From emulatorman at riseup.net  Sat Aug  1 01:02:43 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:02:43 -0300
Subject: [Dev]  [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <54B6EA1C.6010003@cryptolab.net>
References: <548D8C65.9060906@cryptolab.net> <874msyqmkg.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <20141217210806.GA620@donderklumpen.de> <54947289.3010302@cryptolab.net>
 <20141219193247.GA560@donderklumpen.de>
 <20141219194044.GB560@donderklumpen.de> <549551CB.1090608@cryptolab.net>
 <20141220114358.GA1293@donderklumpen.de> <549561C9.4040302@cryptolab.net>
 <54A80F6A.2000808@cryptolab.net> <20150113212339.GA2095@donderklumpen.de>
 <54B6EA1C.6010003@cryptolab.net>
Message-ID: <55BC1AB3.4090501@riseup.net>

Hey, some days ago we were talking about how to begin Parabola ARM
project. The following points suggested were the next one:

* Ebrasca sent a email (in spanish language) because he has interest to
donate some ARM devices for the Parabola ARM project [0]. I told
Jorginho to receive those devices to begin the project. He accepted it
to give access via ssh to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.

* Gaming4JC said there are a lot of different packages to take from Arch
ARM [1]. e.g. arm5, armv6, armv7 and armv8 are all different. If the
packages will be a lot we should have separate mirrors, but it will also
would need more space for it.

* We would rsync pull from Arch ARM, but Gaming4JC confirmed on their
IRC that they do not allow rsync pulls. Critically, a mirror must to
able to be set up to receive rsync pushes from a server. e.g. a server
created by us. This can happen via rsyncd or over ssh. It do not make
use of rsync pull for mirroring. They allow mirroring under invite only
and custom rsyncd.conf and they push to mirrors. It was confirmed at
#archlinux-arm by a developer WarheadsSE. So for this work, we need
become a mirror and then fork their packages.

* We need more power man to maintain ARM packages like the same way than
we are doing in x86. Gaming4JC and ovruni have interest to begin it.

* Icarious proposed fetch entire PKGBUILD and packages using a build
server as alternative way.

Considerations and suggestions are welcome as we move forward with this
project! :)

Happy hacking \o/

[0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2015-July/003120.html
[1]:http://archlinuxarm.org/

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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sat Aug  1 01:05:54 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:05:54 -0300
Subject: [Dev] New packaging standards/policy discussion
In-Reply-To: <55BBF407.2020205@openmailbox.org>
References: <55BAA18C.6060706@openmailbox.org>
 <877fpg5jgr.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <55BBF407.2020205@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <87r3nnlswd.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Luke <g4jc at openmailbox.org> writes:

> On 07/31/2015 01:24 PM, Micha? Mas?owski wrote:
>>> 2) Sign stuff manually using SHA512sum and openssl's whirlpool (see my
>>> PKGBUILDs for an example of this fail-safe); and import any GPG
>>> signatures from upstream as needed, adding them to validpgpkeys field
>>> for GPG verification.
>> Fix the tools so no manual work is needed here.
> Upstream bug/patch submitted:
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/45859
>
>
> It will be as easy as including
> sha512sum()
> whirlpoolsum()
> in the PKGBUILD.
>

you can add them to makepkg.conf (we can also add them to pacman's
makepkg.conf so it's default)

>>
>>> 3) Sign the PKGBUILD with GPG:
>>> gpg --default-key [YOURKEYID] -b PKGBUILD
>> Another manual step; also puts non-source files in the git repo.
>>
>> No code review is in this procedure.
> I don't see any way around this yet. You could do this in batch if desired.
> parallel gpg --default-key [yourkey] -b ::: PKGBUILD

you can add default-key to gpg.conf so you don't to specify it and it's
also useful if you use throw-keyids when encrypting

> If people are using abs it pulls PKGBUILD and related source files,
> adding a .sig allows abs users to validate the PKGBUILD was created by
> the claimed PKBUILD Maintainer. I consider this better than unsigned
> package builds since it wouldn't take much to alter a PKGBUILD and
> re-push. Then someone would need to go back and trace git commits to
> figure out who. Even then unless the git is signed it'll be very hard to
> determine how that happened since everyone is using the same git user,
> and it would be trivially easy to spoof username in gitconfig should an
> attacker actually gain access.

i'd prefer armored signatures so we don't bloat git's history with
binary blobs.

> Regarding the code review, thankfully gpg is pretty straight forward
> since we can use --verify.

i understood mtjm was refering to other people reviewing the pkgbuild
code before publishing the resulting binary package.  we can do "pair
packaging" but it'll be bothersome and bureaucratic :P

have you thought of a way to verify a binary package was the result of a
pkgbuild?

> The only unreviewed portion is my two hash skip functions since it is
> not possible to hash-check a file you will be altering. (in this case
> the GPG signature which is created /after/ the PKGBUILD)

i think the debian way is to sign the package description inline?

-- 
:O
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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sat Aug  1 01:33:52 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:33:52 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <55BC1AB3.4090501@riseup.net>
References: <548D8C65.9060906@cryptolab.net> <874msyqmkg.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <20141217210806.GA620@donderklumpen.de> <54947289.3010302@cryptolab.net>
 <20141219193247.GA560@donderklumpen.de>
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Message-ID: <87oairlrlr.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Andr? Silva <emulatorman at riseup.net> writes:

> Hey, some days ago we were talking about how to begin Parabola ARM
> project. The following points suggested were the next one:
>
> * Ebrasca sent a email (in spanish language) because he has interest to
> donate some ARM devices for the Parabola ARM project [0]. I told
> Jorginho to receive those devices to begin the project. He accepted it
> to give access via ssh to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.

awesome! \o/

> * Gaming4JC said there are a lot of different packages to take from Arch
> ARM [1]. e.g. arm5, armv6, armv7 and armv8 are all different. If the
> packages will be a lot we should have separate mirrors, but it will also
> would need more space for it.

i think we'll need to pick the most used architecture or the one
compatible with most of arm devices and focus on this.

> * We would rsync pull from Arch ARM, but Gaming4JC confirmed on their
> IRC that they do not allow rsync pulls. Critically, a mirror must to
> able to be set up to receive rsync pushes from a server. e.g. a server
> created by us. This can happen via rsyncd or over ssh. It do not make
> use of rsync pull for mirroring. They allow mirroring under invite only
> and custom rsyncd.conf and they push to mirrors. It was confirmed at
> #archlinux-arm by a developer WarheadsSE. So for this work, we need
> become a mirror and then fork their packages.

maybe we can setup our mirror in a way that the unfree packages get
removed in a second step, probably using a hard link backup so no extra
disk space is used:

arch-arm => private parabola mirror => public hard link backup with
unfree packages filtered out

the question is if arch-arm would agree to push to such a mirror.  in
the past they've expressed disregard for free software, but i don't know
if they would actively block a libre fork.

> * We need more power man to maintain ARM packages like the same way than
> we are doing in x86. Gaming4JC and ovruni have interest to begin it.
>
> * Icarious proposed fetch entire PKGBUILD and packages using a build
> server as alternative way.

it would be awesome if abs supported cross building :P

is jorginho going to setup the arm devices on a distcc network?  this
would require at least one extra x86 machine that's able to
cross-compile for arm (with ct-ng-libre or any other cross-toolchain)
and run a distcc server, so the arm device would delegate the compiling
part to it and just take care of linking and packaging (which is not
always the lighter part of the process, but still).

the arch arm people does this and i've tested succesfully on the
mips64el port.  it's not difficult to setup, it just needs the distcc
option enabled on the arm makepkg.conf and the distccd service running
on the x86 machines, appropiately configured to have the cross toolchain
in its PATH.

i would also advise to use dagpkg from libretools, since it can build
From abs in correct order of dependencies, and detect some circular
dependencies that i guess still exist in abs.

i can't commit to be an arm porter but i can give advise and some rants
:)

would it be possible to give libremakepkg the ability to run on a remote
build machine?  i'm thinking it would involve copying the files over ssh
to this machine and instruct it to run the local libremakepkg.

> Considerations and suggestions are welcome as we move forward with this
> project! :)
>
> Happy hacking \o/
>
> [0]:https://lists.parabola.nu/pipermail/dev/2015-July/003120.html
> [1]:http://archlinuxarm.org/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev

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From aurelien at hackers.camp  Sat Aug  1 05:32:06 2015
From: aurelien at hackers.camp (aurelien)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:06 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <87oairlrlr.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> (fauno@endefensadelsl.org's
 message of "Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:33:52 -0300")
References: <548D8C65.9060906@cryptolab.net> <874msyqmkg.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <20141217210806.GA620@donderklumpen.de>
 <54947289.3010302@cryptolab.net>
 <20141219193247.GA560@donderklumpen.de>
 <20141219194044.GB560@donderklumpen.de>
 <549551CB.1090608@cryptolab.net>
 <20141220114358.GA1293@donderklumpen.de>
 <549561C9.4040302@cryptolab.net> <54A80F6A.2000808@cryptolab.net>
 <20150113212339.GA2095@donderklumpen.de>
 <54B6EA1C.6010003@cryptolab.net> <55BC1AB3.4090501@riseup.net>
 <87oairlrlr.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <87614zbmll.fsf@hackers.camp>

fauno <fauno at endefensadelsl.org> writes:

> Andr? Silva <emulatorman at riseup.net> writes:
>
>> Hey, some days ago we were talking about how to begin Parabola ARM
>> project. The following points suggested were the next one:
>>
>> * Ebrasca sent a email (in spanish language) because he has interest to
>> donate some ARM devices for the Parabola ARM project [0]. I told
>> Jorginho to receive those devices to begin the project. He accepted it
>> to give access via ssh to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.
>
> awesome! \o/

Cool a Para ARM :)

>> * Gaming4JC said there are a lot of different packages to take from Arch
>> ARM [1]. e.g. arm5, armv6, armv7 and armv8 are all different. If the
>> packages will be a lot we should have separate mirrors, but it will also
>> would need more space for it.
>
> i think we'll need to pick the most used architecture or the one
> compatible with most of arm devices and focus on this.
>
>> * We would rsync pull from Arch ARM, but Gaming4JC confirmed on their
>> IRC that they do not allow rsync pulls. Critically, a mirror must to
>> able to be set up to receive rsync pushes from a server. e.g. a server
>> created by us. This can happen via rsyncd or over ssh. It do not make
>> use of rsync pull for mirroring. They allow mirroring under invite only
>> and custom rsyncd.conf and they push to mirrors. It was confirmed at
>> #archlinux-arm by a developer WarheadsSE. So for this work, we need
>> become a mirror and then fork their packages.
>
> maybe we can setup our mirror in a way that the unfree packages get
> removed in a second step, probably using a hard link backup so no extra
> disk space is used:
>
> arch-arm => private parabola mirror => public hard link backup with
> unfree packages filtered out
>
> the question is if arch-arm would agree to push to such a mirror.  in
> the past they've expressed disregard for free software, but i don't know
> if they would actively block a libre fork.
>
>> * We need more power man to maintain ARM packages like the same way than
>> we are doing in x86. Gaming4JC and ovruni have interest to begin it.
>>
>> * Icarious proposed fetch entire PKGBUILD and packages using a build
>> server as alternative way.
>
> it would be awesome if abs supported cross building :P
>
> is jorginho going to setup the arm devices on a distcc network?  this
> would require at least one extra x86 machine that's able to
> cross-compile for arm (with ct-ng-libre or any other cross-toolchain)
> and run a distcc server, so the arm device would delegate the compiling
> part to it and just take care of linking and packaging (which is not
> always the lighter part of the process, but still).
>
> the arch arm people does this and i've tested succesfully on the
> mips64el port.  it's not difficult to setup, it just needs the distcc
> option enabled on the arm makepkg.conf and the distccd service running
> on the x86 machines, appropiately configured to have the cross toolchain
> in its PATH.
>
> i would also advise to use dagpkg from libretools, since it can build
> From abs in correct order of dependencies, and detect some circular
> dependencies that i guess still exist in abs.
>
> i can't commit to be an arm porter but i can give advise and some rants
> :)
>
> would it be possible to give libremakepkg the ability to run on a remote
> build machine?  i'm thinking it would involve copying the files over ssh
> to this machine and instruct it to run the local libremakepkg.

If we are speaking about the building package remotly ... that is what
I did (often) before my laptop ~ died

>> Considerations and suggestions are welcome as we move forward with this
>> project! :)
>>
>> Happy hacking \o/



-- 
Aur?lien DESBRI?RES
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sat Aug  1 07:34:09 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:34:09 +0200
Subject: [Dev] New packaging standards/policy discussion
In-Reply-To: <55BBF407.2020205@openmailbox.org> (Luke's message of "Fri, 31
 Jul 2015 18:17:43 -0400")
References: <55BAA18C.6060706@openmailbox.org>
 <877fpg5jgr.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <55BBF407.2020205@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <87zj2bcvim.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> I don't see any way around this yet. You could do this in batch if
> desired.
> parallel gpg --default-key [yourkey] -b ::: PKGBUILD
>
> If people are using abs it pulls PKGBUILD and related source files,
> adding a .sig allows abs users to validate the PKGBUILD was created by
> the claimed PKBUILD Maintainer.

PKGBUILDs should not be edited only by their maintainers.  If abs is
insecure, we should deprecate abs, not make git merges and rebases
require manual work of fixing the signatures.

> Even then unless the git is signed it'll be very hard
> to determine how that happened since everyone is using the same git
> user, and it would be trivially easy to spoof username in gitconfig
> should an attacker actually gain access.

But you want people to sign commits with their GPG keys?

> Regarding the code review, thankfully gpg is pretty straight forward
> since we can use --verify. 

Code review means that someone else would read the git patch and
approve it before the package is uploaded.  Yes, this procedure makes
the (nonexistent) review harder.
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sat Aug  1 07:38:20 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:38:20 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <55BC1AB3.4090501@riseup.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Andr=C3=A9?=
 Silva"'s message of "Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:02:43 -0300")
References: <548D8C65.9060906@cryptolab.net> <874msyqmkg.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <20141217210806.GA620@donderklumpen.de>
 <54947289.3010302@cryptolab.net>
 <20141219193247.GA560@donderklumpen.de>
 <20141219194044.GB560@donderklumpen.de>
 <549551CB.1090608@cryptolab.net>
 <20141220114358.GA1293@donderklumpen.de>
 <549561C9.4040302@cryptolab.net> <54A80F6A.2000808@cryptolab.net>
 <20150113212339.GA2095@donderklumpen.de>
 <54B6EA1C.6010003@cryptolab.net> <55BC1AB3.4090501@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <87vbczcvbn.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> * Gaming4JC said there are a lot of different packages to take from Arch
> ARM [1]. e.g. arm5, armv6, armv7 and armv8 are all different. If the
> packages will be a lot we should have separate mirrors, but it will also
> would need more space for it.

But all your devices are armv7?

> * We would rsync pull from Arch ARM, but Gaming4JC confirmed on their
> IRC that they do not allow rsync pulls. Critically, a mirror must to
> able to be set up to receive rsync pushes from a server. e.g. a server
> created by us. This can happen via rsyncd or over ssh. It do not make
> use of rsync pull for mirroring. They allow mirroring under invite only
> and custom rsyncd.conf and they push to mirrors. It was confirmed at
> #archlinux-arm by a developer WarheadsSE. So for this work, we need
> become a mirror and then fork their packages.

Don't, just use their PKGBUILDs as a git remote.  Build all packages
From source.

> * Icarious proposed fetch entire PKGBUILD and packages using a build
> server as alternative way.

+1

What fast devices do you have?
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From icarious at hacari.org  Sat Aug  1 12:47:33 2015
From: icarious at hacari.org (Icarious)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 18:17:33 +0530
Subject: [Dev] Main live Installation media 2015.08.01 (i686 and x86_64)
	Released
Message-ID: <20150801181733.d622037e5f6f8774ec6ea711@hacari.org>

parabola-2015.08.01-dual.iso is released. Added WHIRLPOOLSUMS checksum file along with SHA512SUMS which is also signed. It can be verified using `pacman-key -v WHIRLPOOLSUMS.sig` and then `whirlpool-hash -c WHIRLPOOLSUMS` (requires rhash installed). 

Keep seeding.
 
-- 
Icarious
GPG Public Key : 0x4428BA28AA2ACCD2
GPG Fingerprint : 6C37 E88E DD0B F042 7A15  676E 4428 BA28 AA2A CCD2
www.gnuos.in
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sat Aug  1 13:38:48 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 15:38:48 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [Maintenance] Cron <repo@parabola> /usr/bin/chronic bash
	-c '/home/repo/dbscripts/db-sync 2>&1'
In-Reply-To: <20150801112604.D0E47C01B1@repo.parabola.nu>
 (repo@repo.parabola.nu's message of "Sat, 1 Aug 2015 12:26:04 +0100
 (BST)")
References: <20150801112604.D0E47C01B1@repo.parabola.nu>
Message-ID: <87si83p1qv.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

[several thousand useless lines skipped]
> ==> Syncing source pool
> receiving file list ... 
> rsync: change_dir "/sources/packages" (in archlinux) failed: No such
> file or directory (2)

Changed mirror layout?  This failed for the second time.
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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sat Aug  1 13:55:22 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 10:55:22 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [Maintenance] Cron <repo@parabola> /usr/bin/chronic
	bash	-c '/home/repo/dbscripts/db-sync 2>&1'
In-Reply-To: <87si83p1qv.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>
References: <20150801112604.D0E47C01B1@repo.parabola.nu>
 <87si83p1qv.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>
Message-ID: <87a8ubkt9x.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Micha? Mas?owski <mtjm at mtjm.eu> writes:

> [several thousand useless lines skipped]
>> ==> Syncing source pool
>> receiving file list ... 
>> rsync: change_dir "/sources/packages" (in archlinux) failed: No such
>> file or directory (2)
>
> Changed mirror layout?  This failed for the second time.

some mirrors don't mirror sources

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From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 03:29:45 2015
From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 10:29:45 +0700
Subject: [Dev] a new idea for parabola grapichal ISO
Message-ID: <CAKpbLobSP4C16iHYXdC2Y7Tay7Wqg6kNUiicF+3K7R+ikk74NA@mail.gmail.com>

 parabola graphical ISO have a slight preconfigured system,a decent
GUI,well autoinstalation script,some regular applications,etc... it's
already not well macth with archway nor KISS principle but a bit
toward more GUI thing's. meanwhile there are some separated parabola
rebranded package like parabola-gnome,paraboley,etc including some
costum libre packages. what I want to tell it's why dont combine them
all and change it's orientation to make an GUI'ed parabola or user
friendly version of parabola as an more version alternative other than
parabola ISO that designed to use for advanced user.


From icarious at hacari.org  Sun Aug  2 07:02:16 2015
From: icarious at hacari.org (Icarious)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 12:32:16 +0530
Subject: [Dev] a new idea for parabola grapichal ISO
In-Reply-To: <CAKpbLobSP4C16iHYXdC2Y7Tay7Wqg6kNUiicF+3K7R+ikk74NA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKpbLobSP4C16iHYXdC2Y7Tay7Wqg6kNUiicF+3K7R+ikk74NA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150802123216.4f5e1f243117570d9e8110c6@hacari.org>


>  parabola graphical ISO have a slight preconfigured system,a decent
> GUI,well autoinstalation script,some regular applications,etc... it's
> already not well macth with archway nor KISS principle but a bit
> toward more GUI thing's. meanwhile there are some separated parabola
> rebranded package like parabola-gnome,paraboley,etc including some
> costum libre packages. what I want to tell it's why dont combine them
> all and change it's orientation to make an GUI'ed parabola or user
> friendly version of parabola as an more version alternative other than
> parabola ISO that designed to use for advanced user.

A consideration to port the Manjaro Graphical installer for Parabola as an alternative installation medium is already underway. But it is not an easy task as it sounds so it will take a while. Any help will be appreciated.

-- 
Icarious
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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Mon Aug  3 16:24:34 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:24:34 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Fwd: [Maintenance] Cron <git@parabola> chronic bash -c
	"/srv/git/update-gitmeta 'Update from cron' 2>&1"
Message-ID: <87wpxcgx19.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>




-- 
http://fauno.endefensadelsl.org

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From: "(Cron Daemon)" <git at repo.parabola.nu>
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
Date: Mon,  3 Aug 2015 16:00:06 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Maintenance] Cron <git at parabola> chronic bash -c
	"/srv/git/update-gitmeta 'Update from cron' 2>&1"

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
	LANGUAGE = (unset),
	LC_ALL = (unset),
	LC_COLLATE = "C",
	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
_______________________________________________
Maintenance mailing list
Maintenance at lists.parabola.nu
https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/maintenance
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Mon Aug  3 16:53:03 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:53:03 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Fwd: [Maintenance] Cron <git@parabola> chronic bash -c
	"/srv/git/update-gitmeta 'Update from cron' 2>&1"
In-Reply-To: <87wpxcgx19.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> (fauno@endefensadelsl.org's
 message of "Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:24:34 -0300")
References: <87wpxcgx19.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <877fpc9uvk.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

Running "sudo locale-gen" fixes it.  I have no idea why locales would
get deleted.
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From isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info  Tue Aug  4 23:31:44 2015
From: isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info (Isaac David)
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:31:44 -0500
Subject: [Dev] New mirror
Message-ID: <1438731104.5095.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>

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From j at jxself.org  Wed Aug  5 16:54:56 2015
From: j at jxself.org (Jason Self)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Dev] Making the radeon kernel module work again
Message-ID: <1438793696.25186@jxself.org>

You've heard of the patch from Denis [0] to make the radeon kernel module 
work again in free distros and not just fall over and die when the 
proprietary firmware isn't there? I'm writing to suggest applying it, if 
you aren't already. I also changed the patch to one that can be easily 
applied [1], since his patch was against blobbed Linux. I've added this to 
my APT repository for Linux-libre, starting with version 4.1.4 and already 
have reports of success from people on IRC.

[0] http://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2015-July/003080.html
[1] http://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2015-August/003098.html
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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Wed Aug  5 18:52:46 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:52:46 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Making the radeon kernel module work again
In-Reply-To: <1438793696.25186@jxself.org>
References: <1438793696.25186@jxself.org>
Message-ID: <55C25B7E.2010001@riseup.net>

On 08/05/2015 01:54 PM, Jason Self wrote:
> You've heard of the patch from Denis [0] to make the radeon kernel module 
> work again in free distros and not just fall over and die when the 
> proprietary firmware isn't there? I'm writing to suggest applying it, if 
> you aren't already. I also changed the patch to one that can be easily 
> applied [1], since his patch was against blobbed Linux. I've added this to 
> my APT repository for Linux-libre, starting with version 4.1.4 and already 
> have reports of success from people on IRC.
> 
> [0] http://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2015-July/003080.html
> [1] http://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2015-August/003098.html
> 

ok, i'll add that patch in the next revision of our kernels, thanks so
much for let know us about it :)

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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Wed Aug  5 18:55:12 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:55:12 -0300
Subject: [Dev] New mirror
In-Reply-To: <1438731104.5095.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>
References: <1438731104.5095.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>
Message-ID: <55C25C10.1010206@riseup.net>

On 08/04/2015 08:31 PM, Isaac David wrote:
> # Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
> # Responsible: 4096R/33466E12EC7BA943 Isaac David
> <isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info>
> # Work hours: 00:00 UTC - 12:00 UTC weekdays, 24h weekends
>   Server = http://parabola.isacdaavid.info:8081/$repo/os/$arch
> 

ok, i'm adding it to parabola-mirrorlist, i let know when it's ready,
thanks :)

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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Wed Aug  5 19:11:18 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:11:18 -0300
Subject: [Dev] New mirror
In-Reply-To: <55C25C10.1010206@riseup.net>
References: <1438731104.5095.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>
 <55C25C10.1010206@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <55C25FD6.6090709@riseup.net>

On 08/05/2015 03:55 PM, Andr? Silva wrote:
> On 08/04/2015 08:31 PM, Isaac David wrote:
>> # Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
>> # Responsible: 4096R/33466E12EC7BA943 Isaac David
>> <isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info>
>> # Work hours: 00:00 UTC - 12:00 UTC weekdays, 24h weekends
>>   Server = http://parabola.isacdaavid.info:8081/$repo/os/$arch
>>
> 
> ok, i'm adding it to parabola-mirrorlist, i let know when it's ready,
> thanks :)
> 

s|parabola-mirrorlist|pacman-mirrorlist

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From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 04:27:50 2015
From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:27:50 +0700
Subject: [Dev] ,Re: Re:  a new idea for parabola grapichal ISO
Message-ID: <CAKpbLoYiYrw+r5JR0t6jTdn-QijF5qtE3vYVXaO6yVs2gLBOAw@mail.gmail.com>

<icarious at hacari.org> wrote:

> A consideration to port the Manjaro Graphical installer for Parabola as an alternative installation medium is already underway. But it is not an easy task as it sounds so it will take a while. Any help will be appreciated.

thanks it's something nice to hear. I thought parabola linux is bare
tight like arch linux before.


From emulatorman at riseup.net  Thu Aug  6 15:52:00 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:52:00 -0300
Subject: [Dev] New mirror
In-Reply-To: <55C25FD6.6090709@riseup.net>
References: <1438731104.5095.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>
 <55C25C10.1010206@riseup.net> <55C25FD6.6090709@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <55C382A0.9020000@riseup.net>

On 08/05/2015 04:11 PM, Andr? Silva wrote:
> On 08/05/2015 03:55 PM, Andr? Silva wrote:
>> On 08/04/2015 08:31 PM, Isaac David wrote:
>>> # Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
>>> # Responsible: 4096R/33466E12EC7BA943 Isaac David
>>> <isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info>
>>> # Work hours: 00:00 UTC - 12:00 UTC weekdays, 24h weekends
>>>   Server = http://parabola.isacdaavid.info:8081/$repo/os/$arch
>>>
>>
>> ok, i'm adding it to parabola-mirrorlist, i let know when it's ready,
>> thanks :)
>>
> 
> s|parabola-mirrorlist|pacman-mirrorlist
> 

pushed

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From isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info  Thu Aug  6 18:02:05 2015
From: isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info (Isaac David)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:02:05 -0500
Subject: [Dev] New mirror
In-Reply-To: <55C382A0.9020000@riseup.net>
References: <1438731104.5095.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>
 <55C25C10.1010206@riseup.net> <55C25FD6.6090709@riseup.net>
 <55C382A0.9020000@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <1438884125.984.0@plebeian.isacdaavid.info>

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In my previous mail I actually specified a different work schedule, not 
24*7, but it may be OK to leave it 24*7.

Instead of shutting down the mirror service completely I have now set 
it up to throttle bandwidth down from 12:00 UTC to 00:00 UTC (same 
schedule I sent before), so users are able to download from this mirror 
all the time, albeit with some caveats.

Thanks for the inclusion!

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Le jeu. 6 ao?t 2015 ? 10:52, Andr? Silva <emulatorman at riseup.net> a 
?crit :
> On 08/05/2015 04:11 PM, Andr? Silva wrote:
>>  On 08/05/2015 03:55 PM, Andr? Silva wrote:
>>>  On 08/04/2015 08:31 PM, Isaac David wrote:
>>>>  # Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
>>>>  # Responsible: 4096R/33466E12EC7BA943 Isaac David
>>>>  <isacdaavid at isacdaavid.info>
>>>>  # Work hours: 00:00 UTC - 12:00 UTC weekdays, 24h weekends
>>>>    Server = http://parabola.isacdaavid.info:8081/$repo/os/$arch
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ok, i'm adding it to parabola-mirrorlist, i let know when it's 
>>> ready,
>>>  thanks :)
>>> 
>> 
>>  s|parabola-mirrorlist|pacman-mirrorlist
>> 
> 
> pushed
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
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From ebrasca.ebrasca at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 18:22:15 2015
From: ebrasca.ebrasca at gmail.com (ebrasca.ebrasca)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:22:15 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
Message-ID: <55C3A5D7.6040800@gmail.com>


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I can give access via SSH to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.

My internet speed are 250KiB/s down and 50KiB/s rise ( if hackers need I
can buy some more internet )

Happy hacking.
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From niitotantei at riseup.net  Fri Aug  7 08:37:11 2015
From: niitotantei at riseup.net (Daniel Milewski)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 10:37:11 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [PATCH] pacman-4.2.1-2.parabola2: convert cron job to
 systemd timer
In-Reply-To: <55B91034.4050005@riseup.net>
References: <1438184503.941.10.camel@riseup.net>
 <87k2tjrlwi.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> <55B91034.4050005@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <1438936631.959.13.camel@riseup.net>

> > pacman should depend on "cron" rather than just "cronie"... or it 
> > could
> > be an optional dependency (you have to enable the crond for it to 
> > work
> > no?)
> > 
> > where does the output of the timers go?
> > 
> > +1 to the timer and leave cron as optional dependency, i think 
> > there's
> > people that won't use timers but keep using cron.
> > 
> 
> +1

cron dependency only makes sense if the cron job is also installed, but
the current pacman version[1] doesn't bundle refresh-pacman-keys script
anymore (because my patch removed it.)

[1] https://projects.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/tree/libre/pacman

-- 
Daniel Milewski
GPG key ID: 8D43A4A1
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From nobody at parabola.nu  Fri Aug  7 16:09:02 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:09:02 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [iceweasel] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150807160902.426.20700@parabola.nu>

jdoe at example.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* iceweasel 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/iceweasel/
* iceweasel 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/iceweasel/
* iceweasel-debug 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/iceweasel-debug/
* iceweasel-debug 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/iceweasel-debug/


The user provided the following additional text:

The lastest version here (https://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel) is 39.0.3-1. This releases fixes a very serious vulnerability (https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/08/06/firefox-exploit-found-in-the-wild/).



From nobody at parabola.nu  Sun Aug  9 14:19:48 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 14:19:48 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [iceweasel-l10n-bg] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150809141948.320.50530@parabola.nu>

biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* iceweasel-l10n-ach 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ach/
* iceweasel-l10n-af 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-af/
* iceweasel-l10n-an 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-an/
* iceweasel-l10n-ar 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ar/
* iceweasel-l10n-as 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-as/
* iceweasel-l10n-ast 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ast/
* iceweasel-l10n-az 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-az/
* iceweasel-l10n-be 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-be/
* iceweasel-l10n-bg 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bg/
* iceweasel-l10n-bn-bd 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bn-bd/
* iceweasel-l10n-bn-in 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bn-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-br 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-br/
* iceweasel-l10n-bs 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bs/
* iceweasel-l10n-ca 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ca/
* iceweasel-l10n-cs 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-cs/
* iceweasel-l10n-csb 1:34.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-csb/
* iceweasel-l10n-cy 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-cy/
* iceweasel-l10n-da 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-da/
* iceweasel-l10n-de 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-de/
* iceweasel-l10n-dsb 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-dsb/
* iceweasel-l10n-el 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-el/
* iceweasel-l10n-en-gb 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-en-gb/
* iceweasel-l10n-en-za 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-en-za/
* iceweasel-l10n-eo 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-eo/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-ar 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-ar/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-cl 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-cl/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-es 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-es/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-mx 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-mx/
* iceweasel-l10n-et 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-et/
* iceweasel-l10n-eu 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-eu/
* iceweasel-l10n-fa 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fa/
* iceweasel-l10n-ff 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ff/
* iceweasel-l10n-fi 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fi/
* iceweasel-l10n-fr 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fr/
* iceweasel-l10n-fy-nl 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fy-nl/
* iceweasel-l10n-ga-ie 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ga-ie/
* iceweasel-l10n-gd 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-gd/
* iceweasel-l10n-gl 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-gl/
* iceweasel-l10n-gu-in 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-gu-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-he 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-he/
* iceweasel-l10n-hi-in 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hi-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-hr 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hr/
* iceweasel-l10n-hsb 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hsb/
* iceweasel-l10n-hu 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hu/
* iceweasel-l10n-hy-am 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hy-am/
* iceweasel-l10n-id 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-id/
* iceweasel-l10n-is 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-is/
* iceweasel-l10n-it 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-it/
* iceweasel-l10n-ja 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ja/
* iceweasel-l10n-kk 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-kk/
* iceweasel-l10n-km 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-km/
* iceweasel-l10n-kn 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-kn/
* iceweasel-l10n-ko 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ko/
* iceweasel-l10n-lij 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-lij/
* iceweasel-l10n-lt 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-lt/
* iceweasel-l10n-lv 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-lv/
* iceweasel-l10n-mai 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-mai/
* iceweasel-l10n-mk 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-mk/
* iceweasel-l10n-ml 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ml/
* iceweasel-l10n-mr 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-mr/
* iceweasel-l10n-ms 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ms/
* iceweasel-l10n-nb-no 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-nb-no/
* iceweasel-l10n-nl 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-nl/
* iceweasel-l10n-nn-no 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-nn-no/
* iceweasel-l10n-or 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-or/
* iceweasel-l10n-pa-in 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pa-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-pl 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pl/
* iceweasel-l10n-pt-br 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pt-br/
* iceweasel-l10n-pt-pt 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pt-pt/
* iceweasel-l10n-rm 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-rm/
* iceweasel-l10n-ro 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ro/
* iceweasel-l10n-ru 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ru/
* iceweasel-l10n-si 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-si/
* iceweasel-l10n-sk 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sk/
* iceweasel-l10n-sl 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sl/
* iceweasel-l10n-son 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-son/
* iceweasel-l10n-sq 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sq/
* iceweasel-l10n-sr 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sr/
* iceweasel-l10n-sv-se 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sv-se/
* iceweasel-l10n-ta 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ta/
* iceweasel-l10n-te 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-te/
* iceweasel-l10n-th 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-th/
* iceweasel-l10n-tr 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-tr/
* iceweasel-l10n-uk 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-uk/
* iceweasel-l10n-uz 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-uz/
* iceweasel-l10n-vi 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-vi/
* iceweasel-l10n-xh 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-xh/
* iceweasel-l10n-zh-cn 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-zh-cn/
* iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw 1:39.0.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw/
* iceweasel-l10n-zu 1:33.1.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-zu/


The user provided the following additional text:

Unmet dependencies with Iceweasel 39.3 (thank god that you managed to update al least those, it was a serious security breach)



From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sun Aug  9 15:27:03 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 12:27:03 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] Reproducible builds
Message-ID: <87pp2wo52w.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


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-------------------- Start of forwarded message --------------------
From: Allan McRae <allan at archlinux.org>
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +1000
Subject: [arch-dev-public] Reproducible builds

Hi all,

You might have read about Debian and Fedora (and others?) looking at
having all their builds reproducible - as in, everything will be exactly
the same if you rebuild the package:

https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds
https://securityblog.redhat.com/2013/09/18/reproducible-builds-for-fedora/

A bunch of people have approached me about this for Arch (I think there
is a bug report too).   My general opinion is that it will be very
difficult due to the rolling release nature of Arch. Updating the
toolchain, libraries, ..., all make this difficult.  There is potential
to regenerate the build environment to work around this, but that is
another story.

I made a small tool to build a package twice and compare the output
(md5sum).  I ran that over [core].   Here is a summary of the results:


Failed to build:
FAIL: acl - build failed
FAIL: attr - build failed
FAIL: binutils - build failed
FAIL: glibc - build failed
FAIL: grub - build failed
FAIL: iptables - build failed
FAIL: ipw2100-fw - build failed
FAIL: ipw2200-fw - build failed
FAIL: isdn4k-utils - build failed
FAIL: ldns - build failed
FAIL: libpcap - build failed
FAIL: lvm2 - build failed
FAIL: mkinitcpio - build failed
FAIL: openvpn - build failed
FAIL: perl - build failed
FAIL: pth - build failed
FAIL: syslinux - build failed
FAIL: reiserfsprogs - build failed

(not sure about binutils and glibc...  I built these two days ago!  So
there potential false positives among these.)



Builds are not reproducible:

FAIL: bison - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/liby.a: FAILED

FAIL: dbus - not reproducible
b2/usr/share/doc/dbus/dbus-test-plan.html: FAILED
b2/usr/share/doc/dbus/dbus-specification.html: FAILED
b2/usr/share/doc/dbus/dbus-faq.html: FAILED

FAIL: dnssec-anchors - not reproducible
b2/etc/trusted-key.key: FAILED

FAIL: e2fsprogs - not reproducible
b2/usr/share/info/libext2fs.info.gz: FAILED

FAIL: gcc - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libgolibbegin.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libstdc++.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libnetgo.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libgobegin.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libsupc++.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/libcaf_single.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/libgcc.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/cc1plus: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/cc1objplus: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/libgfortranbegin.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/cc1obj: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/libgcc_eh.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/libgcov.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/g-sercom.ali: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/s-stusta.ali: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/a-rttiev.ali: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/s-tposen.ali: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/s-taasde.ali: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/a-sytaco.ali: FAILED
<snip>
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/adalib/s-tarest.ali: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.2.0/cc1: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libiberty.a: FAILED

FAIL: gdbm - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libgdbm.so.4.0.0: FAILED

FAIL: glib2 - not reproducible
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/codegen_main.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/__init__.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/codegen.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/config.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/codegen_main.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/parser.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/codegen_docbook.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/dbustypes.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/config.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/utils.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/utils.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/__init__.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/codegen_docbook.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/codegen.pyo: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/parser.pyc: FAILED
b2/usr/share/glib-2.0/codegen/dbustypes.pyc: FAILED

FAIL: gnutls - not reproducible
b2/usr/share/man/man1/ocsptool.1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/man/man1/gnutls-cli.1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/man/man1/gnutls-cli-debug.1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/man/man1/tpmtool.1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/man/man1/p11tool.1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/man/man1/srptool.1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/man/man1/gnutls-serv.1.gz: FAILED
<snip>
b2/usr/share/man/man3/gnutls_ocsp_resp_get_extension.3.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info-2.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls-guile.info.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info-3.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info-4.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info-1.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info-6.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info-5.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/share/info/gnutls.info.gz: FAILED

FAIL: iproute2 - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libnetlink.a: FAILED

FAIL: links - not reproducible
b2/usr/bin/links: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/xlinks: FAILED

FAIL: linux - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/modules/4.1.4-1-ARCH/build/include/generated/compile.h: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/4.1.4-1-ARCH/build/vmlinux: FAILED
b2/boot/vmlinuz-linux: FAILED

FAIL: linux-lts - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/build/include/generated/compile.h: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/build/vmlinux: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/security/keys/trusted.ko.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/security/keys/encrypted-keys/encrypted-keys.ko.gz:
FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/net/xfrm/xfrm_algo.ko.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/net/xfrm/xfrm_user.ko.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/net/xfrm/xfrm_ipcomp.ko.gz: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/net/packet/af_packet_diag.ko.gz:
FAILED
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/net/core/netprio_cgroup.ko.gz:
FAILED
<snip>
b2/usr/lib/modules/3.14.49-1-lts/kernel/kernel/trace/ring_buffer_benchmark.ko.gz:
FAILED
b2/boot/vmlinuz-linux-lts: FAILED

FAIL: man-db - not reproducible
b2/usr/share/doc/man-db/man-db-manual.ps: FAILED

FAIL: mkinitcpio-busybox - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/initcpio/busybox: FAILED

FAIL: nspr - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libnspr4.so: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libplc4.so: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libplds4.so: FAILED

FAIL: nss - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libnss3.so: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libsoftokn3.so: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libfreebl3.chk: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libnssdbm3.chk: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libcrmf.a: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libsoftokn3.chk: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libssl3.so: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libfreebl3.so: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/libsmime3.so: FAILED

FAIL: openldap - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/slapd: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapmodrdn: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapexop: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapcompare: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapdelete: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldappasswd: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapsearch: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapwhoami: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapmodify: FAILED
b2/usr/bin/ldapurl: FAILED

FAIL: readline - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libreadline.so.6.3: FAILED

FAIL: sudo - not reproducible
b2/usr/bin/visudo: FAILED

FAIL: systemd - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd.debug: FAILED
b2/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd: FAILED
b2/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy: FAILED
b2/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.import1.policy: FAILED

FAIL: util-linux - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/libmount/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-34.pyc:
FAILED
b2/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/libmount/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-34.pyo:
FAILED

FAIL: zlib - not reproducible
b2/usr/lib/libz.a: FAILED


Most of these look like timestamp issues (static libraries have a
timestamp, documentation generated with tools that leave a timestamp,
etc).  Some confuse me...  I have not investigated them all.


Anyway, this is more of a discussion point rather than something I see
we should be perusing.  We don't have the resources that either Debian
or Fedora do, and hopefully their efforts head upstream. However, I am
not going to object if a community group wants to take this and see if
they can improve the situation.

Allan
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From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 22:48:06 2015
From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:48:06 +0700
Subject: [Dev] suggest
Message-ID: <CAKpbLoYVRSFjRD_iKSG+yPrm+biOcTrUJ=qbm=hsveh285pfFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi parabola hacker. how about a scheduled mail digest in certain  time
like hour,day,or week so we can predic upcoming email. can we make it
?


From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Mon Aug 10 16:36:38 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:36:38 +0200
Subject: [Dev] suggest
In-Reply-To: <CAKpbLoYVRSFjRD_iKSG+yPrm+biOcTrUJ=qbm=hsveh285pfFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 (Dika Setya Prayogi's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:48:06 +0700")
References: <CAKpbLoYVRSFjRD_iKSG+yPrm+biOcTrUJ=qbm=hsveh285pfFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87y4hjt815.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> Hi parabola hacker. how about a scheduled mail digest in certain  time
> like hour,day,or week so we can predic upcoming email. can we make it

Mailman's digest option is not sufficient?
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From elcorreo at deshackra.com  Tue Aug 11 05:03:51 2015
From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 23:03:51 -0600
Subject: [Dev] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] Reproducible builds
In-Reply-To: <87pp2wo52w.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
References: <87pp2wo52w.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <87y4his9fs.fsf@abril.charola>

They basically wants to replicate GNU Guix!

El domingo 09 de agosto del 2015 a las 0927 horas, fauno escribi?:


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 ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
 EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor in Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
 EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
https://es.gravatar.com/shackra


From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Wed Aug 12 15:05:41 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:05:41 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] News item for openssh-7.0p1-1
Message-ID: <87y4hgim2i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:03:59 +0900
From: Gaetan Bisson <bisson at archlinux.org>
Subject: [arch-dev-public] News item for openssh-7.0p1-1

Hi,

I'd like to suggest the following piece of news to be posted when
openssh-7.0p1-1 lands in [core]:


The new openssh-7.0p1 release deprecates certain types of SSH keys that
are now considered vulnerable. For details, see the
[upstream announcement](http://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-announce/2015-August/000122.html).

Before updating and restarting sshd on remote hosts, if you rely on SSH
keys for authentication, please make sure that you have a recent key
pair set up, or alternative means of logging in (such as using password
authentication).


-- 
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From nobody at parabola.nu  Wed Aug 12 16:45:40 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:45:40 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [linux-libre-api-headers] marked
	out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150812164540.322.82541@parabola.nu>

biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* linux-libre-api-headers 4.0_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-api-headers/
* linux-libre-api-headers 4.0_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-api-headers/


The user provided the following additional text:

resolving dependencies...
warning: cannot resolve "linux-api-headers>=4.1", a dependency of "glibc"
warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.22", a dependency of "binutils"
warning: cannot resolve "linux-api-headers>=4.1", a dependency of "glibc"
warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.22", a dependency of "gcc-libs"
warning: cannot resolve "gcc-libs=5.2.0-2", a dependency of "gcc"
warning: cannot resolve "linux-api-headers>=4.1", a dependency of "glibc"
warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.22", a dependency of "binutils"
warning: cannot resolve "linux-api-headers>=4.1", a dependency of "glibc"
warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.22", a dependency of "gcc-libs"
warning: cannot resolve "linux-api-headers>=4.1", a dependency of "glibc"
:: The following packages cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
      binutils  gcc  gcc-libs  glibc

:: Do you want to skip the above packages for this upgrade? [y/N] n
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: glibc: requires linux-api-headers>=4.1
:: binutils: requires glibc>=2.22
:: glibc: requires linux-api-headers>=4.1
:: gcc-libs: requires glibc>=2.22
:: gcc: requires gcc-libs=5.2.0-2
:: glibc: requires linux-api-headers>=4.1
:: binutils: requires glibc>=2.22
:: glibc: requires linux-api-headers>=4.1
:: gcc-libs: requires glibc>=2.22
:: glibc: requires linux-api-headers>=4.1




From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Wed Aug 12 17:35:57 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:35:57 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [linux-libre-api-headers]
	marked	out-of-date
In-Reply-To: <20150812164540.322.82541@parabola.nu>
References: <20150812164540.322.82541@parabola.nu>
Message-ID: <87vbckif42.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Parabola Website Notification <nobody at parabola.nu> writes:

> biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:
>
>
> * linux-libre-api-headers 4.0_gnu-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/linux-libre-api-headers/
> * linux-libre-api-headers 4.0_gnu-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/linux-libre-api-headers/
>
>
> The user provided the following additional text:
>
> resolving dependencies...
> warning: cannot resolve "linux-api-headers>=4.1", a dependency of "glibc"

i'm on it

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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Wed Aug 12 21:21:55 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:21:55 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <55C3A5D7.6040800@gmail.com>
References: <55C3A5D7.6040800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <874mk4i4ng.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

"ebrasca.ebrasca" <ebrasca.ebrasca at gmail.com> writes:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA256
>
> I can give access via SSH to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.
>
> My internet speed are 250KiB/s down and 50KiB/s rise ( if hackers need I
> can buy some more internet )

should i create a project on labs.parabola.nu?

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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Wed Aug 12 22:13:51 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:13:51 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <874mk4i4ng.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
References: <55C3A5D7.6040800@gmail.com> <874mk4i4ng.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <55CBC51F.1000905@riseup.net>

On 08/12/2015 06:21 PM, fauno wrote:
> "ebrasca.ebrasca" <ebrasca.ebrasca at gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA256
>>
>> I can give access via SSH to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.
>>
>> My internet speed are 250KiB/s down and 50KiB/s rise ( if hackers need I
>> can buy some more internet )
> 
> should i create a project on labs.parabola.nu?
> 

I think we did it [0], maybe we should create a new one for
projects.parabola.nu

[0]:https://labs.parabola.nu/projects/arm-port

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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Wed Aug 12 22:18:54 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:18:54 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [ARM] Parabola ARM Port progress
In-Reply-To: <55CBC51F.1000905@riseup.net>
References: <55C3A5D7.6040800@gmail.com> <874mk4i4ng.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
 <55CBC51F.1000905@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <87wpx0gng1.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Andr? Silva <emulatorman at riseup.net> writes:

> On 08/12/2015 06:21 PM, fauno wrote:
>> "ebrasca.ebrasca" <ebrasca.ebrasca at gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA256
>>>
>>> I can give access via SSH to the hackers use it for testing and debugging.
>>>
>>> My internet speed are 250KiB/s down and 50KiB/s rise ( if hackers need I
>>> can buy some more internet )
>> 
>> should i create a project on labs.parabola.nu?
>> 
>
> I think we did it [0], maybe we should create a new one for
> projects.parabola.nu
>
> [0]:https://labs.parabola.nu/projects/arm-port

oops i didn't see it

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From nobody at parabola.nu  Wed Aug 12 23:35:24 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:35:24 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [iceweasel] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150812233524.320.59479@parabola.nu>

biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* iceweasel 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/iceweasel/
* iceweasel 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/iceweasel/
* iceweasel-debug 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/iceweasel-debug/
* iceweasel-debug 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/iceweasel-debug/


The user provided the following additional text:

https://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel



From nobody at parabola.nu  Wed Aug 12 23:36:09 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:36:09 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [iceweasel-l10n-en-gb] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150812233609.320.19590@parabola.nu>

biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* iceweasel-l10n-ach 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ach/
* iceweasel-l10n-af 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-af/
* iceweasel-l10n-an 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-an/
* iceweasel-l10n-ar 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ar/
* iceweasel-l10n-as 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-as/
* iceweasel-l10n-ast 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ast/
* iceweasel-l10n-az 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-az/
* iceweasel-l10n-be 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-be/
* iceweasel-l10n-bg 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bg/
* iceweasel-l10n-bn-bd 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bn-bd/
* iceweasel-l10n-bn-in 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bn-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-br 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-br/
* iceweasel-l10n-bs 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-bs/
* iceweasel-l10n-ca 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ca/
* iceweasel-l10n-cs 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-cs/
* iceweasel-l10n-cy 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-cy/
* iceweasel-l10n-da 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-da/
* iceweasel-l10n-de 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-de/
* iceweasel-l10n-dsb 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-dsb/
* iceweasel-l10n-el 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-el/
* iceweasel-l10n-en-gb 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-en-gb/
* iceweasel-l10n-en-za 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-en-za/
* iceweasel-l10n-eo 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-eo/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-ar 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-ar/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-cl 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-cl/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-es 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-es/
* iceweasel-l10n-es-mx 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-es-mx/
* iceweasel-l10n-et 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-et/
* iceweasel-l10n-eu 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-eu/
* iceweasel-l10n-fa 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fa/
* iceweasel-l10n-ff 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ff/
* iceweasel-l10n-fi 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fi/
* iceweasel-l10n-fr 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fr/
* iceweasel-l10n-fy-nl 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-fy-nl/
* iceweasel-l10n-ga-ie 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ga-ie/
* iceweasel-l10n-gd 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-gd/
* iceweasel-l10n-gl 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-gl/
* iceweasel-l10n-gu-in 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-gu-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-he 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-he/
* iceweasel-l10n-hi-in 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hi-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-hr 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hr/
* iceweasel-l10n-hsb 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hsb/
* iceweasel-l10n-hu 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hu/
* iceweasel-l10n-hy-am 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-hy-am/
* iceweasel-l10n-id 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-id/
* iceweasel-l10n-is 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-is/
* iceweasel-l10n-it 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-it/
* iceweasel-l10n-ja 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ja/
* iceweasel-l10n-kk 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-kk/
* iceweasel-l10n-km 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-km/
* iceweasel-l10n-kn 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-kn/
* iceweasel-l10n-ko 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ko/
* iceweasel-l10n-lij 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-lij/
* iceweasel-l10n-lt 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-lt/
* iceweasel-l10n-lv 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-lv/
* iceweasel-l10n-mai 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-mai/
* iceweasel-l10n-mk 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-mk/
* iceweasel-l10n-ml 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ml/
* iceweasel-l10n-mr 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-mr/
* iceweasel-l10n-ms 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ms/
* iceweasel-l10n-nb-no 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-nb-no/
* iceweasel-l10n-nl 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-nl/
* iceweasel-l10n-nn-no 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-nn-no/
* iceweasel-l10n-or 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-or/
* iceweasel-l10n-pa-in 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pa-in/
* iceweasel-l10n-pl 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pl/
* iceweasel-l10n-pt-br 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pt-br/
* iceweasel-l10n-pt-pt 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-pt-pt/
* iceweasel-l10n-rm 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-rm/
* iceweasel-l10n-ro 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ro/
* iceweasel-l10n-ru 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ru/
* iceweasel-l10n-si 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-si/
* iceweasel-l10n-sk 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sk/
* iceweasel-l10n-sl 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sl/
* iceweasel-l10n-son 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-son/
* iceweasel-l10n-sq 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sq/
* iceweasel-l10n-sr 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sr/
* iceweasel-l10n-sv-se 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-sv-se/
* iceweasel-l10n-ta 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-ta/
* iceweasel-l10n-te 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-te/
* iceweasel-l10n-th 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-th/
* iceweasel-l10n-tr 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-tr/
* iceweasel-l10n-uk 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-uk/
* iceweasel-l10n-uz 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-uz/
* iceweasel-l10n-vi 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-vi/
* iceweasel-l10n-xh 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-xh/
* iceweasel-l10n-zh-cn 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-zh-cn/
* iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw 1:39.0.3.deb1-1 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw/


The user provided the following additional text:

https://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel



From nicolasmaia at tutanota.com  Thu Aug 13 14:59:34 2015
From: nicolasmaia at tutanota.com (nicolasmaia at tutanota.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:59:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Dev] Iceweasel location provider
Message-ID: <JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com>

Hi there! I suggest replacing Google's location API for Mozilla's, for 
privacy reasons.

It's a simple about:config tweak that can be made standard: 
https://location.services.mozilla.com/apps

Cheers
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Thu Aug 13 16:03:57 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:03:57 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Iceweasel location provider
In-Reply-To: <JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com> (nicolasmaia@tutanota.com's message
 of "Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:59:34 +0000 (UTC)")
References: <JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <87io8jxjiq.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> Hi there! I suggest replacing Google's location API for Mozilla's, for
> privacy reasons.

What privacy implications it has other than changing which company
provides the data?
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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Thu Aug 13 16:28:04 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:28:04 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [iceweasel] make searx the default search engine
Message-ID: <87y4hff90r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


hey, i've been using searx[^0] for a few weeks and it works really well
(at least the quadrature du net's instance[^1]).  given that it's free
software[^2] i'm propposing to make it the default search engine,
instead of duckduckgo or whatever we have nowadays.

i believe we already have it on our search engines, it'd just be a
matter of making it the default.

what do you think?


[^0]: https://github.com/asciimoo/searx
[^1]: https://searx.laquadrature.net
[^2]: https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/blob/master/LICENSE

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From nicolasmaia at tutanota.com  Thu Aug 13 16:29:51 2015
From: nicolasmaia at tutanota.com (nicolasmaia at tutanota.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:29:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Dev] Iceweasel location provider
In-Reply-To: <87io8jxjiq.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>
References: <JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com> <<JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com>
 (nicolasmaia@tutanota.com's message
 of "Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:59:34 +0000 (UTC)")> <87io8jxjiq.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>
Message-ID: <JwbtLvT----0@tutanota.com>

Yes, ideally it would be turned off for maximum privacy, but since that would 
imply loss of functionality, moving from Google to Mozilla would be a 
harmless transition. Google is knowingly a part of PRISM, while Mozilla, a 
nonprofit, has repeatedly made a point on protecting user privacy.


13. Ago 2015 13:03 por mtjm at mtjm.eu:


>> Hi there! I suggest replacing Google's location API for Mozilla's, for
>> privacy reasons.
>
> What privacy implications it has other than changing which company
> provides the data?
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Thu Aug 13 16:50:57 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:50:57 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Iceweasel location provider
In-Reply-To: <JwbtLvT----0@tutanota.com> (nicolasmaia@tutanota.com's message
 of "Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:29:51 +0000 (UTC)")
References: <JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com> <JwbZgJi----0@tutanota.com>
 <87io8jxjiq.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <JwbtLvT----0@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <87egj7xhce.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> Yes, ideally it would be turned off for maximum privacy, but since
> that would imply loss of functionality,

But it's already optional and users have to agree to use it?

> moving from Google to Mozilla
> would be a harmless transition.

They have different location data, so users will get different
results.  (I don't know if better or worse.)

> Google is knowingly a part of PRISM,
> while Mozilla, a nonprofit, has repeatedly made a point on protecting
> user privacy.

There is also Mozilla, the for-profit company.  (I don't read here much
about them other than supporting nonfree software and DRM.)

If we decide to choose it, we need to get an API key for Parabola.
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From icarious at hacari.org  Fri Aug 14 02:02:30 2015
From: icarious at hacari.org (Icarious)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:32:30 +0530
Subject: [Dev] [iceweasel] make searx the default search engine
In-Reply-To: <87y4hff90r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
References: <87y4hff90r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <20150814073230.da920017a695e89ebf5360f9@hacari.org>

> hey, i've been using searx[^0] for a few weeks and it works really well
> (at least the quadrature du net's instance[^1]).  given that it's free
> software[^2] i'm propposing to make it the default search engine,
> instead of duckduckgo or whatever we have nowadays.
> 
> i believe we already have it on our search engines, it'd just be a
> matter of making it the default.
> 
> what do you think?

+1. Although I don't know why other searx instances don't work for you :S. Anyways, we should make it the default given the server side code is free for anyone to run.

-- 
Icarious
GPG Public Key : 0x4428BA28AA2ACCD2
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From g4jc at openmailbox.org  Fri Aug 14 13:10:17 2015
From: g4jc at openmailbox.org (Luke)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:10:17 -0400
Subject: [Dev] [iceweasel] make searx the default search engine
In-Reply-To: <20150814073230.da920017a695e89ebf5360f9@hacari.org>
References: <87y4hff90r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
 <20150814073230.da920017a695e89ebf5360f9@hacari.org>
Message-ID: <55CDE8B9.20004@openmailbox.org>

On 08/13/2015 10:02 PM, Icarious wrote:
>> hey, i've been using searx[^0] for a few weeks and it works really well
>> (at least the quadrature du net's instance[^1]).  given that it's free
>> software[^2] i'm propposing to make it the default search engine,
>> instead of duckduckgo or whatever we have nowadays.
>>
>> i believe we already have it on our search engines, it'd just be a
>> matter of making it the default.
>>
>> what do you think?
> +1. Although I don't know why other searx instances don't work for you :S. Anyways, we should make it the default given the server side code is free for anyone to run.
>
I think this is a good idea as well, but suggest hosting our own node.
In this way we could harden it a bit more than the current one. e.g.
Default to DDG/StartPage/IXQuick, force image proxy instead of linking
to Bing/Google Images (which track IP), and use CACert for HTTPS over nginx.

I may be able to provide a host for one if this is deemed a good idea, I
was actually experimenting with Searx a few weeks back already and it's
not too difficult to deploy.


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From icarious at hacari.org  Fri Aug 14 14:40:53 2015
From: icarious at hacari.org (Icarious)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:10:53 +0530
Subject: [Dev] [iceweasel] make searx the default search engine
In-Reply-To: <55CDE8B9.20004@openmailbox.org>
References: <87y4hff90r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
 <20150814073230.da920017a695e89ebf5360f9@hacari.org>
 <55CDE8B9.20004@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20150814201053.e49dde2d5afb8be3822d6b74@hacari.org>

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:10:17 -0400
Luke <g4jc at openmailbox.org> wrote:

> On 08/13/2015 10:02 PM, Icarious wrote:
> >> hey, i've been using searx[^0] for a few weeks and it works really well
> >> (at least the quadrature du net's instance[^1]).  given that it's free
> >> software[^2] i'm propposing to make it the default search engine,
> >> instead of duckduckgo or whatever we have nowadays.
> >>
> >> i believe we already have it on our search engines, it'd just be a
> >> matter of making it the default.
> >>
> >> what do you think?
> > +1. Although I don't know why other searx instances don't work for you :S. Anyways, we should make it the default given the server side code is free for anyone to run.
> >
> I think this is a good idea as well, but suggest hosting our own node.
> In this way we could harden it a bit more than the current one. e.g.
> Default to DDG/StartPage/IXQuick, force image proxy instead of linking
> to Bing/Google Images (which track IP), and use CACert for HTTPS over nginx.
> 
> I may be able to provide a host for one if this is deemed a good idea, I
> was actually experimenting with Searx a few weeks back already and it's
> not too difficult to deploy.
> 
> 

+1. I think its a good idea. Using Google / Bing makes no sense cause the searx node can simply use startpage/ ixquick for such searches offering a double layer of proxy. +1 for image proxy and CACert with High Grade HTTPS + PFS over nginx. We already include CaCert with our distribution so if it is technologically feasible (space + bandwidth), we could simply setup our own pod and make icecat/ iceweasel default to it : ).  


-- 
Icarious
GPG Public Key : 0x4428BA28AA2ACCD2
GPG Fingerprint : 6C37 E88E DD0B F042 7A15  676E 4428 BA28 AA2A CCD2
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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Fri Aug 14 23:54:30 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:54:30 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [iceweasel] make searx the default search engine
In-Reply-To: <20150814201053.e49dde2d5afb8be3822d6b74@hacari.org>
References: <87y4hff90r.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
 <20150814073230.da920017a695e89ebf5360f9@hacari.org>
 <55CDE8B9.20004@openmailbox.org>
 <20150814201053.e49dde2d5afb8be3822d6b74@hacari.org>
Message-ID: <55CE7FB6.5090406@riseup.net>

On 08/14/2015 11:40 AM, Icarious wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:10:17 -0400
> Luke <g4jc at openmailbox.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 08/13/2015 10:02 PM, Icarious wrote:
>>>> hey, i've been using searx[^0] for a few weeks and it works really well
>>>> (at least the quadrature du net's instance[^1]).  given that it's free
>>>> software[^2] i'm propposing to make it the default search engine,
>>>> instead of duckduckgo or whatever we have nowadays.
>>>>
>>>> i believe we already have it on our search engines, it'd just be a
>>>> matter of making it the default.
>>>>
>>>> what do you think?
>>> +1. Although I don't know why other searx instances don't work for you :S. Anyways, we should make it the default given the server side code is free for anyone to run.
>>>
>> I think this is a good idea as well, but suggest hosting our own node.
>> In this way we could harden it a bit more than the current one. e.g.
>> Default to DDG/StartPage/IXQuick, force image proxy instead of linking
>> to Bing/Google Images (which track IP), and use CACert for HTTPS over nginx.
>>
>> I may be able to provide a host for one if this is deemed a good idea, I
>> was actually experimenting with Searx a few weeks back already and it's
>> not too difficult to deploy.
>>
>>
> 
> +1. I think its a good idea. Using Google / Bing makes no sense cause the searx node can simply use startpage/ ixquick for such searches offering a double layer of proxy. +1 for image proxy and CACert with High Grade HTTPS + PFS over nginx. We already include CaCert with our distribution so if it is technologically feasible (space + bandwidth), we could simply setup our own pod and make icecat/ iceweasel default to it : ).  
> 
> 

I added searx as the default search engine to iceweasel-1:40.0.deb1-2 [0]

[0]:https://projects.parabola.nu/abslibre.git/commit/?id=563db00ef970e5793bd0f709ddb77607b368bc06

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From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 15 06:46:36 2015
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 00:46:36 -0600
Subject: [Dev] Turned off rsyncd.service on parabola.nu
Message-ID: <87h9o1calv.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

Howdy,

Somehow rsyncd.service and rsyncd.socket were both running on
parabola.nu; this shouldn't happen as they Conflict= with each other.
I've `systemctl stop`ed the .service, as only the .socket is enabled
in /etc.

Just FYI.

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke


From janprunk at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 18:12:17 2015
From: janprunk at gmail.com (Jan Prunk)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:12:17 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Slovenian mirror offer
Message-ID: <CALnoPX6ZG5CnMfGMvjvbm+PVaBbkGLO2V-B9g6C1SvGxXaFtFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello !

I would like to offer a mirror for Parabola in Slovenia on a 100/100 Mbit
link.
Where could I get more information about the mirroring procedure ?
I am also interested how much data currently has the mirror ?

Kind regards,
Jan
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sat Aug 15 18:55:09 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:55:09 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Slovenian mirror offer
In-Reply-To: <CALnoPX6ZG5CnMfGMvjvbm+PVaBbkGLO2V-B9g6C1SvGxXaFtFA@mail.gmail.com>
 (Jan Prunk's message of "Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:12:17 +0200")
References: <CALnoPX6ZG5CnMfGMvjvbm+PVaBbkGLO2V-B9g6C1SvGxXaFtFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87lhdcidpu.fsf@ecthelion.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> Where could I get more information about the mirroring procedure ?

rsync from a mirror; I don't know any up to date documentation.

> I am also interested how much data currently has the mirror ?

80 GiB, it grows since old packages are remove at most once per two
weeks.  (The filesystem has size of 150 GiB, 122 GiB being used now.)

Questions for Parabola developers:

- do we know how much bandwidth existing mirrors use and how much is
  used to sync them?

- can we remove the static mirror list file?
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From nobody at parabola.nu  Sun Aug 16 22:29:12 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:29:12 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [popcorntime] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150816222912.1438.17368@parabola.nu>

elcorreo at deshackra.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* popcorntime 0.3.7.2-1.1 [pcr] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/i686/popcorntime/
* popcorntime 0.3.7.2-1.1 [pcr] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/x86_64/popcorntime/


The user provided the following additional text:

a new version is out



From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 17 16:28:05 2015
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:28:05 -0600
Subject: [Dev] Slovenian mirror offer
In-Reply-To: <87lhdcidpu.fsf@ecthelion.vpn.mtjm.eu>
References: <CALnoPX6ZG5CnMfGMvjvbm+PVaBbkGLO2V-B9g6C1SvGxXaFtFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <87lhdcidpu.fsf@ecthelion.vpn.mtjm.eu>
Message-ID: <87d1yldgmi.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:55:09 -0600,
Micha? Mas?owski wrote:
> > I am also interested how much data currently has the mirror ?
> 
> 80 GiB, it grows since old packages are remove at most once per two
> weeks.  (The filesystem has size of 150 GiB, 122 GiB being used now.)

(the other 42GiB is the Postgres & MySQL databases, git repos, mailing
list archives, Redmine/MediaWiki/ParabolaWeb installs, and "backups" of
certain things from previous servers)

-- 
~ Luke


From nobody at parabola.nu  Mon Aug 17 20:36:16 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:36:16 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [pandoc-static] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150817203616.3126.78173@parabola.nu>

renato.coutinho at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* pandoc-static 1.15.0.6-1 [pcr] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/i686/pandoc-static/
* pandoc-static 1.15.0.4-1 [pcr] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/x86_64/pandoc-static/


The user provided the following additional text:

The x86_64 is still out-of-date, although the i686 package has been updated a month ago.



From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 22:31:54 2015
From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:31:54 +0700
Subject: [Dev] no update
Message-ID: <CAKpbLoaE5Y=1q2WAjA5Pc3a99SzODNp_3KYEN4UBTs5mYhwdrA@mail.gmail.com>

there is no update for parabola linux more than three days, what happen ?


From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Tue Aug 18 22:34:48 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:34:48 -0300
Subject: [Dev] no update
In-Reply-To: <CAKpbLoaE5Y=1q2WAjA5Pc3a99SzODNp_3KYEN4UBTs5mYhwdrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKpbLoaE5Y=1q2WAjA5Pc3a99SzODNp_3KYEN4UBTs5mYhwdrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87lhd8i5tj.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Dika Setya Prayogi <dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com> writes:

> there is no update for parabola linux more than three days, what happen ?
> _______________________________________________

try changing your mirror on /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, we don't control
if mirrors are up to date or not (should we?)

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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Wed Aug 19 06:00:14 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:00:14 +0200
Subject: [Dev] no update
In-Reply-To: <87lhd8i5tj.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> (fauno@endefensadelsl.org's
 message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:34:48 -0300")
References: <CAKpbLoaE5Y=1q2WAjA5Pc3a99SzODNp_3KYEN4UBTs5mYhwdrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <87lhd8i5tj.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <874mjvizrl.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

>> there is no update for parabola linux more than three days, what happen ?
>> _______________________________________________
>
> try changing your mirror on /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, we don't control
> if mirrors are up to date or not (should we?)

We provide /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and get questions and bug reports
for already fixed problems.  So we should fix it.  (Updating the package
providing the mirrorlist when the primary mirror is outdated is not a
solution.)

https://www.parabola.nu/mirrors/status/ and my mirror checking script
show that there are no outdated mirrors, only dgix.ru is not available.
(Many other mirrors are IPv4-only, but this probably isn't the problem.)

Please post your /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.
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From nobody at parabola.nu  Sat Aug 22 07:17:57 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:17:57 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [packer] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150822071757.407.78885@parabola.nu>

biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* packer 20140817-1 [pcr] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/any/packer/


The user provided the following additional text:

https://github.com/keenerd/packer



From nobody at parabola.nu  Sat Aug 22 15:12:25 2015
From: nobody at parabola.nu (Parabola Website Notification)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:12:25 -0000
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [terasology] marked out-of-date
Message-ID: <20150822151225.1751.76241@parabola.nu>

ingegnue at riseup.net wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:


* terasology 53-1 [pcr] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/i686/terasology/
* terasology 53-1 [pcr] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/x86_64/terasology/


The user provided the following additional text:

new version is 54

https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/issues/1897#issuecomment-131674124



From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sun Aug 23 01:06:56 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:06:56 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Orphan Pcr package [packer] marked out-of-date
In-Reply-To: <20150822071757.407.78885@parabola.nu>
References: <20150822071757.407.78885@parabola.nu>
Message-ID: <87zj1iak3z.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


isn't packer an aur helper? why do we provide it?

Parabola Website Notification <nobody at parabola.nu> writes:

> biserangeloff at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date:
>
>
> * packer 20140817-1 [pcr] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/pcr/any/packer/
>
>
> The user provided the following additional text:
>
> https://github.com/keenerd/packer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev

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From g4jc at openmailbox.org  Sun Aug 23 03:35:48 2015
From: g4jc at openmailbox.org (Luke)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 23:35:48 -0400
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
Message-ID: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>

Hello Everyone,
After it was brought to our attention yesterday that RNC patches which
are required for the kernel to run on ARM computers contain blobs, we
had to cancel the Parabola ARM project. Emulatorman confirmed this and
deleted the git repository for the project.

You can read more information about blobs on ARM devices here:
https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers   

These boards, including Raspberry Pi, actually REQUIRE the blobs in
order to boot. Therefore until a blob-free board is available, we are
unable to continue our work. This is unfortunate, but the current
situation of hardware doesn't allow a true GNU/Linux-libre kernel.

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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sun Aug 23 03:47:34 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:47:34 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org> (Luke's message of "Sat, 22
 Aug 2015 23:35:48 -0400")
References: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>

> RNC patches which
> are required for the kernel to run on ARM computers

Not true.

> You can read more information about blobs on ARM devices here:
> https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers   

We support x86 while many systems there need blobs for optional graphics
acceleration, and nearly all have nonfree boot firmware.

> These boards, including Raspberry Pi, actually REQUIRE the blobs in
> order to boot. Therefore until a blob-free board is available, we are
> unable to continue our work. This is unfortunate, but the current
> situation of hardware doesn't allow a true GNU/Linux-libre kernel.

Boards using TI or AllWinner SoCs don't have such blobs.  Please list
specific blobs which are the issue.

(For AM335x used in BeagleBone Black, there is a small power management
firmware under a nonfree license, but the SoC documentation suggests it
being needed only for suspend to RAM which I don't believe is normally
useful on that board.  Regardless of this, that firmware looks easy to
replace.)
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From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 11:44:28 2015
From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:44:28 +0100
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>
References: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>
 <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu>
Message-ID: <55D9B21C.3070403@gmail.com>

On 23/08/15 04:47, Micha? Mas?owski wrote:
>> RNC patches which
>> are required for the kernel to run on ARM computers
>
> Not true.
>
>> You can read more information about blobs on ARM devices here:
>> https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
>
> We support x86 while many systems there need blobs for optional graphics
> acceleration, and nearly all have nonfree boot firmware.
>
>> These boards, including Raspberry Pi, actually REQUIRE the blobs in
>> order to boot. Therefore until a blob-free board is available, we are
>> unable to continue our work. This is unfortunate, but the current
>> situation of hardware doesn't allow a true GNU/Linux-libre kernel.
>
> Boards using TI or AllWinner SoCs don't have such blobs.  Please list
> specific blobs which are the issue.
>
> (For AM335x used in BeagleBone Black, there is a small power management
> firmware under a nonfree license, but the SoC documentation suggests it
> being needed only for suspend to RAM which I don't believe is normally
> useful on that board.  Regardless of this, that firmware looks easy to
> replace.)

+1

I have the olinuxino-lime which has a AllWinner A10 chip and it uses 
u-boot, and framebuffer, so theoretically there would be no blobs. At 
the moment it runs arch linux arm, but I would prefer parabola.

>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
>



From g4jc at openmailbox.org  Sun Aug 23 13:14:11 2015
From: g4jc at openmailbox.org (Luke)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:14:11 -0400
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <55D9B21C.3070403@gmail.com>
References: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>
 <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <55D9B21C.3070403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org>

The two test boards provided were Beaglebone and Raspberry Pi. If
someone is willing to donate a board which is capable of booting without
blobs this project could be re-launched. I backed my work (e.g.
mplayer-libre), prior to the git removal.

My current plan is to free several packages on my personal git and wait
until a board comes along which is cable of running a fully free kernel
that we can make tests on. Then this could continue at a later date.

If you are willing to donate the All Winner, it may be worth testing.
Ask Emulatorman if he can share his latest PKGBUILD of linux-libre with
you. However be aware that if it requires a blob you might be left with
a non-usable device. Make backups of the current SDCard.

I do not have the full list of blobs, Emulatorman mentioned several in
the IRC which were required for the two previous boards to operate.


On 08/23/2015 07:44 AM, Josh Branning wrote:
> On 23/08/15 04:47, Micha? Mas?owski wrote:
>>> RNC patches which
>>> are required for the kernel to run on ARM computers
>>
>> Not true.
>>
>>> You can read more information about blobs on ARM devices here:
>>> https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
>>
>> We support x86 while many systems there need blobs for optional graphics
>> acceleration, and nearly all have nonfree boot firmware.
>>
>>> These boards, including Raspberry Pi, actually REQUIRE the blobs in
>>> order to boot. Therefore until a blob-free board is available, we are
>>> unable to continue our work. This is unfortunate, but the current
>>> situation of hardware doesn't allow a true GNU/Linux-libre kernel.
>>
>> Boards using TI or AllWinner SoCs don't have such blobs.  Please list
>> specific blobs which are the issue.
>>
>> (For AM335x used in BeagleBone Black, there is a small power management
>> firmware under a nonfree license, but the SoC documentation suggests it
>> being needed only for suspend to RAM which I don't believe is normally
>> useful on that board.  Regardless of this, that firmware looks easy to
>> replace.)
>
> +1
>
> I have the olinuxino-lime which has a AllWinner A10 chip and it uses
> u-boot, and framebuffer, so theoretically there would be no blobs. At
> the moment it runs arch linux arm, but I would prefer parabola.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dev mailing list
>> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev


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From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 13:28:26 2015
From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:28:26 +0100
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org>
References: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>
 <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <55D9B21C.3070403@gmail.com>
 <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <55D9CA7A.2030606@gmail.com>

On 23/08/15 14:14, Luke wrote:
> The two test boards provided were Beaglebone and Raspberry Pi. If
> someone is willing to donate a board which is capable of booting without
> blobs this project could be re-launched. I backed my work (e.g.
> mplayer-libre), prior to the git removal.
>
> My current plan is to free several packages on my personal git and wait
> until a board comes along which is cable of running a fully free kernel
> that we can make tests on. Then this could continue at a later date.
>
> If you are willing to donate the All Winner, it may be worth testing.
> Ask Emulatorman if he can share his latest PKGBUILD of linux-libre with
> you. However be aware that if it requires a blob you might be left with
> a non-usable device. Make backups of the current SDCard.
>
> I do not have the full list of blobs, Emulatorman mentioned several in
> the IRC which were required for the two previous boards to operate.
>
>
> On 08/23/2015 07:44 AM, Josh Branning wrote:
>> On 23/08/15 04:47, Micha? Mas?owski wrote:
>>>> RNC patches which
>>>> are required for the kernel to run on ARM computers
>>>
>>> Not true.
>>>
>>>> You can read more information about blobs on ARM devices here:
>>>> https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
>>>
>>> We support x86 while many systems there need blobs for optional graphics
>>> acceleration, and nearly all have nonfree boot firmware.
>>>
>>>> These boards, including Raspberry Pi, actually REQUIRE the blobs in
>>>> order to boot. Therefore until a blob-free board is available, we are
>>>> unable to continue our work. This is unfortunate, but the current
>>>> situation of hardware doesn't allow a true GNU/Linux-libre kernel.
>>>
>>> Boards using TI or AllWinner SoCs don't have such blobs.  Please list
>>> specific blobs which are the issue.
>>>
>>> (For AM335x used in BeagleBone Black, there is a small power management
>>> firmware under a nonfree license, but the SoC documentation suggests it
>>> being needed only for suspend to RAM which I don't believe is normally
>>> useful on that board.  Regardless of this, that firmware looks easy to
>>> replace.)
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I have the olinuxino-lime which has a AllWinner A10 chip and it uses
>> u-boot, and framebuffer, so theoretically there would be no blobs. At
>> the moment it runs arch linux arm, but I would prefer parabola.

I have two in-fact, but it may be easier giving a donation for the cost 
of one (can't be bothered to ship it myself). Do you have a donations 
system set up yet?



From lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 13:38:55 2015
From: lovell.joshyyy at gmail.com (Josh Branning)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:38:55 +0100
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <55D9CA7A.2030606@gmail.com>
References: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>
 <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <55D9B21C.3070403@gmail.com>
 <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org> <55D9CA7A.2030606@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55D9CCEF.4010908@gmail.com>

Sorry, I also forgot to mention that I made scripts for getting the 
sunxi kernel and u-boot on the device with the alarm img.

http://joshyyy.twilightparadox.com/owncloud/index.php/s/Tpjo5ELi1ecZqIW

Not sure how much work you've put into an alternate method, but this 
would probably need to be altered somehow anyway. I think the 
linux-libre project has a deblob script that would certainly need to be 
run over the kernel for it to be free.

Still, a rootfs img suitable for the device would be needed.


From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sun Aug 23 14:10:49 2015
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (fauno)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:10:49 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org>
References: <55D93F94.9060505@openmailbox.org>
 <87d1yell7t.fsf@elros.vpn.mtjm.eu> <55D9B21C.3070403@gmail.com>
 <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <87twrq9jti.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

Luke <g4jc at openmailbox.org> writes:

> The two test boards provided were Beaglebone and Raspberry Pi. If
> someone is willing to donate a board which is capable of booting without
> blobs this project could be re-launched. I backed my work (e.g.
> mplayer-libre), prior to the git removal.
>
> My current plan is to free several packages on my personal git and wait
> until a board comes along which is cable of running a fully free kernel
> that we can make tests on. Then this could continue at a later date.
>
> If you are willing to donate the All Winner, it may be worth testing.
> Ask Emulatorman if he can share his latest PKGBUILD of linux-libre with
> you. However be aware that if it requires a blob you might be left with
> a non-usable device. Make backups of the current SDCard.
>
> I do not have the full list of blobs, Emulatorman mentioned several in
> the IRC which were required for the two previous boards to operate.

if there're arm devices that can be booted with linux-libre i don't see
why the arm port has to stop.  you won't be able to boot the current
boards fully free but at least and up until a free device comes along,
you'll be able to use only free software in them, instead of having many
non-free things mixed with the only bit of unfree software that's
necessary.

as mtjm said, this scenario already happens on x86 machines[^1] and we
keep going, and it's worst when you have an unsupported wifi card, so
you have to buy another one or install the unfree module separately.  in
these cases you at least know what's unfree on your machine.


what i'm saying is that if packages built on the pseudo-free raspberry
pi and beagle bone we already have are able to run on freer boards
later, we keep working on them.  otherwise we're losing momentum (and
we're already late to the party!)


[^1]: last time i read about raspberry pi's blob they were going to move
      it into a rom chip, bios-style.

-- 
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From dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 17:57:39 2015
From: dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com (Dika Setya Prayogi)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:57:39 +0700
Subject: [Dev] no update
Message-ID: <CAKpbLoa4rTNNXgmENvB19VHEXW2Ayq32xH5-jenre4+gjX9uCw@mail.gmail.com>

fauno < fauno at endefensadelsl.org > writes:

>> Dika Setya Prayogi < dikasetyaprayogi at gmail.com > write:

>> there is no update for parabola linux more than three days, what happen ?
>> _______________________________________________

> try changing your mirror on /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, we don't control
if mirrors are up to date or not (should we?)

no I mean the recent update in parabola website home. I noticed the
packages always updated until it stuck in  arss v 0.2.3-1 from
2015-08-15 since then there is no update info until now.


From g4jc at openmailbox.org  Sun Aug 23 18:27:24 2015
From: g4jc at openmailbox.org (Luke)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:27:24 -0400
Subject: [Dev] no update
In-Reply-To: <CAKpbLoa4rTNNXgmENvB19VHEXW2Ayq32xH5-jenre4+gjX9uCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKpbLoa4rTNNXgmENvB19VHEXW2Ayq32xH5-jenre4+gjX9uCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55DA108C.60703@openmailbox.org>

Confirming bug. I updated tahoe-lafs earlier today and it is still
showing the old version on the site (1.10.1 instead of 1.10.2)
See here:
https://www.parabola.nu/packages/pcr/any/tahoe-lafs/

Encyclomundi mentioned in IRC the other day that librerelease fails in
the final step to update repos and produces errors lately. Perhaps it is
related.

On 08/23/2015 01:57 PM, Dika Setya Prayogi wrote:
>
> no I mean the recent update in parabola website home. I noticed the
> packages always updated until it stuck in  arss v 0.2.3-1 from
> 2015-08-15 since then there is no update info until now.
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
>


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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sun Aug 23 18:53:32 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:53:32 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <55D9C723.2080100@openmailbox.org> (Luke's message of "Sun, 23
 Aug 2015 09:14:11 -0400")
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> The two test boards provided were Beaglebone and Raspberry Pi. If
> someone is willing to donate a board which is capable of booting without
> blobs this project could be re-launched. I backed my work (e.g.
> mplayer-libre), prior to the git removal.

I could check if my BeagleBone Black works without that firmware.  (My
Cubieboard works fulltime as a personal server.)

> If you are willing to donate the All Winner, it may be worth testing.

I won't donate unless we implement the Harvey Birdman Rule [0] with the
specific addition that the communication on IRC or not in English is
"private communications" for the purpose of section 3.

[0] https://github.com/copyleft-next/copyleft-next/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

> Make backups of the current SDCard.

SD cards are cheaper than the flash inside.  Have backups since they
will break regardless of any use.

> I do not have the full list of blobs, Emulatorman mentioned several in
> the IRC which were required for the two previous boards to operate.

This should be on the list.
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sun Aug 23 18:56:07 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:56:07 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Canceling of Parabola ARM
In-Reply-To: <87twrq9jti.fsf@endefensadelsl.org> (fauno@endefensadelsl.org's
 message of "Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:10:49 -0300")
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> if there're arm devices that can be booted with linux-libre i don't see
> why the arm port has to stop.  you won't be able to boot the current
> boards fully free but at least and up until a free device comes along,
> you'll be able to use only free software in them, instead of having many
> non-free things mixed with the only bit of unfree software that's
> necessary.

+1

> what i'm saying is that if packages built on the pseudo-free raspberry
> pi and beagle bone we already have are able to run on freer boards
> later, we keep working on them.  otherwise we're losing momentum (and
> we're already late to the party!)

I think having FSF-endorsed non-embedded distros supporting such mostly
free boards would help replace the remaining nonfree parts.
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