few more which are x86-specific. The rest is provided by ArchARM as I mentioned. We do have documentation for fresh-installing Parabola on ARM,[4] as well as uboot packages for a variety of boards. Avoiding Arch should be perfectly possible. However the heterogeneity of the ARM world makes it difficult to write down detailed instructions for flashing arbitrary devices. (The uboot+GRUB effort is geared towards making the bootloader situation a little less cumbersome by reducing the number of uboot packages to one per board instead of one per board+kernel combination). At this moment the installation guide expects the user to know at least how to flash the installation image to a bootable medium of his/her choice and flash the appropriate Parabola uboot package to the device in question. Really easy stuff but platform-specific nonetheless. Improvements and extensions to our guide are appreciated. We also need somebody with wiki permissions greater than mine to make these ARM guides more discoverable from the main page.[5] [1]: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?46890 [2]: https://projects.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/log/libre/grub [3]: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs [4]: https://wiki.parabola.nu/Category:ARM [5]: https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/881 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWt/CmAAoJEDNGbhLse6lDTkAP/AudfFKFnQxmPFlWnW5I1pnG efPhb1UEY37WEJ06NsNd2WQgUqalzgUzpk9jWg3sBaFsZ+UpGiBV3Jt8CJKfXnHK lKEviID9HKGOZhWyVnv34/0y0CIUHGJAshn/vqJ4Igy3Hu7XMqR4ALwUPrVjvDwD KmlZ/0C2eQ4qfuMXA5yMxo8/MY4EyQZS6NYuQnB1cPkOUpog9MFYNoa53D1t12Rh b9fQTbBJMhbeXkqzWaIlwabOdB/gB4dfjBicTJ57WYssr+wV8wLsGKWK90/rSECz lRKlWLhYjCBxHj/UnzHZ2oLoYGAaEVik29gApKvTKRf6z5q+NE6Qr9ocAaA8Ow+G nMrRim82AYA1fvGBzzhnggPWCxh7i4noSDmOiFBh05rxB7Zh+dKCJR21Xi/cNfli 9ods+U/JxzbIz4VD1jFa/c6jfXsFCtEHBYyiaPlF7cx1gtcM2Zx3yUZjszG9V4lp Vfo4JkfbDdXxjm2g+BE7J9cSEzswcF24fyFYZV2a09EQE+8DIOrw4lgqBeqzgurM eG00Kh+gOSgDzA9q3AZE+hRAL+g1C6SSWWKkZUUm8nv1d9X0ajiAwnDXKyS/V3vn laVZt8z3FDkWWAEDxohyxzu1PPFJ6GXxKUP4slFlEXcTES/EgP3gcbRHscvsb9+K fUHvUKMwioLgVHsC94th =Mot3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fauno at endefensadelsl.org Mon Feb 8 01:53:31 2016 From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 22:53:31 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Thankful for the BeagleBone Black donation! In-Reply-To: <1454895324.4913.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> References: <5685B72C.4060707@riseup.net> <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> <1454895324.4913.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> Message-ID: <87si147ysk.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Isaac David writes: [snip] great work! one doesn't notice when not following closely, that's something i regret from having worked in the mips64el port :( are you documenting this process somewhere? please try to do that, even when they're just field notes or just rants > We also need somebody with wiki permissions greater than mine to make > these ARM guides more discoverable from the main page.[5] or you could ask for the permissions :P what's your current username? (bikeshedding: we need integration for hackers account between all our services) -- http://utopia.partidopirata.com.ar/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it Arch (still) needed for the installation? > > Thanks, > I installed on a A10-olinuxino-lime successfully, but I used an arch-linux img to start with and migrated according to the wiki. I only hit two problems along the way, and considering how recent the port is, it was really rather pain free. The first problem I had was the link to the parabola-mirrorlist or parabola-keyring (I forget which) wasn't recent enough. It looks as if this has now been fixed on the wiki. The second problem was upon installing the more recent mirror-list or parabola-keyring, or by some other way, the architecture got set back to auto in pacman.conf. I checked the arch linux armv7h img, and in the image, it is set to armv7h, so it must have got switched somehow. I asked on IRC and got help by a friendly dev (can't remember whom) and they guided me through the troubleshooting process, they also updated the wiki to give the solution to this second problem. Most helpful. I couldn't say if arch arm was needed, the reason why I didn't generate my own image to start off with, is because the only laptop I have access to here at the moment is running Trisquel, and AFAIK a parabola computer is required to create the images. I'm not a listed parabola developer but I might be able to access an x86 parabola machine soon, and I have a second a10-olinuxino-lime, so perhaps I could run the image generation tests (as per the wiki) with that? I am half surprised how well things went actually, considering none of yous lot own the same device. uboot*-linux-libre worked as expected. And the kernel even had the tinylcd drivers I wanted to run a hdmi screen with (they're not yet in the sunxi kernel). All in all I am very pleased with what's been done so far. Thanks for all your hard work and efforts, it's much appreciated, Josh From emulatorman at riseup.net Mon Feb 8 09:34:24 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 06:34:24 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FISL?= In-Reply-To: <56B637E6.3090705@ceata.org> References: <2053807813.1804.1454450677032.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B144E4.6000500@riseup.net> <840016677.16690.1454591222919.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> <56B41523.9020900@riseup.net> <87io229h4i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B5E95D.8040708@riseup.net> <87d1sa9f9i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B61FF7.6050708@riseup.net> <56B637E6.3090705@ceata.org> Message-ID: <56B86120.1010706@riseup.net> On 02/06/2016 03:13 PM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: > Professional print shops offer better quality anyway. > > If the shop has an online order form, you can create the order and pass > me a temporary password for the account in order to complete the order > by paying with the credit card. ok, thanks for let me know. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <87si147ysk.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> References: <5685B72C.4060707@riseup.net> <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> <1454895324.4913.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> <87si147ysk.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Message-ID: <56B87556.2030608@riseup.net> On 02/07/2016 10:53 PM, fauno wrote: >> We also need somebody with wiki permissions greater than mine to make >> these ARM guides more discoverable from the main page.[5] > > or you could ask for the permissions :P > > what's your current username? > > (bikeshedding: we need integration for hackers account between all our > services) I added admin privileges for ovruni and isacdaavid now, check if you can edit special pages as Donations [0] or Get_Parabola [1] [0]:https://wiki.parabola.nu/Donations [1]:https://wiki.parabola.nu/Get_Parabola -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info Mon Feb 8 19:01:09 2016 From: isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info (Isaac David) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:01:09 -0600 Subject: [Dev] Thankful for the BeagleBone Black donation! In-Reply-To: <56B87556.2030608@riseup.net> References: <5685B72C.4060707@riseup.net> <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> <1454895324.4913.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> <87si147ysk.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B87556.2030608@riseup.net> Message-ID: <1454958069.1075.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 fauno, Emulatorman: I can edit them now. Thanks. Josh Branning: >AFAIK a parabola computer is required to create the images. That's right. The ARM installation process would be a bit simpler if we released an armv7h rootfs tarball once in a while; like every time the x86 ISO is updated. I'm happy to hear that you could successfully install Parabola on an A10-olinuxino. So far I had only seen our port being used on TI processors, and AFAIK Olinuxino devices aren't completely useless with free software, so it's in the best of our interests to support them. Do you know how different the sunxi kernel is from mainline? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWuOXKAAoJEDNGbhLse6lDwGUP/iJsoRrXRp8CQhCzFn4Z3e/G J30xic2xenkaP2BchePFCKVl8JFVca7J6bnt7qwpQitfd4QC+Ob7qDp+qJNdKBC8 MGTSEUwR0hug0vsRKTAKn4gsXKh8fDmc1Nm7xiC4BaQ91x/0QOOyjI/vv7NuUoic k0XX1t8ZDjJje8LAM+aPY7bqAoQqcfXUlyH79c5oG2btpCQOIQC1ByreOIw19Qyl erOzNnRhLfgrMGEP/GxB31+IF/vILZ9lZRe4r9yjGkT1f4IH62AoXmwRzvcRoP1f TWuY8kA3yxspZ65tPRrCDaD01XvAJ3hLmkZdBBXVYkfjTgg4qzHGkk2Gnq43TN5e x+Z+vjxzyJ0SIOEZysoTwPKy0KwBsuimbBAB5T/FueOiNJFjKECjg2Xq5ZT4e9cr /NflyBp8zXsCzv9+8ajEsXhKnw5EH8j8pmm1h4ZZHUGicJT3MFQ6WM+FiTg9t4Pz MJH3TjuX5iv4/sAyM4UDLaB8Snn55FxcmthrynrZRvIffn74Y06M91NXUdFQPEna seMJvLvECQMjKSMXTyYoknGP+yV6iC8VQK+BozsQwFXf8+i71akgRvh7uvYDk+Rd /vRPoIfSK8ShkfWZf+Y4i+vK9H2JVbX+PsNZ7+Y+iTovhQjoErvQ5FWHmgYMDrCT dT54iEBTJSpzI1F+de+j =HzmF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 19:16:59 2016 From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 19:16:59 +0000 Subject: [Dev] Thankful for the BeagleBone Black donation! In-Reply-To: <1454958069.1075.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> References: <5685B72C.4060707@riseup.net> <568E6F6C.9060906@riseup.net> <56B7BA67.2070902@ceata.org> <1454895324.4913.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> <87si147ysk.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56B87556.2030608@riseup.net> <1454958069.1075.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> Message-ID: <56B8E9AA.7060705@gmail.com> On 08/02/16 19:01, Isaac David wrote: > Do you know how different the sunxi kernel is from mainline? Not really, apart from the tinylcd drivers situation. Other hdmi screens also worked ok on libre-mainline as expected (presumably its using the framebuffer), but I haven't yet tested hdmi sound, which I know worked on the sunxi kernel. They do seem to be getting closer and closer according to the sunxi wiki; https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort Josh From g4jc at openmailbox.org Mon Feb 8 22:15:02 2016 From: g4jc at openmailbox.org (Luke) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Dev] New Mirror in CA, USA Message-ID: <56B91366.80509@openmailbox.org> Hello! I recently discovered a good server deal and grabbed it. I haven't setup HTTPS properly yet, so for the time being it's HTTP. This may be good anyway since we can use the HTTP as a webseed for torrents. (Torrents do not currently accept HTTPS webseeds, making my other repo useless for that purpose). # Location: Los Angeles, CA # Responsible: 4096R/3EAE8697 g4jc # Work hours: 24*7 Server = http://server2.goodgnus.com.ar/$repo/os/$arch While we're at it, let's update the mirror list to reflect my current GPG/E-mail combination: # Location: Flevoland, Netherlands # Responsible: 4096R/3EAE8697 g4jc # Work hours: 24*7 # HTTPS cert SHA1 DE:EC:EC:53:95:91:00:FA:72:C7:E1:75:27:BA:C7:AE:D2:90:D1:22 #Server = https://parabola.goodgnus.com.ar/$repo/os/$arch We should also remove alfplayer and fryxell mirrors, they've been down for months and I got no response from them. Thanks. Luke -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From a technical standpoint, the Makefiles is the most interesting. I wrote an "automake-like" system for GNU make that gives us a lot for "free". Easy non-recursive make, `dist` support, all of the standard `clean` targets. So that means that I'm actually producing distribution tarballs now, instead of using snapshots from cgit. -- Happy hacking, ~ Luke Shumaker From aurelien at hackers.camp Tue Feb 9 06:23:03 2016 From: aurelien at hackers.camp (aurelien) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:23:03 +0100 Subject: [Dev] libretools 20160208 release announcement In-Reply-To: <87r3gmajzd.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> (Luke Shumaker's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:57:26 -0500") References: <87r3gmajzd.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87a8nao114.fsf@hackers.camp> Luke Shumaker writes: > I just released libretools 20160208 to [libre], and pushed the source tarball > to . > > It's a pretty boring release, change-wise; it's mostly to work with > the new version of pacman. > > Changes from 20150607 to 20160208: > * libremakepkg: Work with pacman 5.0 > * librefetch: Work with pacman 5.0 > * xbs-abslibre: Bug fixes > * Documentation: > * The libreblacklist manpage said libremessages in some places > * Added librexgettext(1) manpage > * $(bindir)/libre* and $(pkglibexecdir)/*.sh are no longer the same > file. The one in bin sources the one in lib. This shouldn't > affect anybody. > * The Makefiles have been almost entirely rewritten. > > From a technical standpoint, the Makefiles is the most interesting. I > wrote an "automake-like" system for GNU make that gives us a lot for > "free". Easy non-recursive make, `dist` support, all of the standard > `clean` targets. So that means that I'm actually producing > distribution tarballs now, instead of using snapshots from cgit. Thanks Luke for the job you done 44 files changed, 1261 insertions(+), 668 deletions(-) Not easy from what I have tried to understand! -- Aur?lien DESBRI?RES -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The one in bin sources the one in lib. This shouldn't >> affect anybody. >> * The Makefiles have been almost entirely rewritten. >> >> From a technical standpoint, the Makefiles is the most interesting. I >> wrote an "automake-like" system for GNU make that gives us a lot for >> "free". Easy non-recursive make, `dist` support, all of the standard >> `clean` targets. So that means that I'm actually producing >> distribution tarballs now, instead of using snapshots from cgit. > > > Thanks Luke for the job you done > 44 files changed, 1261 insertions(+), 668 deletions(-) > > Not easy from what I have tried to understand! It goes now in conflict with devtools, is that normal? -- Aur?lien DESBRI?RES -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From alfplayer at mailoo.org Tue Feb 9 13:03:36 2016 From: alfplayer at mailoo.org (Esteban Carnevale) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 10:03:36 -0300 Subject: [Dev] New Mirror in CA, USA In-Reply-To: <56B91366.80509@openmailbox.org> References: <56B91366.80509@openmailbox.org> Message-ID: <56B9E3A8.1040803@mailoo.org> On 02/08/16 19:15, Luke wrote: > Hello! > I recently discovered a good server deal and grabbed it. I haven't setup > HTTPS properly yet, so for the time being it's HTTP. This may be good > anyway since we can use the HTTP as a webseed for torrents. (Torrents do > not currently accept HTTPS webseeds, making my other repo useless for > that purpose). > > # Location: Los Angeles, CA > # Responsible: 4096R/3EAE8697 g4jc > # Work hours: 24*7 > Server =http://server2.goodgnus.com.ar/$repo/os/$arch > > > While we're at it, let's update the mirror list to reflect my current > GPG/E-mail combination: > > # Location: Flevoland, Netherlands > # Responsible: 4096R/3EAE8697 g4jc > # Work hours: 24*7 > # HTTPS cert SHA1 > DE:EC:EC:53:95:91:00:FA:72:C7:E1:75:27:BA:C7:AE:D2:90:D1:22 > #Server =https://parabola.goodgnus.com.ar/$repo/os/$arch > > > > We should also remove alfplayer and fryxell mirrors, they've been down > for months and I got no response from them. > > Thanks. > > Luke > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev I'm searching for messages from you and I'm not finding any. My setup is a mess so I can't tell why. I asked my mirror to be removed on IRC some time ago because I couldn't maintain it, but now I can get it working again soon, so please don't remove it. -- Esteban Carnevale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Tue Feb 9 15:43:33 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:43:33 -0300 Subject: [Dev] New Mirror in CA, USA In-Reply-To: <56B9E3A8.1040803@mailoo.org> References: <56B91366.80509@openmailbox.org> <56B9E3A8.1040803@mailoo.org> Message-ID: <56BA0925.20100@riseup.net> On 02/09/2016 10:03 AM, Esteban Carnevale wrote: > On 02/08/16 19:15, Luke wrote: >> Hello! >> I recently discovered a good server deal and grabbed it. I haven't setup >> HTTPS properly yet, so for the time being it's HTTP. This may be good >> anyway since we can use the HTTP as a webseed for torrents. (Torrents do >> not currently accept HTTPS webseeds, making my other repo useless for >> that purpose). >> >> # Location: Los Angeles, CA >> # Responsible: 4096R/3EAE8697 g4jc >> # Work hours: 24*7 >> Server = http://server2.goodgnus.com.ar/$repo/os/$arch >> >> >> While we're at it, let's update the mirror list to reflect my current >> GPG/E-mail combination: >> >> # Location: Flevoland, Netherlands >> # Responsible: 4096R/3EAE8697 g4jc >> # Work hours: 24*7 >> # HTTPS cert SHA1 >> DE:EC:EC:53:95:91:00:FA:72:C7:E1:75:27:BA:C7:AE:D2:90:D1:22 >> #Server = https://parabola.goodgnus.com.ar/$repo/os/$arch >> >> >> >> We should also remove alfplayer and fryxell mirrors, they've been down >> for months and I got no response from them. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Luke >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev > I'm searching for messages from you and I'm not finding any. My setup is > a mess so I can't tell why. I asked my mirror to be removed on IRC some > time ago because I couldn't maintain it, but now I can get it working > again soon, so please don't remove it. ok, i'll add the new mirrors and remove fryxell one, i let know when it's done. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silva wrote: > On 02/04/2016 10:07 AM, Paulo Henrique Santana wrote: >> Os valores s?o os seguintes: >> 6 m2- R$ 6.000,00 >> 15 m2 - R$ 15.000,00 >> 20 m2 - R$ 20.000,00 >> 25 m2 - R$ 25.000,00 >> >> Na semana que vem teremos um material gr?fico explicando melhor todas as formas de patroc?nios. > > Obrigado pela informa??o pois esse material vai ser muito importante pra > comunidade dar uma melhor conferida. Por outro lado e enquanto a gente > pensar nesse assunto, poder?amos j? ir reservando o nosso espa?o na ?rea > de comunidades? Pelo menos pra ir adiantando caso a comunidade n?o > quiser pagar o valor do patroc?nio, e pelo menos ter a garantia de ter o > espa?o pra a gente colocar o nosso material (posters, stickers, v?deos, > etc) do Parabola no FISL. Gostaria de fazer outra pergunta baseada da ideia de um dos nossos mantenedores do Parabola GNU/Linux-libre chamado Nicol?s (fauno) da conversa??o que a gente teve na lista de correio do Parabola [0], pois como ele pr?prio disse [1], a nossa distribui??o por enquanto n?o tem suficientes fundos para pagar os custos de patroc?nio, e ent?o caso exista a oportunidade, poder?amos receber patroc?nio do FISL como forma de ajuda para arranjar um stande? [0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2016-February/003752.html [1]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2016-February/003754.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Prior to that, it had devtools as a dependency. -- Happy hacking, ~ Luke Shumaker From alfplayer at mailoo.org Wed Feb 10 01:21:03 2016 From: alfplayer at mailoo.org (Esteban Carnevale) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:21:03 -0300 Subject: [Dev] http://alfplayer.com/parabola disabled temporarily In-Reply-To: <20151005114840.7c2cbe458d650993410bf8f2@mailoo.org> References: <20151005114840.7c2cbe458d650993410bf8f2@mailoo.org> Message-ID: <56BA907F.90600@mailoo.org> On 10/05/15 11:48, Esteban Carnevale wrote: > Until the main server bandwidth issue is fixed. > > It's up again. It's in mirrorlist but not in parabolaweb so please add it there. I haven't checked if the bandwidth issue is solved yet. I worked around this problem to sync this time. -- Esteban Carnevale From emulatorman at riseup.net Wed Feb 10 05:20:58 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 02:20:58 -0300 Subject: [Dev] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Re=3A_Par=C3=A1bola_GNU/Linux-libre_no_FIS?= =?utf-8?q?L?= In-Reply-To: <766638434.39680.1455050546066.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> References: <766638434.39680.1455050546066.JavaMail.zimbra@softwarelivre.org> Message-ID: <56BAC8BA.40203@riseup.net> fyi -- -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Par?bola GNU/Linux-libre no FISL Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 18:42:26 -0200 (BRST) From: Paulo Henrique Santana To: lxoliva , Parabola Mail List , Andr? Silva , Junior Goergen ----- Mensagem original ----- > De: "Andr? Silva" > Gostaria de fazer outra pergunta baseada da ideia de um dos nossos > mantenedores do Parabola GNU/Linux-libre chamado Nicol?s (fauno) da > conversa??o que a gente teve na lista de correio do Parabola [0], pois > como ele pr?prio disse [1], a nossa distribui??o por enquanto n?o tem > suficientes fundos para pagar os custos de patroc?nio, e ent?o caso > exista a oportunidade, poder?amos receber patroc?nio do FISL como forma > de ajuda para arranjar um stande? > > [0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2016-February/003752.html > [1]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2016-February/003754.html Ol? Andr?, Esses stands pagos s?o fornecidos para empresas e entidades que ajudam a custear o FISL, por isso n?o ? poss?vel fornec?-los gratuitamente. Mas no FISL existe um espa?o chamado de "?rea de comunidades" onde os grupos ocupam suas mesas gratuitamente durante o evento. Aqui voc? pode ver as fotos do espa?o ocupado por uma das comunidades ano passado: https://www.flickr.com/photos/curitibalivre/albums/72157657351264801 Esse espa?o ? gratuito e voc?s podem se inscrever quando a chamada de comunidades estiver aberta. Voc? pode ver no link abaixo como foi a chamada ano passado: http://softwarelivre.org/fisl16/noticias/area-das-comunidades Abra?os, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre Fone: +55 (41) 9198-1897 Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Andr?, > > Esses stands pagos s?o fornecidos para empresas e entidades que ajudam a custear o FISL, por isso n?o ? poss?vel fornec?-los gratuitamente. ok, blz. > Mas no FISL existe um espa?o chamado de "?rea de comunidades" onde os grupos ocupam suas mesas gratuitamente durante o evento. > Aqui voc? pode ver as fotos do espa?o ocupado por uma das comunidades ano passado: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/curitibalivre/albums/72157657351264801 Tive vendo as fotos, e reparei que o stand tem um cartaz com o logotipo (neste caso o CuritibaLivre). Isso ai a gente tem que preparar e levar pro FISL, ou temos que enviar um arquivo em formato SVG (curvas) pra que seja feito no FISL quando a gente tiver o stand? > Esse espa?o ? gratuito e voc?s podem se inscrever quando a chamada de comunidades estiver aberta. > Voc? pode ver no link abaixo como foi a chamada ano passado: > http://softwarelivre.org/fisl16/noticias/area-das-comunidades Obrigado pela informa??o, isto me tirou as duvidas ao respeito do assunto. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com Fri Feb 12 12:03:33 2016 From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:03:33 +0700 Subject: [Dev] problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oh yes im install it from local repo and seem that Im doesnt update the parabola recently here's some pkg version linux-libre 4.2.5_gnu-1 sytemd 277-1 consolekit 1.0.0-1 plasma-meta 5.4.2 sddm 0.13.0-1 network-manager-applet 1.0.7-1 plasma-nm 5.4.3-1 networkmanager 1.0.7-1 networkmanager-qt 5.15.0-1 polkit-kde 0.99.0-5 polkit-kde-agent 5.4.3-1 is that an outdated since arch switch consolekit to systemd logind ? does you guys get the network manager applet work out the box without tweaking the systen first ? 2016-02-12 15:20 GMT+07.00, Dika Setya Prayogi : > I'm installing parabola with kde5 plasma and sddm. > > when login as other user than root I always get a message > > "not authorized to control networking" > > when atempt a connetion to wireless (in this case wifi or tethering > hotspot) by using plasma-nm or network manager applet. > > Im use polkit-kde (not very different from polkit-gnome), anyone know > a solution ? > From elcorreo at deshackra.com Sat Feb 13 02:59:41 2016 From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 20:59:41 -0600 Subject: [Dev] libretools 20160208 release announcement In-Reply-To: <87r3gmajzd.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <87r3gmajzd.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87pow148o2.fsf@abril.charola> Awesome, thank you! El lunes 08 de febrero del 2016 a las 1657 horas, Luke Shumaker escribi?: > I just released libretools 20160208 to [libre], and pushed the source tarball > to . > > It's a pretty boring release, change-wise; it's mostly to work with > the new version of pacman. > > Changes from 20150607 to 20160208: > * libremakepkg: Work with pacman 5.0 > * librefetch: Work with pacman 5.0 > * xbs-abslibre: Bug fixes > * Documentation: > * The libreblacklist manpage said libremessages in some places > * Added librexgettext(1) manpage > * $(bindir)/libre* and $(pkglibexecdir)/*.sh are no longer the same > file. The one in bin sources the one in lib. This shouldn't > affect anybody. > * The Makefiles have been almost entirely rewritten. > > From a technical standpoint, the Makefiles is the most interesting. I > wrote an "automake-like" system for GNU make that gives us a lot for > "free". Easy non-recursive make, `dist` support, all of the standard > `clean` targets. So that means that I'm actually producing > distribution tarballs now, instead of using snapshots from cgit. -- ? Pax et bonum. Jorge Araya Navarro https://es.gravatar.com/shackra From GNUtoo at no-log.org Sat Feb 13 22:06:38 2016 From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:06:38 +0100 Subject: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild Message-ID: <20160213230638.15ae753c@top-laptop> Hi, Summary: -------- If you used the default pacman mirrorlists, your system is not up to date. http://parabolagnulinux.mirrors.linux.ro/$repo/os/$arch was the default mirror in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist That mirror was not updated for a while, so people using the default configuration are still stuck with an old mirrorlist pointing to a mirror that is not updated anymore... How to check if you are affected: --------------------------------- > # pacman -Q -o /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist is owned by pacman-mirrorlist > 20151101-1.parabola1 > # mkdir tmp && cd tmp && tar \ > xf /var/cache/pacman/pkg/pacman-mirrorlist-20151101-1.parabola1-any.pkg.tar.xz > # diff -u etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist ; echo $? > 0 > # grep "^Server" /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist | head -n1 > Server = http://parabolagnulinux.mirrors.linux.ro/$repo/os/$arch How should Parabola deal with it: --------------------------------- We need various solutions, for shorter and longer term. As for shorter term, we probably need to make sure the mirrorlist is coming from a trusted mirror that can be updated. We should of course use transports that can't be tempered with, such as https or onion services it. Else a man in the middle can just replace what is being downloaded by older versions. We should also warn the users on the parabola website as soon as possible. I should also do a proper bugreport. I've also no idea how CVE are created. Medium term: ------------ We might want to split the db update files from the packages, and make the parabola infrastructure serve them, still with a transport that can't be tempered with to avoid man in the middle attacks. Long term: ---------- We should make sure that pacman update the db files safely, in a distributed manner. I've also heard about an update framework that address some of the issue https://theupdateframework.github.io/ but I didn't look into it yet. Denis. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Else a man in the middle can just > replace what is being downloaded by older versions. i think to trick pacman into installing compromised packages an attacker would need to compromise the ISOs first, since it's the moment you bootstrap the keyring database. any modified package after that would throw an error, because: * the package won't be signed and default pacman.conf requires signatures * the package would be signed with a gpg key that's not on the keyring, thus asking the user what to do * the attacker would include her gpg key into the keyring, but she would have to sign the keyring with a key from the previous keyring but if you distribute ISOs with your key on it, you would have control over what's trusted by pacman afterwards :D at this point it would just be easier to become a parabola packager and start pushing compromised packages. a clever attacker could just replace the parabola-keyring with another one including gpg keys under her control, and pushing it for a few minutes at a time so we don't notice the swap :3 or just distribute backdoored stuff and get away with it! i also think pacman shouldn't trust new keys, even when the signature of the package is valid (meaning someone trusted the packager for you). new keys should be signed by at least three other keys already trusted by pacman. the ideal scenario would be for people to build a solid wot with packagers, and pacman to check package validity against this database. of course this is impractical (?) > We should also warn the users on the parabola website as soon as > possible. > > I should also do a proper bugreport. > I've also no idea how CVE are created. labs.parabola.nu > Medium term: > ------------ > We might want to split the db update files from the packages, and make > the parabola infrastructure serve them, still with a transport that > can't be tempered with to avoid man in the middle attacks. you mean the databases will always be served from our servers? this would require patching pacman to hardcode those addresses no? wouldn't this be solved by signing databases? > Long term: > ---------- > We should make sure that pacman update the db files safely, in a > distributed manner. > > I've also heard about an update framework that > address some of the issue https://theupdateframework.github.io/ but I > didn't look into it yet. -- http://endefensadelsl.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:06:38 +0100 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > How should Parabola deal with it: > --------------------------------- > We need various solutions, for shorter and longer term. As said, I think we should enforce https or onion for mirrors. This is to prevents MITM. I however wonder how to enforce the security of TLS, since it can be configured to be unsafe on both, the server side and the client side. With that done, just having the mirrorlist hosted by parabola (for instance in a parabola/mirrorlist) protects against malicious MITM, mirrors not being updated for various reasons. I however wonder what would happen if a mirror also include an old version of the mirrorlist. Can it do that, or does the db prevent that, it probably would if it was signed by parabola. A malicious mirror would then have theses options left: -> Have a version of the mirror served that was made before the move of the mirrorlists. I guess that would be notified easily and very unpractical since, in the long run, it would only contain software that is older than what is running on the user's computer. -> As a mirror, pacman will contact it, and it might still be able to instead of hosting the usual packages, host an older version of the mirrorlist. Still even deploying that would be more secure than the current status. > Medium term: > ------------ > We might want to split the db update files from the packages, and make > the parabola infrastructure serve them, still with a transport that > can't be tempered with to avoid man in the middle attacks. We might also want to prevent pacman from picking it from a mirror that is not supposed to host it (like a mirror that already hosts the usual packages) Denis. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Else a man in the middle can just > > replace what is being downloaded by older versions. > > i think to trick pacman into installing compromised packages an > attacker would need to compromise the ISOs first, since it's the > moment you bootstrap the keyring database. I'm not talking about modified packages at all. What I'm talking about is simply tricking pacman into not installing the latest packages. This can be done if your main mirror is not up to date. All packages are valid and signed, they are just too old and may be pledged with security issues. Separate issues: ---------------- > at this point it would just be easier to become a parabola packager > and start pushing compromised packages. a clever attacker could just > replace the parabola-keyring with another one including gpg keys under > her control, and pushing it for a few minutes at a time so we don't > notice the swap :3 > or just distribute backdoored stuff and get away with it! This is a totally different issue. I think it should be addressed too. Verified builds is probably the solution. Centralized building might or might not be a good idea. > i also think pacman shouldn't trust new keys, even when the signature > of the package is valid (meaning someone trusted the packager for > you). new keys should be signed by at least three other keys already > trusted by pacman. Good idea. > the ideal scenario would be for people to build a solid wot with > packagers, and pacman to check package validity against this database. > of course this is impractical (?) Verified build would solve it I think. > > We should also warn the users on the parabola website as soon as > > possible. > > > > I should also do a proper bugreport. > > I've also no idea how CVE are created. > > labs.parabola.nu I'll do that as soon as I can, it was down yesterday. > > Medium term: > > ------------ > > We might want to split the db update files from the packages, and > > make the parabola infrastructure serve them, still with a transport > > that can't be tempered with to avoid man in the middle attacks. > > you mean the databases will always be served from our servers? this > would require patching pacman to hardcode those addresses no? > > wouldn't this be solved by signing databases? No. This is the main issue here. I've explained it in my other mail. > > I've also heard about an update framework that > > address some of the issue https://theupdateframework.github.io/ but > > I didn't look into it yet. I should look into that as soon as I've the time. 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"score": MirrorStatus > score; "delay": MirrorStatus delay; "rate": download rate; > "age": last server synchronization; "country": > server's location. > --threads n The number of threads to use when rating > mirrors. --verbose Print extra information to STDERR. > Only works with some options. > --info Print mirror information instead of a mirror > list. Filter options apply. > > filters: > The following filters are inclusive, i.e. the returned list will > only contain mirrors for which all of the given conditions are met. > > -a n, --age n Only return mirrors that have synchronized in > the last n hours. n may be an integer or a decimal number. > -c , --country > Match one of the given countries > (case-sensitive). Use "--list-countries" to see which are available. > -f n, --fastest n Return the n fastest mirrors that meet the > other criteria. Do not use this option without other > filtering options. > -i , --include > Include servers that match , where > is a Python regular express. > -x , --exclude > Exclude servers that match , where > is a Python regular express. > -l n, --latest n Limit the list to the n most recently > synchronized servers. > -n n, --number n Return at most n mirrors. > -p , --protocol > Match one of the given protocols, e.g. > "http", "ftp". It's in libre/reflector 2015.12-1.parabola1 and uses python3. If used by default: -> Would the "base" package pull out many more dependencies? -> Are the slower systems(very few RAM, slow storage) such as many ARM boards still usable? If all is fine, maybe pacman.conf could be tricked to use it. Denis. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com Sun Feb 14 20:45:18 2016 From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:45:18 +0000 Subject: [Dev] Kodi Message-ID: <56C0E75E.5010508@gmail.com> Hi, I'm getting crashes when running kodi on ARM. It's pretty much the same error in the log as this: http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=16356 Also I think the pulseaudio package was needed to get thus far, and it doesn't seem listed as a dependency. Josh From isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info Sun Feb 14 21:43:12 2016 From: isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info (Isaac David) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:43:12 -0600 Subject: [Dev] Kodi In-Reply-To: <56C0E75E.5010508@gmail.com> References: <56C0E75E.5010508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1455486192.5265.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> It depends on libpulse, full pulseaudio is optional. I can't try to reproduce the error ATM but I will take a look at those patches. Le dim. 14 f?vr. 2016 ? 14:45, Josh Branning a ?crit : > Hi, > > I'm getting crashes when running kodi on ARM. > > It's pretty much the same error in the log as this: > > http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=16356 > > Also I think the pulseaudio package was needed to get thus far, and > it doesn't seem listed as a dependency. > > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 07:22:00 2016 From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 07:22:00 +0000 Subject: [Dev] Kodi In-Reply-To: <1455486192.5265.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> References: <56C0E75E.5010508@gmail.com> <1455486192.5265.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> Message-ID: <56C17C98.1070301@gmail.com> It might actually be this bug that's causing the problem: trac.kodi.tv/ticket/15816 Though I can't seem to access the kodi site. Here's an archived copy, but it's out of date: https://web.archive.org/web/20150225044323/http://trac.kodi.tv/ticket/15816 On 14/02/16 21:43, Isaac David wrote: > It depends on libpulse, full pulseaudio is optional. > I can't try to reproduce the error ATM but I will take a look at those > patches. > > Le dim. 14 f?vr. 2016 ? 14:45, Josh Branning > a ?crit : >> Hi, I'm getting crashes when running kodi on ARM. It's pretty much the >> same error in the log as this: >> http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=16356 Also I think the >> pulseaudio package was needed to get thus far, and it doesn't seem >> listed as a dependency. Josh >> _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list >> Dev at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev From GNUtoo at no-log.org Mon Feb 15 14:12:06 2016 From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:12:06 +0100 Subject: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild In-Reply-To: <56C0E69A.6090700@gmail.com> References: <20160213230638.15ae753c@top-laptop> <56C0E69A.6090700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160215151206.33f201fd@top-laptop> On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:42:02 +0000 Josh Branning wrote: > Thanks for telling about this. I commented out the line and it seems > to work ok for now. It does, after upgrading you can even put back the new default mirrorlist since it has been updated. My main concerns about that issue are: -> Many users don't know about it, they used the default configuration and are trapped (forever?) into the past. -> Parabola is vulnerable to outdated mirror, and parabola developers can't do nothing about it when it happens. Affected systems live in the past. And that doesn't even take into account MITM or malicious mirrors. MITM is very easy to fix, assuming we find a way to enforce good https for all mirrors, onion services don't need fixes. As for malicious mirrors, we can at least detect it, and with an http redirect, not make them the first mirror used. I really hope that bugreport will be taken into account by parabola developers, and not forgotten and left rotting in the bug tracker. We should also look if there are any vulnerable packages inside that outdated mirror. Firefox derivatives such as icecat and iceweasel might have some, since they are older than the ones in the up to date mirrors. I've added more information in https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/933 Denis. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fauno at endefensadelsl.org Mon Feb 15 14:45:30 2016 From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:45:30 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild In-Reply-To: <20160215151206.33f201fd@top-laptop> References: <20160213230638.15ae753c@top-laptop> <56C0E69A.6090700@gmail.com> <20160215151206.33f201fd@top-laptop> Message-ID: <8737sum3qt.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:42:02 +0000 > Josh Branning wrote: > >> Thanks for telling about this. I commented out the line and it seems >> to work ok for now. > It does, after upgrading you can even put back the new default > mirrorlist since it has been updated. > > My main concerns about that issue are: > -> Many users don't know about it, they used the default configuration > and are trapped (forever?) into the past. > -> Parabola is vulnerable to outdated mirror, and parabola developers > can't do nothing about it when it happens. Affected systems live in > the past. please help me test redirector.parabola.nu so we can avoid having mirrors in the first place :) -- .o?) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's another result forcing the database sync and about some packages -> http://ix.io/ooD -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Mon Feb 15 16:18:31 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:18:31 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [announcement] mirror redirector available for testing In-Reply-To: <56C1F8A4.3080206@riseup.net> References: <87twlb2u0r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56C1F666.6030700@riseup.net> <87ziv2kljt.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56C1F8A4.3080206@riseup.net> Message-ID: <56C1FA57.9070903@riseup.net> On 02/15/2016 01:11 PM, Andr? Silva wrote: > On 02/15/2016 01:03 PM, fauno wrote: >> Andr? Silva writes: >> >>> On 02/14/2016 12:25 PM, fauno wrote: >>>> >>>> hi! as we talked previously[^1], i was working on an nginx config for >>>> creating a mirror redirector. >>> >>> It was my result using pacman -Sy -> http://ix.io/ooA >> >> that's ok, those repo are not enabled on the redirector yet >> >> what about packages? > > It's another result forcing the database sync and about some packages -> > http://ix.io/ooD Another result installing packages (icecat-l10n-pt-br from [libre] and nimble from [community]) -> http://ix.io/ooF -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silva writes: > On 02/15/2016 03:13 PM, Isaac David wrote: >> Sparing the fact that I had to retry the operation to sort out the 404s >> (which I guess came from an outdated Arch mirror), it worked marvelously >> for me. > > Yes Isaac, sometimes i have the same issue. thanks for testing it! this may sound a little hacky but i guess you can probably add several copies of the redirector on your mirrorlist and obtain a different mirror as fallback download :P -- :D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From nicolasmaia at tutanota.com Wed Feb 17 23:38:24 2016 From: nicolasmaia at tutanota.com (nicolasmaia at tutanota.com) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 23:38:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Dev] Debian's Iceweasel will be renamed Firefox Message-ID: FYI: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006 Nicolas Maia -- Enviado seguramente pelo Tutanota. Torne sua caixa de correio criptografada hoje mesmo!https://tutanota.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info Thu Feb 18 16:20:26 2016 From: isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info (Isaac David) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:20:26 -0600 Subject: [Dev] Kodi In-Reply-To: <56C17C98.1070301@gmail.com> References: <56C0E75E.5010508@gmail.com> <1455486192.5265.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> <56C17C98.1070301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1455812426.9442.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> Hi again Josh, I have pushed a patched* kodi to [libre-testing] for you to test. Judging from the commit message the patch is aimed at hardcoding a value that isn't being correctly reported for Mali GPUs, but I don't known whether this little change affects non-Mali devices. That's why I will be keeping it in [libre-testing] for the time being. Moreover, if that patch is just helping surmount problems in the proprietary Mali driver I'm afraid my action could be regarded as introducing a dependency on non-free software and recommending non-free software, even though it's quite small a change. Assuming there's no freedom issue and assuming the package is working I think we should look forward into integrating those fixes somewhere along the upstream ArchARM -> Kodi line. * https://github.com/mdrjr/xbmc/commit/cebdda3d013f6e4a0aeb89fa4610dca767d3fd1e Le lun. 15 f?vr. 2016 ? 1:22, Josh Branning a ?crit : > It might actually be this bug that's causing the problem: > > trac.kodi.tv/ticket/15816 Same file but different bug. That patch is already merged in the release we are using. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com Fri Feb 19 09:12:03 2016 From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:12:03 +0000 Subject: [Dev] Kodi In-Reply-To: <1455812426.9442.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> References: <56C0E75E.5010508@gmail.com> <1455486192.5265.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> <56C17C98.1070301@gmail.com> <1455812426.9442.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info> Message-ID: <56C6DC63.8090506@gmail.com> Hi, I haven't got round to testing this yet but hopefully I should do soon. Upon reading further I think Kodi requires EGL or OpenGL on linux. Mesa provides this, using libdrm. The kernel therefore may need to support it (at least for mali devices). The mainline kernel doesn't have a drm driver, but the sunxi kernel does. [1] I am unsure at how complete the support is in the sunxi kernel, but I have a sunxi kernel already compiled, and possibly an arch linux arm image that uses the kernel [2] ... which depends on if my dd backup was successful. (I've since overwritten the sdcard with Parabola and don't particularly wish to recompile.) When I get back, I should be able to try kodi: 1) On Parabola ARM, with the patch. and if that fails: 2) On the Arch Linux ARM image with the sunxi kernel and mesa, without the patch. and if I still get the error: 3) On the Arch Linux ARM image with the sunxi kernel and mesa, with the patch. If I'm not successful, perhaps because the image was corrupted when backing up, I will should try to use the sunxi kernel uImage with parabola or arch linux arm, but really I am unsure how I would go about this ... hopefully it won't get to that. All the best, Josh [1] https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/tree/sunxi-3.4/drivers/gpu/drm/mali [2] Source used to build at (beware - this uses blobby blobby blobby kernels): http://joshyyy.twilightparadox.com/owncloud/index.php/s/Tpjo5ELi1ecZqIW On 18/02/16 16:20, Isaac David wrote: > Hi again Josh, > > I have pushed a patched* kodi to [libre-testing] for you to test. > Judging from the commit message the patch is aimed at hardcoding a value > that > isn't being correctly reported for Mali GPUs, but I don't known whether > this little > change affects non-Mali devices. That's why I will be keeping it in > [libre-testing] > for the time being. > > Moreover, if that patch is just helping surmount problems in the proprietary > Mali driver I'm afraid my action could be regarded as introducing a > dependency > on non-free software and recommending non-free software, even though it's > quite small a change. > > Assuming there's no freedom issue and assuming the package is working I > think > we should look forward into integrating those fixes somewhere along the > upstream > ArchARM -> Kodi line. > > * > https://github.com/mdrjr/xbmc/commit/cebdda3d013f6e4a0aeb89fa4610dca767d3fd1e > > Le lun. 15 f?vr. 2016 ? 1:22, Josh Branning a > ?crit : >> It might actually be this bug that's causing the problem: >> trac.kodi.tv/ticket/15816 > > Same file but different bug. That patch is already merged in the release > we are using. From dantas at airpost.net Mon Feb 22 19:13:42 2016 From: dantas at airpost.net (Bruno Dantas) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:13:42 -0500 Subject: [Dev] "Arch Linux Archive" for Parabola Message-ID: <56CB5DE6.5010803@airpost.net> I would like to donate the hosting cost for Parabola to have something similar to the "Arch Linux Archive" (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive) collection of snapshots. Having something like this would allow people to point their pacman to a snapshot rather than to the regular (rolling) mirror, so that they can reliably install packages between system upgrades. There are many other benefits as well. Would the Parabola hackers be interested in this? If there is interest, I'm ready to fund the effort and to contribute in other ways, too, to the limit of my ability. -Bruno From fauno at endefensadelsl.org Mon Feb 22 21:35:48 2016 From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:35:48 -0300 Subject: [Dev] "Arch Linux Archive" for Parabola In-Reply-To: <56CB5DE6.5010803@airpost.net> References: <56CB5DE6.5010803@airpost.net> Message-ID: <8760xgpgwb.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> Bruno Dantas writes: > I would like to donate the hosting cost for Parabola to have something > similar to the "Arch Linux Archive" > (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive) collection of > snapshots. this sounds great! i hope someone can have the time to do it :) thanks bruno! ps: IMO arch/parabola is not that unstable if you pay attention, but such sta(b)le repos could be useful not only for downgrading temporarily but also for distributing live isos where you don't have to upgrade the whole system and deal with possible issues when you just want to install a package. then we can provide a way to "upgrade to the next month" or something like that. i believe we discussed something like this on #parabola a long time ago. -- http://lainventoria.com.ar/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Josh. > I should be able to try kodi: > > 1) On Parabola ARM, with the patch. > and if that fails: > 2) On the Arch Linux ARM image with the sunxi kernel and mesa, without > the patch. > and if I still get the error: > 3) On the Arch Linux ARM image with the sunxi kernel and mesa, with the > patch. From nobody at parabola.nu Tue Feb 23 22:05:11 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:05:11 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [kodi] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160223220511.14889.30725@parabola.nu> yogiboaron at opmbx.org wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * kodi 15.2-5.parabola2 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/kodi/ * kodi 15.2-5.parabola1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/kodi/ * kodi 15.2-5.parabola1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/kodi/ The user provided the following additional text: Hi, Kodi 16 is out :) https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/kodi/ From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com Thu Feb 25 09:59:53 2016 From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:59:53 +0700 Subject: [Dev] contribute wallpapers for parabola Message-ID: Hi I have some wallpapers for parabola ready to be use for next couple of parabola releases, they all cc-by-sa licensed and I dont know parabola wallpaper standart so fell free to edit them (svg vector image also included). online view: via ctrlv site 1. go to CtrlV.in website http://ctrlv.in/ 2. sign in username= dikasetyaprayogi password= 789786789786 3. click on Hi dikasetyaprayogi 4. dont forget to click logout in the bottom when you done downloads: I dont know hosting related stuf so Im upload it via google drive (sorry I dont mean to suggest or promote propietary service) 1. go to drive https://www.google.com/drive/ 2. click go to google drive 3. enter your email= cybernucleoplasm then enter password= cybernucleoplasm123 4. choose compressed filetype supported in your system then clik right and download 5. dont forget to sign out, click on c circle symbol on the top right and click sign out just tell me if something wrong and I hope you like it ;-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfplayer at mailoo.org Fri Feb 26 12:28:53 2016 From: alfplayer at mailoo.org (Esteban Carnevale) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:28:53 -0300 Subject: [Dev] "Arch Linux Archive" for Parabola In-Reply-To: <56CB5DE6.5010803@airpost.net> References: <56CB5DE6.5010803@airpost.net> Message-ID: <56D04505.5010202@mailoo.org> On 02/22/16 16:13, Bruno Dantas wrote: > I would like to donate the hosting cost for Parabola to have something > similar to the "Arch Linux Archive" > (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive) collection of > snapshots. > > Having something like this would allow people to point their pacman to a > snapshot rather than to the regular (rolling) mirror, so that they can > reliably install packages between system upgrades. There are many other > benefits as well. > > Would the Parabola hackers be interested in this? If there is interest, > I'm ready to fund the effort and to contribute in other ways, too, to > the limit of my ability. > > -Bruno > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev http://alfplayer.com/ provides this basically. As you can see, it was working until 4 months ago. Now I started to sync it again and I intend to keep it working. Sharing the scripts is still on my to do list. It's also possible to use or adapt the Arch Rollback Machine scripts, which were publicly available last time I checked. -- Esteban Carnevale From nobody at parabola.nu Fri Feb 26 13:26:17 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:26:17 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [utox-git] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160226132617.1142.1912@parabola.nu> nicolasmaia at tutanota.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * utox-git 0.5.0.r11.gc1455ba-1 [pcr] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/i686/utox-git/ * utox-git 0.5.0.r11.gc1455ba-1 [pcr] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/x86_64/utox-git/ The user provided the following additional text: Newer release at https://github.com/GrayHatter/uTox/releases From dantas at airpost.net Fri Feb 26 12:51:26 2016 From: dantas at airpost.net (Bruno Dantas) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 07:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Dev] "Arch Linux Archive" for Parabola In-Reply-To: <56D04505.5010202@mailoo.org> References: <56CB5DE6.5010803@airpost.net> <56D04505.5010202@mailoo.org> Message-ID: <772029A8-BD48-488E-9421-3759B077E79B@airpost.net> I checked out alfplayer.com and it is great. I had no idea it existed. Even if the ALA scripts are available, I think it would be better for parabola to have few (one?) such set of mirrors--less duplicated effort, less strain on the official repos. Alfplayer will do nicely if it is kept working. If alfplayer can be kept working, it would be nice if it were prominently advertised somewhere on parabola's website. If I can somehow help maintain it--with either my time, bandwidth, hardware, or finances--please let me know. I think something like this is highly valuable and useful. On February 26, 2016 7:28:53 AM EST, Esteban Carnevale wrote: >On 02/22/16 16:13, Bruno Dantas wrote: >> I would like to donate the hosting cost for Parabola to have >something >> similar to the "Arch Linux Archive" >> (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive) collection >of >> snapshots. >> >> Having something like this would allow people to point their pacman >to a >> snapshot rather than to the regular (rolling) mirror, so that they >can >> reliably install packages between system upgrades. There are many >other >> benefits as well. >> >> Would the Parabola hackers be interested in this? If there is >interest, >> I'm ready to fund the effort and to contribute in other ways, too, to >> the limit of my ability. >> >> -Bruno >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev >http://alfplayer.com/ provides this basically. As you can see, it was >working until 4 months ago. Now I started to sync it again and I intend > >to keep it working. Sharing the scripts is still on my to do list. It's > >also possible to use or adapt the Arch Rollback Machine scripts, which >were publicly available last time I checked. From nobody at parabola.nu Sat Feb 27 17:45:23 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:45:23 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [iceweasel] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160227174523.486.35590@parabola.nu> etfaker at bestmail.ws wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * iceweasel 1:44.0.deb1-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/iceweasel/ * iceweasel 1:44.0.2.deb1-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/iceweasel/ * iceweasel-debug 1:44.0.deb1-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/iceweasel-debug/ * iceweasel-debug 1:44.0.2.deb1-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/iceweasel-debug/ The user provided the following additional text: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/44.0.2/releasenotes/ From emulatorman at riseup.net Mon Feb 29 13:44:17 2016 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Silva?=) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:44:17 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Ideas for Parabola at FISL17 In-Reply-To: <56859B2F.7010904@riseup.net> References: <5667E1D0.8070104@riseup.net> <56732E11.4020704@ceata.org> <871ta37tm3.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56841956.9030705@riseup.net> <87poxn6cfp.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56845CEF.4000302@riseup.net> <56857D6E.2010201@riseup.net> <87twmy4een.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <56858155.3090401@riseup.net> <87r3i24dmd.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <5685898C.4060705@ceata.org> <568593BA.9070607@riseup.net> <5685946D.60406@ceata.org> <56859B2F.7010904@riseup.net> Message-ID: <56D44B31.7020501@riseup.net> On 12/31/2015 05:47 PM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: > On 31.12.2015 22:44, Andr? Silva wrote: >> On 12/31/2015 05:01 PM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: >>> Guys, please remember we need bills for every expense and for food it's >>> sometimes hard to get a bill if you buy it from an impromptu store (this >>> is usually the case at events) or even when you go in a pub or >>> restaurant, it's harder to get an individual bill for the things only >>> you ordered if you go with a group (and usually this is the case at events). >> >> yes, you're right, but could we ask or looking for places where could >> give us individual bills for food expenses? > > Absolutely. If you ask them beforehand, they will know to issue and > individual for you. I've found a online food delivery [0] and the Porto Alegre's public food market [1] that accepts pay online with credit card. [0]:https://www.hellofood.com.br/en/ [1]:https://mercadopublico.com.br/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From nobody at parabola.nu Mon Feb 29 16:10:50 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:10:50 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [linux-libre-grsec] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160229161050.474.83356@parabola.nu> jackdon at ruggedinbox.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * linux-libre-grsec 4.3.5_gnu.201602032209-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-grsec/ * linux-libre-grsec 4.4.2_gnu.201602182048-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-grsec/ * linux-libre-grsec 4.4.2_gnu.201602182048-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-grsec/ * linux-libre-grsec-docs 4.3.5_gnu.201602032209-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-grsec-docs/ * linux-libre-grsec-docs 4.4.2_gnu.201602182048-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-grsec-docs/ * linux-libre-grsec-docs 4.4.2_gnu.201602182048-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-grsec-docs/ * linux-libre-grsec-headers 4.3.5_gnu.201602032209-1 [libre] (armv7h): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/armv7h/linux-libre-grsec-headers/ * linux-libre-grsec-headers 4.4.2_gnu.201602182048-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-grsec-headers/ * linux-libre-grsec-headers 4.4.2_gnu.201602182048-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-grsec-headers/ The user provided the following additional text: Updated upstream From nobody at parabola.nu Mon Feb 29 17:50:30 2016 From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:50:30 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [package-query] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20160229175030.474.92817@parabola.nu> jackdon at ruggedinbox.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * package-query 1.7-2.1 [pcr] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/i686/package-query/ * package-query 1.7-2.1 [pcr] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/x86_64/package-query/ The user provided the following additional text: Upstream updated