From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Wed Jul  2 15:05:41 2014
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:05:41 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [Jaromil] [GNU-linux-libre] please endorse dyne:bolic for EU
	funding (CHEST)
Message-ID: <878uobol6i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


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From hellekin at gnu.org  Wed Jul  2 20:12:06 2014
From: hellekin at gnu.org (hellekin)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:12:06 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [Jaromil] [GNU-linux-libre] please endorse dyne:bolic for
 EU funding (CHEST)
In-Reply-To: <878uobol6i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
References: <878uobol6i.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <53B46796.3070803@gnu.org>

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Thank you fauno for forwarding this!

The CHEST site is a bit MEH: it won't redirect you while you logged in,
so here is a shortcut: use the first URL to register and login, then you
can click or reload the other URLs :)

http://ideas.chest-project.eu
http://ideas.chest-project.eu/?q=node/3430 (Dyne:bolic)
http://ideas.chest-project.eu/?q=node/3433 (Tomb)
http://ideas.chest-project.eu/?q=node/3358 (Dowse)
http://ideas.chest-project.eu/?q=node/3450 (BubbleClub)

Thank you for your time!

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From aurelien at hackers.camp  Wed Jul  2 22:49:31 2014
From: aurelien at hackers.camp (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_DESBRI=C3=88RES?=)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:49:31 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [gnu.org #925222] Re: Can someone run a torrent tracker?
In-Reply-To: <rt-3.4.5-10422-1404333674-201.925222-5-0@rt.gnu.org> (Lisa
 Maginnis via's message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2014 16:41:15 -0400")
References: <RT-Ticket-925222@rt.gnu.org> <53A52A3B.8090108@t67.eu>
 <87fviyg049.fsf@unicorn.home> <87bntmfyyv.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <rt-3.4.5-10422-1404333674-201.925222-5-0@rt.gnu.org>
Message-ID: <877g3vjs04.fsf@unicorn.home>

"Lisa Maginnis via RT" <sysadmin at gnu.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
>> Or maybe the FSF could use mirror.fsf.org to share freedom?
>> 
>> An open tracker could be possible on GNU / FSF servers?
>
> Hello. We already run seeder.gnu.org. Is this something that we could
> add to that?
>  
> Let us know & Thanks,
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
transmit to dev mail list.

Thanks for you help Lisa!

-- 
Aur?lien DESBRI?RES
Run Free - Run GNU.org


From aurelien at hackers.camp  Wed Jul  2 22:51:14 2014
From: aurelien at hackers.camp (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_DESBRI=C3=88RES?=)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:51:14 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [gnu.org #924783] Please add Parabola GNU / Linux-libre
	to the mirror.
In-Reply-To: <rt-3.4.5-11835-1404335283-1180.924783-5-0@rt.gnu.org> (Lisa
 Maginnis via's message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:08:03 -0400")
References: <RT-Ticket-924783@rt.gnu.org> <87mwd9fd72.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <rt-3.4.5-11835-1404335283-1180.924783-5-0@rt.gnu.org>
Message-ID: <8738ejjrx9.fsf@unicorn.home>

"Lisa Maginnis via RT" <sysadmin at gnu.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I'm downloading the ISOs to add to mirror.fsf.org, I will probably add
> them on Monday.
>
> By the way, is there a normal location for these ISOs? Or should I
> create one? Let me know!
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
Transmit to dev mailing list

Thanks Lisa!

-- 
Aur?lien DESBRI?RES
Run Free - Run GNU.org


From aurelien at hackers.camp  Wed Jul  2 22:55:33 2014
From: aurelien at hackers.camp (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_DESBRI=C3=88RES?=)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:55:33 +0200
Subject: [Dev] [gnu.org #924783] Please add Parabola GNU / Linux-libre
	to the mirror.
In-Reply-To: <8738ejjrx9.fsf@unicorn.home> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Aur=C3=A9lien_DES?=
 =?utf-8?Q?BRI=C3=88RES=22's?= message of
 "Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:51:14 +0200")
References: <RT-Ticket-924783@rt.gnu.org> <87mwd9fd72.fsf@unicorn.home>
 <rt-3.4.5-11835-1404335283-1180.924783-5-0@rt.gnu.org>
 <8738ejjrx9.fsf@unicorn.home>
Message-ID: <87y4wbid5m.fsf@unicorn.home>

aurelien at hackers.camp (Aur?lien DESBRI?RES) writes:

> "Lisa Maginnis via RT" <sysadmin at gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm downloading the ISOs to add to mirror.fsf.org, I will probably add
>> them on Monday.
>>
>> By the way, is there a normal location for these ISOs? Or should I
>> create one? Let me know!
> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
> Transmit to dev mailing list
>
> Thanks Lisa!
>
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>

The "normal" location is https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/Get

-- 
Aur?lien DESBRI?RES
Run Free - Run GNU.org


From xylon at t67.eu  Fri Jul  4 09:46:34 2014
From: xylon at t67.eu (Joseph Graham)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 10:46:34 +0100
Subject: [Dev] Cron jobs aren't running on repo and `su' is broken!!
Message-ID: <53B677FA.1090402@t67.eu>

repo user's hourly `make_repo_torrents' is not getting run and neither 
is one of pbot-ng's crons. Also, su is broken!!:

# su - repo
bash: /bin/su: No such file or directory

If anyone has trouble getting root access to fix it, I have a screen 
session with a root terminal in it. I've enabled multiuser mode and 
granted access to lukeshu,fauno and mtjm. I've never used screen 
multiuser mode before but obviously it's documented by info screen.


From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Fri Jul  4 10:55:46 2014
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:55:46 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Cron jobs aren't running on repo and `su' is broken!!
In-Reply-To: <53B677FA.1090402@t67.eu> (Joseph Graham's message of "Fri, 04
 Jul 2014 10:46:34 +0100")
References: <53B677FA.1090402@t67.eu>
Message-ID: <87simhv1e5.fsf@mtjm.eu>

> repo user's hourly `make_repo_torrents' is not getting run and neither
> is one of pbot-ng's crons. Also, su is broken!!:
>
> # su - repo
> bash: /bin/su: No such file or directory

sudo works.  I think there is no point in working around this issue
unless we migrate to systemd.
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From korobkov at fryxell.info  Mon Jul 14 11:08:52 2014
From: korobkov at fryxell.info (Andrey Korobkov)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:08:52 +0400
Subject: [Dev] Please,
 unblacklist ufoai and ufoai-data packages: they are free now
Message-ID: <E1X6e7u-0003ZJ-Ff@mx.fryxell.info>

Hello, all

I'm glad to tell you good news: a good free software game -UFO:AI now became Debian-compliant!
>From http://ufoai.org/wiki/News

> Next licensing step
> 
> Our final goal for the licensing was reached today. We are now fully Debian compliant. This is true for both 2.6-dev and 2.5. You can find the list of licenses here: http://ufoai.org/licenses/
> 
> We can now finally prepare the 2.5 release and we really hope that we are a part of the Debian world from that release on. We would reach a lot more users with that and hopefully would also get some new contributors.
> 
> Stay tuned for the monthly that is hopefully going to be posted soon.
> 2014-06-01 ? mattn
> 
> ?
> 
> As a sidenote we have replaced all our assets with Debian compatible licenses which will hopefully bring us a lot more players since we now can be part of the big Debian/Ubuntu universe. It only took us a few years to reach this goal. Thanks for everyone to support us. 

So I ask you to unblacklist, please, the packages: ufoai and ufoai-data, as they are free now! Yes!

best regards,
-- 
Andrey Korobkov


From korobkov at fryxell.info  Wed Jul 16 08:23:56 2014
From: korobkov at fryxell.info (Andrey Korobkov)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:23:56 +0400
Subject: [Dev] Please,
 unblacklist ufoai and ufoai-data packages: they are free now
Message-ID: <E1X7KVK-0005Nt-Ls@mx.fryxell.info>

Hello, all

I'm glad to tell you good news: a good free software game -UFO:AI now became Debian-compliant!
>From http://ufoai.org/wiki/News

> Next licensing step
> 
> Our final goal for the licensing was reached today. We are now fully Debian compliant. This is true for both 2.6-dev and 2.5. You can find the list of licenses here: http://ufoai.org/licenses/
> 
> We can now finally prepare the 2.5 release and we really hope that we are a part of the Debian world from that release on. We would reach a lot more users with that and hopefully would also get some new contributors.
> 
> Stay tuned for the monthly that is hopefully going to be posted soon.
> 2014-06-01 ? mattn
> 
> ?
> 
> As a sidenote we have replaced all our assets with Debian compatible licenses which will hopefully bring us a lot more players since we now can be part of the big Debian/Ubuntu universe. It only took us a few years to reach this goal. Thanks for everyone to support us. 

So I ask you to unblacklist, please, the packages: ufoai and ufoai-data, as they are free now! Yes!

best regards,
-- 
Andrey Korobkov


From korobkov at fryxell.info  Fri Jul 18 10:55:40 2014
From: korobkov at fryxell.info (Andrey Korobkov)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:55:40 +0400
Subject: [Dev] Please,
 unblacklist ufoai and ufoai-data packages: they are free now
Message-ID: <E1X85pG-0005G5-Ip@mx.fryxell.info>

Hello, all

I'm glad to tell you good news: a good free software game -UFO:AI now became Debian-compliant!
>From http://ufoai.org/wiki/News

> Next licensing step
> 
> Our final goal for the licensing was reached today. We are now fully Debian compliant. This is true for both 2.6-dev and 2.5. You can find the list of licenses here: http://ufoai.org/licenses/
> 
> We can now finally prepare the 2.5 release and we really hope that we are a part of the Debian world from that release on. We would reach a lot more users with that and hopefully would also get some new contributors.
> 
> Stay tuned for the monthly that is hopefully going to be posted soon.
> 2014-06-01 ? mattn
> 
> ?
> 
> As a sidenote we have replaced all our assets with Debian compatible licenses which will hopefully bring us a lot more players since we now can be part of the big Debian/Ubuntu universe. It only took us a few years to reach this goal. Thanks for everyone to support us. 

So I ask you to unblacklist, please, the packages: ufoai and ufoai-data, as they are free now! Yes!

best regards,
-- 
Andrey Korobkov


From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 19 23:21:17 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:21:17 -0400
Subject: [Dev] test
Message-ID: <87bnslvssy.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

Verifying Postfix and Mailman configuration.

~ Luke Shumaker


From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sun Jul 20 17:37:36 2014
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:37:36 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Please,
	unblacklist ufoai and ufoai-data packages: they are free now
In-Reply-To: <E1X6e7u-0003ZJ-Ff@mx.fryxell.info> (Andrey Korobkov's message of
 "Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:08:52 +0400")
References: <E1X6e7u-0003ZJ-Ff@mx.fryxell.info>
Message-ID: <874myc6ie7.fsf@mtjm.eu>

>> As a sidenote we have replaced all our assets with Debian compatible
>> licenses which will hopefully bring us a lot more players since we
>> now can be part of the big Debian/Ubuntu universe. It only took us a
>> few years to reach this goal. Thanks for everyone to support us.
>
> So I ask you to unblacklist, please, the packages: ufoai and
> ufoai-data, as they are free now! Yes!

ufoai is ok except for depending on ufoai-data.

I found these issues in ufoai-data:

- the maps are updated during build(), so we don't provide their
  versions used in binaries in the source tarball

- source is in a git repo (tagged), we don't provide it in a tarball

- base/textures/license.txt has nonfree licenses; are there textures
  licensed under them?

Can someone fix them?
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From alfplayer at mailoo.org  Sun Jul 20 21:04:07 2014
From: alfplayer at mailoo.org (Esteban Carnevale)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:04:07 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Archiving old ISO images
Message-ID: <20140720180407.1dbb8b97eff705539d06ef5e@mailoo.org>

I'll remove old ISO images, from 2011 and 2012, from the repository in a couple of days.

-- 
Esteban Carnevale <alfplayer at mailoo.org>


From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Mon Jul 21 18:04:47 2014
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:04:47 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [Linuxpara Todoschile] Link entrevista
Message-ID: <8761iq8u68.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


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From fauno at parabola.nu  Wed Jul 23 15:22:45 2014
From: fauno at parabola.nu (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:22:45 -0300
Subject: [Dev] ping
Message-ID: <878unk2j7e.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


just testing if email from @parabola.nu pass through :)

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From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Wed Jul 23 15:30:30 2014
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:30:30 -0300
Subject: [Dev] changes in dev@
Message-ID: <8761io2iuh.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>


since we receive lots of spam but are put on hold by mailman i've saved
moderator stress and configured this list to silently discard non-member
email.

this will affect spam (lots of it) but also legitimate email addressed
to us collectively.  since this doesn't happen often i think we're ok
for now.

just in case i whitelisted @gnu.org, @fsf.org, @parabola.nu, and
@parabolagnulinux.org addresses, if you think we're missing one or
reject emails instead please tell.


-- 
:O
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From zatroch at riseup.net  Fri Jul 25 11:46:15 2014
From: zatroch at riseup.net (zatroch at riseup.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 04:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Dev] FYI | Gentoo MIPS alive and kicking & hardened Tor relay
	image (=
In-Reply-To: <878unk2j7e.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
References: <878unk2j7e.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <1f3bba7c11a5a959122d5c13f7edd55d.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>

0.|
http://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2014/07/02/continued-support-for-the-lemote-yeeloong-gentoo-mips-is-alive-and-well/

1.|
http://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2014/05/23/tor-ramdisk-a-tiny-embedded-image-to-host-a-tor-relay-or-exit/

Footnote: Any of you hackers play Ryzom FLOSS MMORPG? I know Shackra is/was.

__martin__



From fauno at endefensadelsl.org  Sat Jul 26 00:20:35 2014
From: fauno at endefensadelsl.org (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 21:20:35 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [Laurent Carlier] [arch-dev-public] [draft] xorg-server 1.16
	is now available
Message-ID: <87tx65hsx8.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>

fyi
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From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 26 03:13:58 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:13:58 -0400
Subject: [Dev] [Maintenance] Cron <keys@repo> cronic bash -c 'git add
	-Av && git	commit -m "update from cron"'
In-Reply-To: <87zjfxhte5.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
References: <20140726000007.93C8C29004E@mail.parabolagnulinux.org>
 <87zjfxhte5.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
Message-ID: <877g30dd6x.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

At Fri, 25 Jul 2014 21:10:26 -0300,
Nicol?s Reynolds wrote:
> 
> [1  <text/plain (quoted-printable)>]
> "(Cron Daemon)" <keys at parabolagnulinux.org> writes:
> 
> > Cronic detected failure or error output for the command:
> > bash -c git add -Av && git commit -m "update from cron"
> >
> > RESULT CODE: 1
> >
> > ERROR OUTPUT:
> >
> > STANDARD OUTPUT:
> > On branch master
> > nothing to commit, working directory clean
> 
> why does git return 1 when there's nothing to do!

I've now made it check `git status` first to check if there is
anything to do.

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker


From elcorreo at deshackra.com  Sat Jul 26 19:19:50 2014
From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:19:50 -0600
Subject: [Dev] FYI | Gentoo MIPS alive and kicking & hardened Tor relay
 image (=
In-Reply-To: <1f3bba7c11a5a959122d5c13f7edd55d.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>
References: <878unk2j7e.fsf@endefensadelsl.org>
 <1f3bba7c11a5a959122d5c13f7edd55d.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>
Message-ID: <1406402390.3262.1.camel@deshackra.com>

El vie, 25-07-2014 a las 04:46 -0700, zatroch at riseup.net escribi?:

> 0.|
> http://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2014/07/02/continued-support-for-the-lemote-yeeloong-gentoo-mips-is-alive-and-well/
> 
> 1.|
> http://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2014/05/23/tor-ramdisk-a-tiny-embedded-image-to-host-a-tor-relay-or-exit/
> 
> Footnote: Any of you hackers play Ryzom FLOSS MMORPG? I know Shackra is/was.
> 
> __martin__
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dev mailing list
> Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org
> https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev


I still play Ryzom, but my laptop is so bad right now that a overheating
of the CPU (caused by playing a 3D game or compiling something) makes my
computer restart. When I get a new laptop I will play again :)
-- 
Pax et bonum.
Jorge Araya Navarro.
Dise?ador publicitario, programador Python/C++ y colaborador en Parabola
GNU/Linux-libre.
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sun Jul 27 09:14:29 2014
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:14:29 +0200
Subject: [Dev] SPF
Message-ID: <877g2zcgei.fsf@mtjm.eu>

I have added SPF records for our domains (parabolagnulinux.org and
parabola.nu).  The change is documented at [0].

Write if there are any problems or some names or servers are missing.

I'll enable SPF validation on repo later.

[0] https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/Hacking:Server_configuration#SPF
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sun Jul 27 09:57:43 2014
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:57:43 +0200
Subject: [Dev] SPF
In-Reply-To: <877g2zcgei.fsf@mtjm.eu> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82o?=
 =?utf-8?Q?wski=22's?= message of "Sun,
 27 Jul 2014 11:14:29 +0200")
References: <877g2zcgei.fsf@mtjm.eu>
Message-ID: <8738dnceeg.fsf@mtjm.eu>

> I'll enable SPF validation on repo later.

Done.
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From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 27 18:46:33 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:46:33 -0400
Subject: [Dev] [Maintenance] Cron <keys@parabolagnulinux> cronic bash -c
	'[[ -z	$(git status .) ]] || { git add -Av && git commit -m
	"update	from cron"; }'
In-Reply-To: <20140727000002.D75CEC0B@parabolagnulinux.org>
References: <20140727000002.D75CEC0B@parabolagnulinux.org>
Message-ID: <87ppgq8ws6.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

At Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:00:02 +0000 (UTC),
(Cron Daemon) wrote:
> Cronic detected failure or error output for the command:
> bash -c [[ -z $(git status .) ]] || { git add -Av && git commit -m "update from cron"; }
> 

Oops, that should have been $(git status -s .)
                                         ^^

Fixed now! (it was correct on the other server)

> RESULT CODE: 1
> 
> ERROR OUTPUT:
> 
> STANDARD OUTPUT:
> On branch master
> nothing to commit, working directory clean
> _______________________________________________
> Maintenance mailing list
> Maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org
> https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/maintenance

Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker


From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 27 19:48:33 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:48:33 -0400
Subject: [Dev] New libretools v20140726 on [libre-testing]
Message-ID: <87mwbu8twu.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

Last night, I pushed libretools v20140726 to [libre-testing].
It follows the stable release v20140515, and the previous testing
releases v20140630.

There are a couple of user-facing "disruptive" changes in librestage
that I hope you guys won't be too hostile to:

Disruptive/breaking changes since v20140515:
 * librestage: 
   - Will now REFUSE to stage a package if there are uncommited
     changes in its directory. (also present in v20140630)
   - NO LONGER supports naming multiple repos to stage to (a rarely
     used feature). (new since v20140630)
 * libremessages:
   - term_title()'s usage has changed to make it gettext-aware. (new
     since v20140630)

There are also a bunch of exciting new things and changes that are
non-disruptive:

New and fun changes:
- since v20140630 (testing):
  * librestage:
    - LEARNED how to stage -debug packages.
    - The repo name is now OPTIONAL, it will guess based on the
      directory name.  This means `librestage` no longer requires any
      arguments!  Ease of use!
  * librefetch: SUPPORT short-flag combining. How users expect it to!
  * The build system creates po/*.pot files, so we can begin
    LOCALIZING libretools to other languages.
- since v20140515 (stable):
  * NEW package: xbs
  * NEW tool: libredbdiff: For comparing Arch DBs to Parabola DBs.
  * NEW tool: librexgettext: Generates .pot files for libremessages-using-programs.

----

There are, of course, also boring changes:
- since v20140630 (testing):
  * none
- since v20140515 (stable):
  * createworkdir:
    - (internal) Uses xbs.
  * librestage:
    - (internal) Now takes advantage of new-ish functions in
      libremessages
  * librelib:
    - Is now GPLv2+ instead of GPLv3+
  * default libretools.conf:
    - Comment: Document that REPOS is no longer used by createworkdir
    - Default: Use the non-symlink/shorthand path to the git repos in
      ABSLIBRE{RECV,SEND}
    - New variable: ABSLIBREDEST: used by xbs-abslibre to stage
      PKGBUILDs.

There are also many bugfixes:
- since v20140630 (testing):
  * libremessages: flag() wrapped to 81 columns instead of 80
  * libremakepkg: Fix line-wrapping/indent (I thought I had fixed this
    in v20140630, but there was still a bug)
  * So many spelling and grammar fixes in --help text, man pages, and
    user-facing messages.  It's embarrassing how many fixes.  I'm
    embarrassed.
- since v20140515 (stable):
  * createworkdir:
    - No longer requires REPOS to be set in libretools.conf
    - No longer produces color escape sequences in the output if stdout
      is not a terminal.
  * librerelease: Potential lockfile invalidation related to
    filedescriptor numbers was fixed.
  * librestage:
    - Fixed typo in an error message
    - Potential lockfile invalidation related to filedescriptor numbers
      was fixed.
  * librechroot: Correctly escapes temp file names in all cases.
  * fullpkg: Runs correctly.  I take it that since no one reported
    that it didn't run, no one was using it.  It may be removed.
  * gitget: Correctly handles doing a checkout when the ref is a tag.
  * libregit: Runs correctly.  Since it is provided for compatibility
    for some scripts that use it, I'm not too surprised that no one
    reported this; they're mostly server tools.
  * conf.sh: Learned about xbs* slugs.

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker


From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Mon Jul 28 10:47:24 2014
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:47:24 +0200
Subject: [Dev] Nonfree jpegxr in ghostscript
Message-ID: <87zjftahfn.fsf@mtjm.eu>

Hello.  A user found a nonfree library source being bundled with
Ghostscript.

jpegxr has the following license (jpegxr/COPYRIGHT.txt in ghostscript
source tree):

/*************************************************************************
*
* This software module was originally contributed by Microsoft
* Corporation in the course of development of the
* ITU-T T.832 | ISO/IEC 29199-2 ("JPEG XR") format standard for
* reference purposes and its performance may not have been optimized.
*
* This software module is an implementation of one or more
* tools as specified by the JPEG XR standard.
*
* ITU/ISO/IEC give You a royalty-free, worldwide, non-exclusive
* copyright license to copy, distribute, and make derivative works
* of this software module or modifications thereof for use in
* products claiming conformance to the JPEG XR standard as
* specified by ITU-T T.832 | ISO/IEC 29199-2.
*
* ITU/ISO/IEC give users the same free license to this software
* module or modifications thereof for research purposes and further
* ITU/ISO/IEC standardization.
*
* Those intending to use this software module in products are advised
* that its use may infringe existing patents. ITU/ISO/IEC have no
* liability for use of this software module or modifications thereof.
*
* Copyright is not released for products that do not conform to
* to the JPEG XR standard as specified by ITU-T T.832 |
* ISO/IEC 29199-2.
*
* Microsoft Corporation retains full right to modify and use the code
* for its own purpose, to assign or donate the code to a third party,
* and to inhibit third parties from using the code for products that
* do not conform to the JPEG XR standard as specified by ITU-T T.832 |
* ISO/IEC 29199-2.
* 
* This copyright notice must be included in all copies or derivative
* works.
* 
* Copyright (c) ITU-T/ISO/IEC 2008, 2009.
***********************************************************************/

This license forbids making modifications that do not comply with the
ITU standard and might have other issues.

The GNU Ghostscript bug report is at [0].  The library is included since
release 9.04.1, upstream has it since 9.01.

Debian removes that library, so it should be already fixed in derived
distros.

Should we update the #GPL_Ghostscript_CMap_data_files entry of the
non-FSDG list to recommend removing that library (or updating to a
future GNU Ghostscript version without it, or using Debian's cleaned
source)?

[0] https://savannah.gnu.org/support/index.php?108621
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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Mon Jul 28 18:28:13 2014
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIFNpbHZh?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:28:13 -0300
Subject: [Dev] Nonfree jpegxr in ghostscript
In-Reply-To: <87zjftahfn.fsf@mtjm.eu>
References: <87zjftahfn.fsf@mtjm.eu>
Message-ID: <53D6963D.9090909@riseup.net>

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On 07/28/2014 07:47 AM, Micha? Mas?owski wrote:
> Should we update the #GPL_Ghostscript_CMap_data_files entry of the 
> non-FSDG list to recommend removing that library (or updating to a 
> future GNU Ghostscript version without it, or using Debian's
> cleaned source)?
> 
I think that we should use a future GNU Ghostscript version without it
because we are a rolling release distro and could check better our
version packages thought. I will try do it and let you know about it.
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From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 30 02:05:19 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:05:19 -0400
Subject: [Dev] Server down. Git mirror available.
Message-ID: <8761ifd2jk.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

The parabolagnulinux.org server is unexpectedly down.  This is the
server used for:
 - the main website
 - the bug tracker
 - git
 - xmpp

Until the server is back online, a mirror of some of the git
repositories is available at https://lukeshu.com/git/mirror/parabola .

Parabola commiters should be able to use the URL
<ssh://parabola at lukeshu.com:1863/srv/git/...> to commit there.  If
your SSH key has changed recently, let me know, it is based on a
slightly old checkout of hackers.git.

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker


From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 30 04:36:50 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:36:50 -0400
Subject: [Dev] [RFC] Package naming for packages modified from Arch
Message-ID: <8738djcvj1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

At Emulatorman's suggestion, I am taking this discussion from the IRC
channel to the mailing list.

The topic is basically "when should we add '-libre' to a package name?"

We may also end up discussing the CONFIG_LOCALVERSION for kernels.

----

The following 4 suggestions have been offered: (as I understand them;
with some commentary added)

 1) Add the -libre suffix to all packages that are modified from Arch
    for freedom reasons (so not for rebranding reasons). (fauno)

    lukeshu: Why "except for rebranding"?

 2) Add the -libre suffix on packages for patched-source software.
    (lukeshu)

    lukeshu: Because the name "${pkgbase}-libre" denotes that it is a
    fork of "${pkgbase}" that is maintained by the Parabola project,
    similar to Iceweasel being maintained by Debian, or Linux-libre by
    GNU/the FSFLA.

 3) Don't ever use the -libre suffix (mtjm)

    Because all packages on [libre] have implicitly been modified for
    freedom.

 4) Use -libre for patched-source software, and -prbl/-para (or similar)
    for packaging or configuration chages. (coadde)

    The "-libre" policy from #2, plus using another suffix to
    differentiate between Arch's version and Parabola's version to
    avoid confusion when migrating.

    Basstard`: prbl is not far from prblm.

----

This was previously briefly discussed on-list in January 2013:
 - https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/pipermail/dev/2013-January/001054.html
 - https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/pipermail/dev/2013-January/001056.html

I'm sure it has been discussed in much more detail on IRC; but I do
not have IRC logs.

Other relevent resources:
 - https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/Nomenclature
 - Arch's documented naming policies:
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_packaging_standards#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cross_Compiling_Tools_Package_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Eclipse_Plugin_Package_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Free_Pascal_PKGBUILD_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Go_Package_Guidelines#Naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Java_Package_Guidelines#Java_packaging_on_Arch_Linux
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE_Package_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MinGW_PKGBUILD_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OCaml_Package_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Perl_Package_Guidelines#Package_names
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Python_Package_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ruby_Gem_Package_Guidelines#Package_naming
   - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VCS_PKGBUILD_Guidelines#Guidelines
 - I can't seem to find the AUR rules right now.

----

A look at Arch's policy:

The only documented use of pkgname suffixes in Arch's policies is: 
 - for VCS packages, which allow "`-cvs`, `-svn`, `-hg`, `-darcs`,
   `-bzr`, `-git`, etc."
 - The major version is used in the case of multiple supported release
   branches.  Examples:
   - `gtk2`/`gtk3`
   - `qt4`/`qt5`

However, from knowledge of Arch, they also use suffixes for:
 - A significant alternate configuration.  Examples:
   - `emacs` -> `emacs-nox` (extra->community) (sort-of conflicts with
     using `emacs-$modename` for Emacs modes)
   - `linux` -> `linux-pae` (AUR)
 - A nonstandard release branch is used.  Examples:
   - `linux` -> `linux-lts` (core)
 - A patchseries has been applied.  Examples:
   - `linux` -> `linux-grsec` (core->community)

(I'm almost certain non-"linux" examples could be found for each, I'm
just lazy/tired).

----

A look at existing practice in Parabola:

 - abiword -> abiword-libre: Has been patched to alter defaults
   referencing non-free files.  This is a "configuration" change, but
   hardcoded configuration.  This patch is maintained by Parabola.

 - abs -> abs: The same software as in Arch, but with a different
   configuration file in /etc.  This was named 'abs-libre' until I
   renamed it to 'abs' in June 2013.

 - acpi_call -> acpi_call-libre; acpi_call-lts -> acpi_call-libre-lts: Must be compiled
   per-kernel.  The suffix is based on the kernel name.  In the
   morning when I'm less tired, I will update on details about kernel
   naming policies in Arch vs. Parabola.

 - antlr2 -> antlr2: The same software, packaged/built differently
   because of differing policies on Java packages.

 - apache-ant -> apache-ant: The same software, but the Parabola
   package is built from source, where the Arch PKGBUILD fetches a
   precompiled binary.

 - filesystem -> filesystem: No software at all.  Contains branding
   changes.

 - linux -> linux-libre: The Arch software has been replaced by
   software from a different upstream.  In the morning when I'm less
   tired, I will update on details about kernel naming policies in
   Arch vs. Parabola.

 - firefox -> icecat: The Arch software has been replaced by software
   from a different upstream.

 - firefox -> iceweasel-libre: The Arch software has been replaced by
   software from a different upstream, AND that software has then been
   patched for freedom-related reasons.  The patch is maintained by
   Parabola.

 - cups-filters -> cups-filters-libre: Exactly the same package,
   except that an entry has been removed from the `optdepends` array.

 - mplayer -> mplayer-libre: Identical, except that mplayer-libre
   lacks 'faac' as a dependency (the presence/absense of faac is
   detected by ./configure).

I *think* that covers every distinct way a package is changed--though
I do not believe renaming is performed consistently enough for
policies to be created from this set.

When the package being renamed is a split package, I believe the
policy is universally:

    para_pkgbase=${arch_pkgbase}-libre

    if [[ "${arch_pkgname#"$arch_pkgbase"}" == "${arch_pkgname}" ]]; then
        # the pkgname is NOT based on the pkgbase
        para_pkgname="${arch_pkgname}-libre"
    else
        # the pkgname IS based on pkgbase
        para_pkgname="${para_pkgbase}${arch_pkgname#"${arch_pkgbase}"}"
    fi

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker


From gravi at fireflygnu.org  Wed Jul 30 15:46:44 2014
From: gravi at fireflygnu.org (gravi)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:46:44 -0700
Subject: [Dev] ISO building delayed
Message-ID: <87k36u3l3v.fsf@fireflygnu.org>



As of June of this year I, The Mighty Gravi, The Whip of the Damned, The
one who owns his OWN CRITERIA and who is now living brotherly in Genteaven with
the Sources, claimed the responsibility to release a new ISO every
two months without exception.

This sacred vow is no to be weakened by the malicious intervention of
daemons and witches, for I, The Mighty Man, the one who had crushed no
countable number of them, am taking care of erradicating evil forces and
taming the backs of the wicked.

However, recent humankind facts I'm being witness are, by any mean,
unacceptable in whichever the possible ways my grace is able read them, and made my
divinity suffer cause of your insolence.

Rumours of a total shutdown had disturbed my ears, the ones which enjoy
the voice of my daily prayers and priests ; so did with my eyes, creation with them
generoursly I conceived and revealed as true.

Among your rows there's no peace, there's no respect. Less seriousness nor
loyalty for I'm being aware of the considerable number of mistakes
your ineptness made, providing no, or bad, or worse service.

I inmediatly demand the head of the cursed goat-headed leader, the one
who is called lukeshu, who, indeed, puffs up himself to be a developer
and has failed miserably to migrate to systemd. His treachery and
trickery was no unobserved by myself.

I shall spill the blood of his neck over my divine clothes, so other
deamons take himself as an example of the consecuences of such a daring,
so I shall draw out his teeth, which I'll use to please the Divine Queen
in the form of necklaces and wristbands.

With the skin of his head I'll feed the jackals, and put the infamous
skull to macerate into bastard wine until REDUCES size, only before I
split his lower jaw bone and put the superior part in my crook!

Fear mortals, for I'll deprive you from a new image until September,
accordingly to your behaviour. May the drought crop down your
mediocrity!



-Original work by Gravi.
-Highly or more than inspired in Old Akkadian, Assyrian Texts.
-By no means this means unhealthy relation with the community nor/or
Lukeshu. Well, I don't like Fauno actually, but he already knows it.
-Iso delayed due to inconsistencies and old packages on the repo.
-Support my impertinence, don't publish constructive comments.


From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 30 16:15:55 2014
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:15:55 -0400
Subject: [Dev] ISO building delayed
In-Reply-To: <87k36u3l3v.fsf@fireflygnu.org>
References: <87k36u3l3v.fsf@fireflygnu.org>
Message-ID: <87wqaubz5w.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

At Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:46:44 -0700,
gravi wrote:
> I inmediatly demand the head of the cursed goat-headed leader, the one
> who is called lukeshu, who, indeed, puffs up himself to be a developer
> and has failed miserably to migrate to systemd. His treachery and
> trickery was no unobserved by myself.

Dude, both servers are running systemd.  The migration went great.

repo was down for about a week because of a kernel upgrade to
linux-libre-xen 3.15.3-1 kernel, which was non-functional.  It came
back online 2.5 weeks ago.

parabolagnulinux (non-repo) went down yesterday for unknown reasons.
To my knowledge, there was no maintainence or anything else going on
that would cause this.  Fauno, Pablo and I are trying to figure it
out.

> ...

What did I just read?

> -Support my impertinence, don't publish constructive comments.

lol

-- 
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker


From coadde at riseup.net  Wed Jul 30 20:57:29 2014
From: coadde at riseup.net (coadde)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:57:29 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [RFC] Package naming for packages modified from Arch
In-Reply-To: <53D95AC5.8020105@riseup.net>
References: <53D95AC5.8020105@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <53D95C39.10806@riseup.net>

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Em 30-07-2014 01:36, Luke Shumaker escreveu:

+1 vote for 4, but using "-parabola" suffix to differentiate between
Arch and Parabola package, not "-prbl" or "-para" because it are very
confused terms for suffix.

> The following 4 suggestions have been offered: (as I understand 
> them; with some commentary added)
> 
> 1) Add the -libre suffix to all packages that are modified from 
> Arch for freedom reasons (so not for rebranding reasons). (fauno)
> 
> lukeshu: Why "except for rebranding"?
> 
> 2) Add the -libre suffix on packages for patched-source software. 
> (lukeshu)
> 
> lukeshu: Because the name "${pkgbase}-libre" denotes that it is a 
> fork of "${pkgbase}" that is maintained by the Parabola project, 
> similar to Iceweasel being maintained by Debian, or Linux-libre by 
> GNU/the FSFLA.
> 
> 3) Don't ever use the -libre suffix (mtjm)
> 
> Because all packages on [libre] have implicitly been modified for 
> freedom.
> 
> 4) Use -libre for patched-source software, and -prbl/-para (or 
> similar) for packaging or configuration chages. (coadde)
> 
> The "-libre" policy from #2, plus using another suffix to 
> differentiate between Arch's version and Parabola's version to 
> avoid confusion when migrating.
> 
> Basstard`: prbl is not far from prblm.

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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Wed Jul 30 22:52:21 2014
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:52:21 -0300
Subject: [Dev] [RFC] Package naming for packages modified from Arch
In-Reply-To: <53D95C39.10806@riseup.net>
References: <53D95AC5.8020105@riseup.net> <53D95C39.10806@riseup.net>
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+1 for 1

On 07/30/2014 05:57 PM, coadde wrote:
> Em 30-07-2014 01:36, Luke Shumaker escreveu:
> 
> +1 vote for 4, but using "-parabola" suffix to differentiate
> between Arch and Parabola package, not "-prbl" or "-para" because
> it are very confused terms for suffix.
> 
>> The following 4 suggestions have been offered: (as I understand 
>> them; with some commentary added)
> 
>> 1) Add the -libre suffix to all packages that are modified from 
>> Arch for freedom reasons (so not for rebranding reasons).
>> (fauno)
> 
>> lukeshu: Why "except for rebranding"?
> 
>> 2) Add the -libre suffix on packages for patched-source software.
>>  (lukeshu)
> 
>> lukeshu: Because the name "${pkgbase}-libre" denotes that it is a
>>  fork of "${pkgbase}" that is maintained by the Parabola project,
>>  similar to Iceweasel being maintained by Debian, or Linux-libre
>> by GNU/the FSFLA.
> 
>> 3) Don't ever use the -libre suffix (mtjm)
> 
>> Because all packages on [libre] have implicitly been modified for
>>  freedom.
> 
>> 4) Use -libre for patched-source software, and -prbl/-para (or 
>> similar) for packaging or configuration chages. (coadde)
> 
>> The "-libre" policy from #2, plus using another suffix to 
>> differentiate between Arch's version and Parabola's version to 
>> avoid confusion when migrating.
> 
>> Basstard`: prbl is not far from prblm.
> 
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