[Dev] Let's revert and move changes introduced by bugs #645 and #677 on Iceweasel

Josh Branning lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 18:11:43 GMT 2015

I mean it's proprietary (or semi-free) software as a service; that only 
works with proprietary software. The loop-server uses a non-free API.

On 04/11/15 18:03, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote:
> You mean, PaaS. PaaS != SaaSS. I cannot find anything on gnu.org or fsf.org regarding PaaS as
> something unacceptably evil in regard to user's four freedoms. One could argue that from the privacy
> point of view is good enough reasons to have a Nonprism version of Iceweasel with Firefox Hello disabled.
> Besides, it seems that everything one have to do is to change the WebRTC backend and adapt loop
> server's code and you are done, I bet Mozilla is accepting patches for allowing this.
> In any case, I don't think this as a reason to disable Firefox Hello feature, outside of Nonprism.
> El martes 03 de noviembre del 2015 a las 1943 horas, Josh Branning escribió:
>> On 04/11/15 00:17, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote:
>>> This is also for Luke: Firefox's Hello feature works in a client-server architecture fashion (Like
>>> the SIP or XMPP protocol, but that doesn't mean that we should ban Linphone or any Jabber client
>>> because they relay in a SaaSS services (wat?!)), and I see hard to think that because I cannot
>>> "switch" to another provider for Hello it means that I have lost any of my four freedoms.
>>> BTW, the code of the backend is here[1], who wants to convince the FSF or the SFC to mount a Loop (Hello) server?
>>> [1]: https://github.com/mozilla-services/loop-server
>>> El lunes 02 de noviembre del 2015 a las 1538 horas, Josh Branning escribió:
>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
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>> '  How do I run it?
>> '  Be sure to edit the content of config/dev.json. You'll especially
>> need to specify your TokBox credentials." [1]
>> ' TokBox is a PaaS (Platform as a Service) company that provides hosted
>> infrastructure, APIs and tools required to deliver enterprise-grade
>> WebRTC capabilities. It does so primarily through its proprietary
>> OpenTok video platform for commercial application. [2]
>> Therefore, by the looks of things, not only is is SaaS, but it's
>> proprietary SaaS.
>> [1] https://github.com/mozilla-services/loop-server
>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokbox

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