From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Tue May 1 05:50:33 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 02:50:33 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro Message-ID: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! So, we open a votation to decide about it. a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, videogames... (put a name in this option that you recommends) c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about it) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We won't change this, so instead of three repos with games we will have four. How would this be beneficial? (The same applies to [artistic], [social] and maybe other repos.) Users need to list more repos in their pacman.conf, this change makes searching for packages less convenient. There are some uses for repos like [testing], they don't apply in case of new packages not replacing other packages. Or don't call this distro "simple". -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From l1mpm4rk at gmail.com Tue May 1 14:14:06 2012 From: l1mpm4rk at gmail.com (Mark J. R. P.) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:14:06 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <20120501091406.33a2e622@gmail.com> On Tue, 01 May 2012 02:50:33 -0300 Andr? Silva wrote: >>Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in >>Archlinux or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong >>repos, eg: we have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for >>it! So, we open a votation to decide about it. >> >>a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it >>b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, >>videogames... (put a name in this option that you recommends) >>c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about >> My thinking is, they are put into repository "[free]" or create a >> repocitorio "[PUR]" style AUR, or use your repocitorio "~ user". I >> do not think good idea to create a repocitorio for games, or >> repocitorio for each package that is compliant with freedom. >> My thinking is, they are put into repository "[free]" or create a repocitorio "[PUR]" style AUR, or use your repocitorio "~ user". I do not think good idea to create a repocitorio for games, or repocitorio for each package that is compliant with freedom. Parabola ditro "simple" "Todos somos ignorantes, sucede que unos saben lo que nosotros ignoramos y ellos ignoran lo que nosotros sabemos" Clave publica pgp. uid: Mark J. R. P. keyID: E92667C4 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16894799E92667C4 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gnu.tek at gmx.com Tue May 1 14:35:58 2012 From: gnu.tek at gmx.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?=) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 16:35:58 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <20120501091406.33a2e622@gmail.com> (Mark J. R. P.'s message of "Tue, 1 May 2012 09:14:06 -0500") References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> <20120501091406.33a2e622@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87k40wnf3l.fsf@bob.domain.org> "Mark J. R. P." writes: > On Tue, 01 May 2012 02:50:33 -0300 > Andr? Silva wrote: > >>>Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in >>>Archlinux or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong >>>repos, eg: we have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for >>>it! So, we open a votation to decide about it. >>> >>>a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it >>>b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, >>>videogames... (put a name in this option that you recommends) >>>c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about >>> My thinking is, they are put into repository "[free]" or create a >>> repocitorio "[PUR]" style AUR, or use your repocitorio "~ user". I >>> do not think good idea to create a repocitorio for games, or >>> repocitorio for each package that is compliant with freedom. >>> > > My thinking is, they are put into repository "[free]" or create a repocitorio "[PUR]" style AUR, or use your repocitorio "~ user". I do not think good idea to create a repocitorio for games, or repocitorio for each package that is compliant with freedom. > > Parabola ditro "simple" > > "Todos somos ignorantes, sucede que unos saben lo que nosotros > ignoramos y ellos ignoran lo que nosotros sabemos" > > Clave publica pgp. > uid: Mark J. R. P. > keyID: E92667C4 > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16894799E92667C4 +1 to l1mpm4rk ... we must follow the principle of the distro. -- Aurelien - Animateur P at m-Sarte http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Aurelien Free Software & Zen Minimalism Hactivist Fight for your freedom rights! Join FSF.org Fully Free Operating System at GNU.org From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Tue May 1 18:42:50 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 15:42:50 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <4FA02EAA.2040701@adinet.com.uy> Em 01-05-2012 02:50, Andr? Silva escreveu: > Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux > or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we > have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! > So, we open a votation to decide about it. > > a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it > b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, videogames... > (put a name in this option that you recommends) > c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about it) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev my vote is for A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 554 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jorgean at lavabit.com Tue May 1 22:18:12 2012 From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 16:18:12 -0600 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <1335910692.30416.3.camel@abril.local> A. but move every game to [games] repo same for [artistic] -- Jorge Araya Navarro Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. http://swt.encyclomundi.net Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, ??despierta ahora!!: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html http://replicant.us/about/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From coadde at adinet.com.uy Wed May 2 00:52:11 2012 From: coadde at adinet.com.uy (coadde) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 21:52:11 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <4FA0853B.2020407@adinet.com.uy> Em 01-05-2012 02:50, Andr? Silva escreveu: > Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux > or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we > have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! > So, we open a votation to decide about it. > > a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it > b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, videogames... > (put a name in this option that you recommends) > c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about it) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev I vote for A, because the games feel different to software, for example, are interactive art, have more than one license -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silva escreveu: > > Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux > > or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we > > have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! > > So, we open a votation to decide about it. > > > > a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it > > b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, videogames... > > (put a name in this option that you recommends) > > c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about it) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dev mailing list > > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Hello, It seems like there are two views being expressed on how to organize repositories: 1) Maintaining a few repositories that describe where the packages originated from (arch, libre, individuals, etc). It seems to me that organizing repositories based on their origin is more useful since it would avoid confusion about where to keep them; it will avoid having to reshuffle packages into new repositories; and users can search for packages by keywords anyway so there shouldn't be any problem to have games located in different repositories. 2) Maintain repositories based on packages themes. The only advantage I can think of to creating a "games" repository is that a user not interested in games at all could exclude it from their pacman file. - Paul From johannes.krampf at googlemail.com Wed May 2 04:43:33 2012 From: johannes.krampf at googlemail.com (Johannes Krampf) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 06:43:33 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <4FA0BB75.5060907@googlemail.com> On 05/01/2012 07:50 AM, Andr? Silva wrote: > Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux > or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we > have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! > So, we open a votation to decide about it. > > a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it > b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, videogames... > (put a name in this option that you recommends) > c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about it) c) As with the last time this question was asked (when you packaged Xonotic), I believe we should use "~user" repositories for added packages. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silva escreveu: > Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux > or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we > have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! > So, we open a votation to decide about it. > > a) Create [games] to have libre games packages on it > b) Create a repo for games but with other name eg: gamers, videogames... > (put a name in this option that you recommends) > c) Don't create repo, it is not necessary (explain the motives about it) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev My vote is A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Wed May 2 19:44:44 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 16:44:44 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Repo situation Was: Re: Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <87y5pa74gj.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Tue, 01 May 2012 02:50:33 -0300, Andr? Silva wrote: > Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux > or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we > have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! > So, we open a votation to decide about it. [...] Since several have expressed concern about the growing amount of repos being included, I think it would be best to re-discuss the repo policy. So far we agreed to have repos per [project] and [~user], though some propposed to have [parabola-community] or whatever. Do you think this should be changed? 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Silva wrote: >> Hi Parabolers, i found a lot of libre games that is not are in Archlinux >> or Parabola and there are others package included in wrong repos, eg: we >> have mednafen-wip on social because don't have repo for it! >> So, we open a votation to decide about it. > [...] > > Since several have expressed concern about the growing amount of repos > being included, I think it would be best to re-discuss the repo policy. > > So far we agreed to have repos per [project] and [~user], though some > propposed to have [parabola-community] or whatever. Do you think > this should be changed? Explain your position, of course. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > I think that we should to have a new political rules about repos. i thought 2 ways: 1) to have libre, personal repos and parabola-community or a PUR, no more repos like "artistic", "social", i think that mtjm and others are right in this point and it is my opinion too. or 2) if we have social, artistic, etc. We should to have repo categories eg: games, artistic, social. but, to have social, artistic, but not other categories like games and/or others is wrong in my opinion. I prefer the option number 1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As a user, I have to list more repos in /etc/pacman.conf or not find some packages. I don't know a mapping from problems solved by packages to repos. Maybe databases fetched are smaller due to not including some packages there, it's not a problem since fetching them normally is faster than e.g. downloading packages to install. I know two arguments for Arch having multiple repos: they have different quality policies, and some are for testing packages before putting them in stable repos. We don't do these things (although they would be beneficial in some cases), so these arguments don't apply here (and certainly not for completely new packages not replacing other packages). Changing it to have a single repo for all packages not taken directly From Arch would make it obvious which repo to choose and would be simpler. Debian and Trisquel practically have one repo, I never noticed problems with this solution. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Thu May 3 03:48:18 2012 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:48:18 -0400 Subject: [Dev] Repo situation Was: Re: Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <871un2xs5b.fsf@mtjm.eu> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> <87y5pa74gj.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <871un2xs5b.fsf@mtjm.eu> Message-ID: <87zk9pc4cd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> I thought this visualization may help (excluding testing repos): quality: |==========High=========| |===Good==| |Anything-goes| Arch: [core] [extra] [multilib] [community] Parabola: [====libre===] [~*] Special purpose: [cross] [artistic] [elementary] [gnu] [kernels] [social] I don't know: [gis] [radio] At Wed, 02 May 2012 22:08:32 +0200, Micha? Mas?owski wrote: > > So far we agreed to have repos per [project] and [~user], though some > > propposed to have [parabola-community] or whatever. Do you think > > this should be changed? Explain your position, of course. > > How having different repos is beneficial (for users or packagers)? > > I know two arguments for Arch having multiple repos: they have different > quality policies, and some are for testing packages before putting them > in stable repos. We don't do these things (although they would be > beneficial in some cases), so these arguments don't apply here (and > certainly not for completely new packages not replacing other packages). Right now I view the different repos as having different quality policies/sources. The user repos are like the AUR in that anything goes (as long as it is free). However, some of us may actually have strict standards on the quality, so there is a usefulness in keeping them in separate user repos lets users say "I trust packages from [~fauno], but not [~lukeshu], the latter has all unstable beta crap and half-working installs." (only kinda true :) ) [libre] is for high-quality "important" packages that provide free solutions to problems in Arch's [core] and [extra]. As for the "special purpose" repos, I think a few have a place, but most don't. I think that [cross] definately has a place, similar to [multilib]. I'm not sure about [kernels]. I do think we should have a [parabola-community] (or similar) that would take over [elementary], [gnu], [social], and others. It would be where packages from user repositories could graduate to if they are well maintained and good-quality. ~ Luke Shumaker > As a user, I have to list more repos in /etc/pacman.conf or not find > some packages. I don't know a mapping from problems solved by packages > to repos. Maybe databases fetched are smaller due to not including some > packages there, it's not a problem since fetching them normally is > faster than e.g. downloading packages to install. > > > Changing it to have a single repo for all packages not taken directly > From Arch would make it obvious which repo to choose and would be > simpler. > > Debian and Trisquel practically have one repo, I never noticed problems > with this solution. From hahj87 at gmail.com Fri May 4 16:40:44 2012 From: hahj87 at gmail.com (Joshua Ismael Haase Hernandez) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 11:40:44 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Repo situation Was: Re: Votation to put [games] repo on our distro In-Reply-To: <87zk9pc4cd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F9F79A9.5050002@adinet.com.uy> <87y5pa74gj.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <871un2xs5b.fsf@mtjm.eu> <87zk9pc4cd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87fwbfyk4z.fsf@parabola.nu> I go for not creating another repo but group most special purpose repos on [parabola-community] or so. As mtjm has pointed out there is no benefit on having multiple repos but to make a disctintion on quality. On Wed, 02 May 2012 23:48:18 -0400, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > I thought this visualization may help (excluding testing repos): > > quality: |==========High=========| |===Good==| |Anything-goes| > Arch: [core] [extra] [multilib] [community] > Parabola: [====libre===] [~*] > > Special purpose: > [cross] [artistic] [elementary] [gnu] [kernels] [social] > I don't know: > [gis] [radio] > > At Wed, 02 May 2012 22:08:32 +0200, > Micha? Mas?owski wrote: > > > So far we agreed to have repos per [project] and [~user], though some > > > propposed to have [parabola-community] or whatever. Do you think > > > this should be changed? Explain your position, of course. > > > > How having different repos is beneficial (for users or packagers)? > > > > I know two arguments for Arch having multiple repos: they have different > > quality policies, and some are for testing packages before putting them > > in stable repos. We don't do these things (although they would be > > beneficial in some cases), so these arguments don't apply here (and > > certainly not for completely new packages not replacing other packages). > > Right now I view the different repos as having different quality > policies/sources. The user repos are like the AUR in that anything > goes (as long as it is free). However, some of us may actually have > strict standards on the quality, so there is a usefulness in keeping > them in separate user repos lets users say "I trust packages from > [~fauno], but not [~lukeshu], the latter has all unstable beta crap > and half-working installs." (only kinda true :) ) > > [libre] is for high-quality "important" packages that provide free > solutions to problems in Arch's [core] and [extra]. > > As for the "special purpose" repos, I think a few have a place, but > most don't. I think that [cross] definately has a place, similar to > [multilib]. I'm not sure about [kernels]. > > I do think we should have a [parabola-community] (or similar) that > would take over [elementary], [gnu], [social], and others. It would be > where packages from user repositories could graduate to if they are > well maintained and good-quality. > > ~ Luke Shumaker > > > As a user, I have to list more repos in /etc/pacman.conf or not find > > some packages. I don't know a mapping from problems solved by packages > > to repos. Maybe databases fetched are smaller due to not including some > > packages there, it's not a problem since fetching them normally is > > faster than e.g. downloading packages to install. > > Changing it to have a single repo for all packages not taken directly > > From Arch would make it obvious which repo to choose and would be > > simpler. + 1 > > Debian and Trisquel practically have one repo, I never noticed problems > > with this solution. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I applied this changes to repo at repo.parabolagnulinux.org, so everyone that's allowed on hackers.git has access to git and package repos now. If you add a key, push and then pull on the repo server. -- D: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 554 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mtjm at mtjm.eu Sat May 5 11:39:25 2012 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 13:39:25 +0200 Subject: [Dev] GIMP is not libre (GIMP-LIBRE soon) In-Reply-To: <4FA4EEBF.3000801@adinet.com.uy> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Andr=C3=A9?= Silva"'s message of "Sat, 05 May 2012 06:11:27 -0300") References: <4FA4EEBF.3000801@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <87y5p63lhu.fsf@mtjm.eu> > Hi guys, yesterday gimp 2.8 was released and include a splash screen > that doesn't respect our freedom > http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00420-gimp-2-8-finally-released > > "This work by Richard Hirner is licensed under the > Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported terms." I know these other facts: - http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00419-gsoc-2012-gimp-gegl-projects has a similar caption - the LICENSE file in gimp-2.8.0 source states this: * The GIMP application core, and other portions of the official GIMP distribution not explicitly licensed otherwise, are licensed under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE -- see the 'COPYING' file in this directory for details. - the data/images/gimp-splash.png file has no license-related metadata and no other file in obvious place like that directory states any copying information - you haven't posted any reference to the GIMP source here. I believe this caption is incorrect or refers to the review instead of to the image. So it's not a problem in the GIMP or Parabola. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mas?owski escreveu: >> Hi guys, yesterday gimp 2.8 was released and include a splash screen >> that doesn't respect our freedom >> http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00420-gimp-2-8-finally-released >> >> "This work by Richard Hirner is licensed under the >> Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported terms." > I know these other facts: > > - http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00419-gsoc-2012-gimp-gegl-projects has a > similar caption > > - the LICENSE file in gimp-2.8.0 source states this: > > * The GIMP application core, and other portions of the official GIMP > distribution not explicitly licensed otherwise, are licensed under > the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE -- see the 'COPYING' file in this > directory for details. > > - the data/images/gimp-splash.png file has no license-related metadata > and no other file in obvious place like that directory states any > copying information > > - you haven't posted any reference to the GIMP source here. > > I believe this caption is incorrect or refers to the review instead of > to the image. So it's not a problem in the GIMP or Parabola. > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Ah ok Michal Maslowski, thanks for the information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 554 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Sun May 6 01:13:24 2012 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 21:13:24 -0400 Subject: [Dev] GIMP is not libre (GIMP-LIBRE soon) In-Reply-To: <87y5p63lhu.fsf@mtjm.eu> References: <4FA4EEBF.3000801@adinet.com.uy> <87y5p63lhu.fsf@mtjm.eu> Message-ID: <878vh63ydn.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Hopefully it is just a misunderstanding. However, if GIMP really is non-libre, we should file a bug report or send an email to some GNU list, as part of the GNU project, if we have libre issues with it, so does GNU. ~ Luke Shumaker At Sat, 05 May 2012 13:39:25 +0200, Micha? Mas?owski wrote: > [1 ] > [1.1 ] > > Hi guys, yesterday gimp 2.8 was released and include a splash screen > > that doesn't respect our freedom > > http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00420-gimp-2-8-finally-released > > > > "This work by Richard Hirner is licensed under the > > Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported terms." > > I know these other facts: > > - http://www.gimpusers.com/news/00419-gsoc-2012-gimp-gegl-projects has a > similar caption > > - the LICENSE file in gimp-2.8.0 source states this: > > * The GIMP application core, and other portions of the official GIMP > distribution not explicitly licensed otherwise, are licensed under > the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE -- see the 'COPYING' file in this > directory for details. > > - the data/images/gimp-splash.png file has no license-related metadata > and no other file in obvious place like that directory states any > copying information > > - you haven't posted any reference to the GIMP source here. > > I believe this caption is incorrect or refers to the review instead of > to the image. So it's not a problem in the GIMP or Parabola. > [1.2 ] > > [2 ] > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev From gnu.tek at gmx.com Sun May 6 14:45:28 2012 From: gnu.tek at gmx.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?=) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 16:45:28 +0200 Subject: [Dev] build files of the core Message-ID: <87ehqxqsfr.fsf@bob.domain.org> Hi, It seems that the udev 182-2 have break most of version of Parabola GNU / Linux-libre users distro like kete and maybe some more. Why files corresponding to the core are not send to testing first (for testing) before being upload to the stable one. That should be a better reference and security for our users. Security is not only a cryptographic question, but a stability edition. Me vote +1 to push core corresponding things to testing first before stable. -- Aurelien - Animateur P at m-Sarte http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Aurelien Free Software & Zen Minimalism Hactivist Fight for your freedom rights! Join FSF.org Fully Free Operating System at GNU.org From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Sun May 6 16:59:45 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 13:59:45 -0300 Subject: [Dev] build files of the core In-Reply-To: <87ehqxqsfr.fsf@bob.domain.org> References: <87ehqxqsfr.fsf@bob.domain.org> Message-ID: <4FA6AE01.4030207@adinet.com.uy> Em 06-05-2012 11:45, Aur?lien escreveu: > Hi, > > It seems that the udev 182-2 have break most of version of Parabola GNU > / Linux-libre users distro like kete and maybe some more. > > Why files corresponding to the core are not send to testing first (for > testing) before being upload to the stable one. > > That should be a better reference and security for our users. > > Security is not only a cryptographic question, but a stability edition. > > Me vote +1 to push core corresponding things to testing first before stable. > I reported this problem on archlinux to resolve udev bug https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/29784 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So it's not a problem in the GIMP or Parabola. I hope that's true and I am wrong. But other splash besides the default one is always welcome :) -- Jorge Araya Navarro Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. http://swt.encyclomundi.net Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, ??despierta ahora!!: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html http://replicant.us/about/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silva (emulatorman) began creating a libre version of Icedove without non-free addons and non-free searchplugins including the advantage of free trademark provided by Icedove. Since today, Parabola GNU/Linux-libre has Icedove-Libre with Language Packs included on [libre] repo. Enjoy the Freedom! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The specific problem is that it disallows selling unmodified copies and requires rebranding modified versions, the second part isn't a problem (since modifications already require changing the program; other free programs like TeX have a similar requirement), except when someone modifies it to e.g. not recommend nonfree addons while not rebranding it. (Would call it one of available mail clients, haven't seen it named a "primary mail".) > Debian Icedove exists for two purposes; because of the trademark > issues, and in order to meet Debian quality standards, but this > program is not free because contains non-free addons and non-free > searchplugins. We don't call such programs nonfree. Addons are recommended, not included; aren't searchplugins trivial files stating how to access an external search engine (we don't run these, so they have different problems than free or nonfree software)? > So, M?rcio Silva (coadde) and Andr? Silva (emulatorman) began creating > a libre version of Icedove without non-free addons and non-free > searchplugins including the advantage of free trademark provided by > Icedove. Icedove is a trademark? (This will probably make having a Thunderbird-like mail client on mips64el easier.) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Wed May 9 12:57:37 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIFNpbHZh?=) Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 09:57:37 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Icedove-libre is now available on [libre] repo In-Reply-To: <87mx5hpyx6.fsf@mtjm.eu> References: <4FAA1AC0.7080302@adinet.com.uy> <87mx5hpyx6.fsf@mtjm.eu> Message-ID: <4FAA69C1.6000606@adinet.com.uy> Em 09-05-2012 04:59, Micha? Mas?owski escreveu: >> For a long time our primary mail was Thunderbird, but a libre version >> with free addons eliminating non-free addons, but thunderbird has a >> issue; this program has non-free trademark licensing. > The specific problem is that it disallows selling unmodified copies and > requires rebranding modified versions, the second part isn't a problem > (since modifications already require changing the program; other free > programs like TeX have a similar requirement), except when someone > modifies it to e.g. not recommend nonfree addons while not rebranding > it. > > (Would call it one of available mail clients, haven't seen it named a > "primary mail".) > >> Debian Icedove exists for two purposes; because of the trademark >> issues, and in order to meet Debian quality standards, but this >> program is not free because contains non-free addons and non-free >> searchplugins. > We don't call such programs nonfree. Addons are recommended, not > included; aren't searchplugins trivial files stating how to access an > external search engine (we don't run these, so they have different > problems than free or nonfree software)? > >> So, M?rcio Silva (coadde) and Andr? Silva (emulatorman) began creating >> a libre version of Icedove without non-free addons and non-free >> searchplugins including the advantage of free trademark provided by >> Icedove. > Icedove is a trademark? > > (This will probably make having a Thunderbird-like mail client on > mips64el easier.) > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Mtjm, thanks for the information, i improved the news message on main site, i put it: /"We recently added the Debian Icedove mail client to the [libre] repo (actually "icedove-libre"), and encourage Thunderbird users to switch. For a long time our one of available mail clients was Thunderbird-libre (a version with free addons and free searchplugins) but the specific problem is that it disallows selling unmodified copies and requires rebranding modified versions. Icedove is an e-mail client distributed by the Debian project. It is based on Mozilla Thunderbird. With Icedove, the Debian project aims to provide a version of the Mozilla Thunderbird e-mail client which has not yet been kept in synchronization with upstream development of Thunderbird as originally planned. It removes the proprietary artwork and plug-in repositories used in the official release by the Mozilla Corporation, but this program has a freedom issue: recommends non-free addons and non-free searchplugins. So, M?rcio Silva (coadde) and Andr? Silva (emulatorman) began creating a libre version of Icedove without non-free addons and non-free searchplugins including the advantage provided by Icedove, so that Parabola could continue to distribute the software with modifications permitted, without being bound by the use of trademark requirements that the Mozilla Foundation had invoked. Since today, Parabola GNU/Linux-libre has Icedove-Libre with Language Packs included on [libre] repo. Enjoy the Freedom!" / If you found a other issue on here, please alert me about it, and i will modify the message again ;) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some of the "default" searchplugin files (trivial XML files) employ non-free or non-privacy-friendly network services. Because multiple Mozilla-based programs were all implementing their own list of "libre searchplugins", we now have "mozilla-searchplugins" on libre (used by Iceweasel and IceCat). Not urgent, but when the next package of icedove is being released, it should symlink /usr/lib/icedove/searchplugins to /usr/mozilla/searchplugins, and add 'mozilla-searchplugins' as a depenency. ~ Luke Shumaker From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Thu May 10 22:23:29 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIFNpbHZh?=) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:23:29 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Icedove-libre is now available on [libre] repo In-Reply-To: <87k40jogzv.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <4FAA1AC0.7080302@adinet.com.uy> <87mx5hpyx6.fsf@mtjm.eu> <87k40jogzv.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4FAC3FE1.8050900@adinet.com.uy> Em 10-05-2012 18:36, Luke T.Shumaker escreveu: > At Wed, 09 May 2012 09:59:49 +0200, > Micha? Mas?owski wrote: >>> Debian Icedove exists for two purposes; because of the trademark >>> issues, and in order to meet Debian quality standards, but this >>> program is not free because contains non-free addons and non-free >>> searchplugins. >> aren't searchplugins trivial files stating how to access an >> external search engine (we don't run these, so they have different >> problems than free or nonfree software)? > Some of the "default" searchplugin files (trivial XML files) employ > non-free or non-privacy-friendly network services. > > Because multiple Mozilla-based programs were all implementing their > own list of "libre searchplugins", we now have "mozilla-searchplugins" > on libre (used by Iceweasel and IceCat). > > Not urgent, but when the next package of icedove is being released, it > should symlink /usr/lib/icedove/searchplugins to > /usr/mozilla/searchplugins, and add 'mozilla-searchplugins' as a > depenency. > > ~ Luke Shumaker > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Thanks Lukeshu, i will rebuild a new release for Icedove with our mozilla-searchplugins -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mas?owski wrote: >>> Debian Icedove exists for two purposes; because of the trademark >>> issues, and in order to meet Debian quality standards, but this >>> program is not free because contains non-free addons and non-free >>> searchplugins. >> aren't searchplugins trivial files stating how to access an >> external search engine (we don't run these, so they have different >> problems than free or nonfree software)? > Some of the "default" searchplugin files (trivial XML files) employ > non-free or non-privacy-friendly network services. > > Because multiple Mozilla-based programs were all implementing their > own list of "libre searchplugins", we now have "mozilla-searchplugins" > on libre (used by Iceweasel and IceCat). > > Not urgent, but when the next package of icedove is being released, it > should symlink /usr/lib/icedove/searchplugins to > /usr/mozilla/searchplugins, and add 'mozilla-searchplugins' as a > depenency. > > ~ Luke Shumaker > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Lukeshu, I uploaded in this moment icedove-libre-11.0-4 with mozilla-searchplugins dependency included. 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Silva wrote: > Em 10-05-2012 18:36, Luke T.Shumaker escreveu: > > Not urgent, but when the next package of icedove is being released, it > > should symlink /usr/lib/icedove/searchplugins to > > /usr/mozilla/searchplugins, and add 'mozilla-searchplugins' as a > > depenency. > > > > ~ Luke Shumaker > > Lukeshu, I uploaded in this moment icedove-libre-11.0-4 with > mozilla-searchplugins dependency included. Thanks for the information > about it. You're welcome! ~ Luke Shumaker From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Sun May 13 15:51:48 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 12:51:48 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Iceape-libre is now available on [libre] repo and completes the "Debian Internet Pack" Message-ID: <4FAFD894.9030205@adinet.com.uy> Hi parabolers, as you know, Parabola has Iceweasel and in the last week Icedove-libre was released, but remained one to complete theDebian Internet Pack. The names established by Debian were Iceweasel for Mozilla Firefox, Icedove for Mozilla Thunderbird, and Iceape for Seamonkey. So, Andr? Silva (Emulatorman) began creating a libre version of Iceape, without non-free addons and non-free searchplugins including the advantage provided by Iceape to distribute the software with modifications permitted, without being bound by the use of trademark requirements that the Mozilla Foundation had invoked. *Iceape* is an Internet Suite distributed by the Debian project. Iceape is based on Seamonkey. The Debian project aims with Iceape to provide a version of the Seamonkey internet suite which is kept in synchronization with upstream development of SeaMonkey while removing the proprietary artwork and plug-in repositories used in the official release by the SeaMonkey//Council, which are classified as non-free by free software advocates. 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Silva escreveu: > Hi parabolers, as you know, Parabola has Iceweasel and in the last > week Icedove-libre was released, but remained one to complete > theDebian Internet Pack. > > The names established by Debian were Iceweasel for Mozilla Firefox, > Icedove for Mozilla Thunderbird, and Iceape for Seamonkey. > > So, Andr? Silva (Emulatorman) began creating a libre version of > Iceape, without non-free addons and non-free searchplugins including > the advantage provided by Iceape to distribute the software with > modifications permitted, without being bound by the use of trademark > requirements that the Mozilla Foundation had invoked. > > *Iceape* is an Internet Suite distributed by the Debian project. > Iceape is based on Seamonkey. The Debian project aims with Iceape to > provide a version of the Seamonkey internet suite which is kept in > synchronization with upstream development of SeaMonkey while removing > the proprietary artwork and plug-in repositories used in the official > release by the SeaMonkey//Council, which are classified as non-free by > free software advocates. > > Since today, Parabola GNU/Linux-libre has the libre version of Iceape > on [libre] repo, thus completing the Debian Internet Pack for your > freedom! > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev OBS: *Marcio (coadde) participates too in the Iceape-libre creation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I also didn't found > this issues at > http://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines > > Personally I checked Parabola and Trisquel (couldn't locate BLAGs > source repo), but other free distros might very possible affected as > well. > > > lame > ==== > http://www.connochaetos.org/forum/topic.php?id=1494 > > In lame-3.98.4/frontend/portableio.c > > * This code may be used and freely distributed as long as it > includes > * this copyright notice and the warranty information. > > So it can be used and distributed, but says nothing about being able to > modify it. > > Found in ConnochaetOS, Parabola and Trisquel I just confirmed the 3.99 release removed the portableio files http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lame/lame/frontend/portableio.c?view=log&pathrev=MAIN -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe the project is going in the right direction as far as I can see and hope to help make it even better. -- Robert Call(Bob) FSF Member #8115 http://bobcall.me From gnu.tek at gmx.com Fri May 18 04:47:45 2012 From: gnu.tek at gmx.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?=) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 06:47:45 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <4FB5A5E0.30107@bobcall.me> (RISCi ATOM's message of "Thu, 17 May 2012 21:29:04 -0400") References: <4FB5A5E0.30107@bobcall.me> Message-ID: <87fwayf632.fsf@bob.domain.org> RISCi_ATOM writes: Welcome on Board Bob :) > I have someone interested in using > Parabola in a desktop production environment, but it does not seem to > work for their needs at this point in time. What does he need? You should tell him to join us on irc.freenode.net #parabola > I believe the project is going in the right direction as far as I can > see and hope to help make it even better. Great! -- Aurelien DESBRIERES Get action! Join Computers Without Borders http://www.cwb.io From jorgean at lavabit.com Fri May 18 04:59:35 2012 From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 22:59:35 -0600 Subject: [Dev] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <4FB5A5E0.30107@bobcall.me> References: <4FB5A5E0.30107@bobcall.me> Message-ID: <1337317175.30045.2.camel@abril.local> El jue, 17-05-2012 a las 21:29 -0400, RISCi_ATOM escribi?: > Hello everyone, > Sorry for cluttering your dev list with this intro message, but I will > try to make it brief. I am RISCi_ATOM and I would like to help improve > the mips64el build of Parabola. I have someone interested in using > Parabola in a desktop production environment, but it does not seem to > work for their needs at this point in time. My goal is to make > contributions to the project that help meet the needs of the previously > mentioned person and help the project in general. > > I believe the project is going in the right direction as far as I can > see and hope to help make it even better. > Hello and welcome aboard! :D -- Jorge Araya Navarro Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. http://swt.encyclomundi.net Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, ??despierta ahora!!: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html http://replicant.us/about/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My goal is > > to make contributions to the project that help meet the needs of > > the previously mentioned person and help the project in general. > > > > I believe the project is going in the right direction as far as I > > can see and hope to help make it even better. > > > > Hello and welcome aboard! :D > greetings! -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective & Curious Antiquary email & xmpp: cer at parlementum.net microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My goal is to make > contributions to the project that help meet the needs of the > previously mentioned person and help the project in general. > > I believe the project is going in the right direction as far as I can > see and hope to help make it even better. It would be easier if we knew what needs to be changed. Please report bugs on?[0] (some older issues are available on?[1], not migrated yet?[2]). It's ok to ask here for development-related help, IRC has a bigger problem with timezone differences. Are there specific issues you want to the improve or skills you want to use or learn? [0] https://labs.parabola.nu/projects/mips64el/issues [1] https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/ [2] https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A speach at the Faculty of Pasquale Paoli > . A yeelong install party with a hacker from Parabola (for the new > student of computing of the faculty (and offer a yeelong to each > student(if possible (?ric?)))) > > Someone is trying to install Parabola for me on an Yeeloong and finds > a number of problems. He wants to help fix them. > > Can you buy Yeeloongs now? They are no longer made. > Do you know of a source of Yeeloongs, or are you just assuming? > > P.S.: ?ric ... un barbecue ? la maison te tenterais? This thread / message seems to be broken so I will cut to the chance. I am working to make parabola GNU/Linux more usable for RMS. At this point in time I am setting up a build server and work environment for cross-compiling packages. Once I have successfully built Parabola, I am going to move on to build packages that are not yet part of the mips64el build of Parabola. As for other having a lemote for testing, I am playing with qemu and figuring out the best practice for setting up a public mips64el instance of parabola for those who do not seem to have the resources to emulate the Lemote Yeeloong. I will make an announcement when I have this up and running. -- Robert Call(Bob) FSF Member #8115 http://bobcall.me From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon May 21 20:01:35 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 17:01:35 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [Richard Stallman] Re: Hello from Corsica In-Reply-To: <4FBA96F0.9000108@bobcall.me> References: <87hav91luj.fsf@bob.domain.org> <4FBA96F0.9000108@bobcall.me> Message-ID: <878vgl717k.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> RISCi_ATOM writes: > On 05/20/2012 02:24 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: >> . A speach at the Faculty of Pasquale Paoli >> . A yeelong install party with a hacker from Parabola (for the new >> student of computing of the faculty (and offer a yeelong to each >> student(if possible (ric?)))) >> >> Someone is trying to install Parabola for me on an Yeeloong and finds >> a number of problems. He wants to help fix them. >> >> Can you buy Yeeloongs now? They are no longer made. >> Do you know of a source of Yeeloongs, or are you just assuming? >> >> P.S.: ric ... un barbecue la maison te tenterais? > > This thread / message seems to be broken so I will cut to the chance. I > am working to make parabola GNU/Linux more usable for RMS. At this point > in time I am setting up a build server and work environment for > cross-compiling packages. Once I have successfully built Parabola, I am > going to move on to build packages that are not yet part of the mips64el > build of Parabola. > > As for other having a lemote for testing, I am playing with qemu and > figuring out the best practice for setting up a public mips64el instance > of parabola for those who do not seem to have the resources to emulate > the Lemote Yeeloong. I will make an announcement when I have this up and > running. Cool! we've been working on cross-compiling toolchains for mips64el, so far only some of us (me and?) use a cross-toolchain to build packages, using distcc from a native host. this process is explained on our wiki[1]. we also created a set of PKGBUILDs[2] aimed at cross-toolchains. this set initially built for gcc 4.6 but the update to 4.7 introduced a lot of build errors we couldn't debug yet. 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I am not going to hold my breath on this one. -- Robert Call(Bob) FSF Member #8115 http://bobcall.me From korobkov at fryxell.info Tue May 22 11:17:15 2012 From: korobkov at fryxell.info (Andrey Korobkov) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:17:15 +0400 Subject: [Dev] New mirror Message-ID: Hello, all I propose my new "on demand" parabola repo mirror https://parabola.fryxell.info to official mirrorlist. The machine is only 14*7 now (not 24*7 yet, it's planned just after next hardware upgrade), but fauno says it still could be useful... Work hours: 8.00 - 22.00 (UTC+4), but I usually go sleep some hours later ;) Network: dual-stack (IPv6 via Hurricane Electric's tunnel + IPv4) with static IPs. Connectivity: unlimited 20Mbit/s symmetric FTTB line. 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Is it normal that it mirror just /extra /fryxell /libre and not the rest of repositories? -- Aurelien DESBRIERES Get action! Join Computers Without Borders http://www.cwb.io From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Tue May 22 15:14:50 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 12:14:50 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [pcr] repo is now available Message-ID: <4FBBAD6A.3080202@adinet.com.uy> We're very happy to announce that we have a new repo called pcr (Parabola Community Repo). This repo is for the Parabola's Community to put libre packages that don't have Parabola. So, if you want put a libre package, this repo is specific for this case! To have this repo, you must to add it on your pacman.conf. |[pcr] #SigLevel = PackageOptional Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[1]; http://i.imgur.com/1byRj.jpg [2]; http://i.imgur.com/5pB8z.jpg [3]; http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/801318 Regards, -- 2012/5/22 Paul Roge > > Can you buy Yeeloongs now? They are no longer made. > > Do you know of a source of Yeeloongs, or are you just assuming? > > just curious... does anyone know if there are plans for the yeeloong will > be produced again, or replaced by another model? > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Taibo -------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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They are no longer made. >>> Do you know of a source of Yeeloongs, or are you just assuming? > >> just curious... does anyone know if there are plans for the yeeloong will > be produced again, or replaced by another model? > > Lemote plans to launch the Yeeloong 8133 and a Mini-ITX (Loongson 3A with > four cores)[1][2] later this year. > > Currently, is not possible to buy hardware from the official Lemote store > in Aliexpress?[3] > > There are records of recent purchases from this year (the last purchase, if > I not mistaken, in February). > > [1]; http://i.imgur.com/1byRj.jpg > [2]; http://i.imgur.com/5pB8z.jpg > [3]; http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/801318 > This is great news, but will its firmware be free as well? -- Robert Call(Bob) FSF Member #8115 http://bobcall.me From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue May 22 18:50:43 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:50:43 -0300 Subject: [Dev] New mirror In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <874nr8gid8.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Andrey Korobkov writes: > Hello, all > > I propose my new "on demand" parabola repo mirror > https://parabola.fryxell.info to official mirrorlist. > > The machine is only 14*7 now (not 24*7 yet, it's planned just after next hardware upgrade), > but fauno says it still could be useful... > > Work hours: 8.00 - 22.00 (UTC+4), but I usually go sleep some hours later ;) > Network: dual-stack (IPv6 via Hurricane Electric's tunnel + IPv4) with static IPs. > Connectivity: unlimited 20Mbit/s symmetric FTTB line. > HTTPS CACert fingerprint: SHA1 03:1C:66:7D:40:3E:9B:C8:D0:65:8E:80:01:6A:A7:57:CF:67:7A:51 > > # Location: Ulyanovsk, Russia > # Responsible: 4096R/177A2DB9EA08BF5D Andrey Korobkov > Server = https://parabola.fryxell.info/$repo/os/$arch > #also available as plain http Server = http://parabola.fryxell.info/$repo/os/$arch Pushing an update... :D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are no longer made. >>> Do you know of a source of Yeeloongs, or are you just assuming? > >>just curious... does anyone know if there are plans for the yeeloong will > be produced again, or replaced by another model? > > Lemote plans to launch the Yeeloong 8133 and a Mini-ITX (Loongson 3A with > four cores)[1][2] later this year. > > Currently, is not possible to buy hardware from the official Lemote store > in Aliexpress?[3] > > There are records of recent purchases from this year (the last purchase, if > I not mistaken, in February). > > [1]; http://i.imgur.com/1byRj.jpg > [2]; http://i.imgur.com/5pB8z.jpg > [3]; http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/801318 aren't those ATI gpus? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The md5sum and sha1sum both match the for the file in openssh-6.0p1-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz downloaded directly from an Arch mirror. ~ Luke Shumaker At Wed, 23 May 2012 13:52:52 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > was openssh updated on the server? > > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:59:31 GMT > From: monit at parabolagnulinux.org > Subject: [Maintenance] monit alert -- Checksum failed sshd_bin > To: maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > Message-id: <1337774372.1318709888 at repo.parabolagnulinux.org> > Reply-To: For maintenance stuff > > Checksum failed Service sshd_bin > > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:59:31 > Action: alert > Host: repo.parabolagnulinux.org > Description: checksum test failed for /usr/sbin/sshd > > Your faithful employee, > Monit From mforestier at free.fr Fri May 25 18:25:36 2012 From: mforestier at free.fr (mForestier) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 20:25:36 +0200 Subject: [Dev] presentation, thanks, contribute Message-ID: <20120525182536.GA985@LY8089> Hi! This is my first message on this list, so I introduce myself: (I'm a french man with a very poor english, my apologize) I began with Linux in the middle of the 90's , just before 1.0 kernel version. As distrib I've used Slakware. For personals reasons, I stopped any computing activities until last year, when I discovered OpenMoko phone. After I bought it, to flash it, to develop, ..., I heard about a free (as freedom) netbook: Lemote Yeeloong. This is with it I'm writing to you. I've tested Debian, ok, but too sophisticated for me, gNewSense, ok, but after more and more difficulties with it, I uninstalled everything to begin again of zero and I noticed that the installer was crashed. And because I'm not very happy with gNewSense, Ubuntu-philosophy, I would like to test ArchLinux-Libre, kiss philosophy! And for 1 month I'm using Parabola (parabola-mips64el-20120304) I'm very happy with it. I have not used yet testing packages, only base, libre, community and some compiled software myself, like dfu-util to flash FreeRunner and xbboot+usbboot for the Ben-NanoNote. Now, I'm also a FSFE-Fellower (1 week!) I would so thanks you all for having made ParabolaGnu as it is! And now I would want to contribute to make it better, known, ... Looking forward to reading you! ;-) a -- FSFE FellowShip #2243 [ ] | mforestier.free.fr ,= ,-_-. =. mforestier(@)fsfe.org [ ][ ][ ] | mforestier(@)free.fr ((_/)o o(\_)) blogs.fsfe.org/mforestier [|] | identi.ca/mforestier `-'(. .)`-' _____________________________________| diaspod.fr/u/mforestier \_/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nice to make your acquaintance, I don't use testing and wouldn't recommend it unless I was doing exactly that: testing packages, debugging them and getting them ready for the main repositories (repos). Please join us in the chat: irc.freenode.org #parabola Later, Kete/handheldCar From mtjm at mtjm.eu Fri May 25 19:09:49 2012 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 21:09:49 +0200 Subject: [Dev] presentation, thanks, contribute In-Reply-To: <20120525182536.GA985@LY8089> (mforestier@free.fr's message of "Fri, 25 May 2012 20:25:36 +0200") References: <20120525182536.GA985@LY8089> Message-ID: <87vcjkyt4y.fsf@mtjm.eu> Hi. (Not CC-ing the mipsel list, probably all its subscribers are also subscribed to the dev list.) > And because I'm not very happy with gNewSense, Ubuntu-philosophy, I would > like to test ArchLinux-Libre, kiss philosophy! All gNewSense versions working on mipsel are based on Debian, unsure what Ubuntu philosophy is there (although its Debianness is one of my reasons to use Parabola). > And for 1 month I'm using Parabola (parabola-mips64el-20120304) I'm very > happy > with it. If you update it, there should be no need to remember the base tarball version (although there are some noticeable bugs in most base tarballs which can be quickly fixed). > I have not used yet testing packages, only base, libre, community and some > compiled software myself, like dfu-util to flash FreeRunner and > xbboot+usbboot for the Ben-NanoNote. The "testing" repo is not used for mips64el, it would probably only have non-architecture-specific packages from Arch. > And now I would want to contribute to make it better, known, ... What do you know or want to learn for contributing? There are many problems which could be easily fixed by someone knowing bash or C; I've seen also some packages that could benefit from assembly optimizations or that need implementing MIPS-specific functionality. If you build any of our packages, you will probably find some possible improvements in the documentation on wiki or in the packaging scripts. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From florian32 at gmx.de Sun May 27 21:19:43 2012 From: florian32 at gmx.de (Florian) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:19:43 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Parabola Logos and Artwork Message-ID: <1338153583.1449.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I'm a German student and former Archlinux-user ;) Last month I switched to Parabola GNU/Linux! Really great to have a totally free OS now with all the advantages of Archlinux. Some days ago I saw that there are no artworks in https://parabolagnulinux.org/art/ So I made a little design. It's inspired by the Archlinux-Logo but still has its own look. Of course it's licensed under CC-by-sa. I simply attached the files - hope this is okay. Thank you for your great work.. Florian Rommel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preview.png Type: image/png Size: 14954 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From florian32 at gmx.de Sun May 27 22:07:40 2012 From: florian32 at gmx.de (Florian) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 00:07:40 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Parabola Logos and Artwork In-Reply-To: <4FC29E13.70003@ninthfloor.org> References: <1338153583.1449.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4FC29E13.70003@ninthfloor.org> Message-ID: <1338156460.2327.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thank you! I attached a Logo with -libre BTW: The font used is URW Gothic L (gsfonts-Package) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's inspired by the Archlinux-Logo but still > has its own look. > Of course it's licensed under CC-by-sa. > I simply attached the files - hope this is okay. > > Thank you for your great work.. > Florian Rommel cool! there's some artwork around but no one took time to put it all together. maybe you want to create a wiki article with it? ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon May 28 18:14:28 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:14:28 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [Dave Reisner] [arch-dev-public] udev replaced by systemd-tools Message-ID: <87pq9op3zv.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> FYI -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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I found some artworks here: https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/bugs/issue196 https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/File:Parabolabw.png Is there any more? ...Should I put all these designs in one article? From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Tue May 29 16:44:08 2012 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:44:08 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Suggestion to have a RSS for maintainers Message-ID: <4FC4FCD8.3070508@adinet.com.uy> Hi guys, yesterday we talk on irc, and we had the idea to create a rss about non-free packages updates from Archlinux and Debian for the Maintainers, to update our libres packages. So, i think that it is necessary to avoid check together with free packages from archlinux, and separately from the debian packages (iceweasel, icedove and iceape). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mas?owski escreveu: >> Hi guys, yesterday we talk on irc, and we had the idea to create a rss >> about non-free packages updates from Archlinux and Debian for the >> Maintainers, to update our libres packages. >> So, i think that it is necessary to avoid check together with free >> packages from archlinux, and separately from the debian packages >> (iceweasel, icedove and iceape). > Reported an issue a long time ago, [0]. Would be nicer if something > sent a mail to a list if a replaced package is updated. > > [0] https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/bugs/issue412 > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Micha? Mas?owski, it is a good idea too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Would be nicer if something >> sent a mail to a list if a replaced package is updated. >> >> [0] https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/bugs/issue412 Long-long time ago I made a PHP script that processed Arch's package updates to create a new feed that contained only blacklisted packages. But since the original feed contained fewer items than the packages actually updated, we ended up missing some updates (better than nothing anyway). I may have it lying around if it's useful. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mas?owski escreveu: > >> Hi guys, yesterday we talk on irc, and we had the idea to create a > >> rss about non-free packages updates from Archlinux and Debian for > >> the Maintainers, to update our libres packages. > >> So, i think that it is necessary to avoid check together with free > >> packages from archlinux, and separately from the debian packages > >> (iceweasel, icedove and iceape). > > Reported an issue a long time ago, [0]. Would be nicer if something > > sent a mail to a list if a replaced package is updated. > > > > [0] https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/bugs/issue412 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dev mailing list > > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > Micha? Mas?owski, it is a good idea too. Actually Shackra wrote a python script to do this for me for my AUR packages. It monitors them for changes and sends an email. I'm sure it would work for libre as well... -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective & Curious Antiquary email & xmpp: cer at parlementum.net microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > @ERROR: max connections (100) reached -- try again later > rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1516) [Receiver=3.0.9] > > [1;1m[1;31m==> ERROR:[1;0m[1;1m An unknown error has occurred. Exiting...[1;0m > _______________________________________________ > Maintenance mailing list > Maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/maintenance -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What shall I do? From dclark at gnu.org Mon May 21 00:23:00 2012 From: dclark at gnu.org (Daniel Clark at GNU) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 00:23:00 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Info regarding X11 is too slow on Lemote Yeeloong Message-ID: FYI... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matt Turner Date: Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:49 PM Subject: [bug #28169] X11 is too slow To: Danny Clark , leio at gentoo.org, "Richard M. Stallman" < rms at gnu.org>, Robert Millan , Sylvain Beucler < beuc at gnu.org>, Graziano , Sam Geeraerts < samgee at elmundolibre.be>, Matt Turner , bernie at gnu.org, brett at fsf.org, Peter Olson , Roman Mamedov < romanrm at member.fsf.org>, zhangm at lemote.com, Karl Goetz Follow-up Comment #12, bug #28169 (project gnewsense): I've optimized pixman quite a bit with Loongson's multimedia instructions, using the existing MMX code. See http://mattst88.com/blog/2012/05/17/Optimizing_pixman_for_Loongson:_Process_and_Results/ They're available in pixman-0.25.6 and will be in the pixman-0.26.0 stable release. Further optimization work includes - Bilinear/nearest scaling compositing functions for pixman, which are *really* important for Firefox performance - Optimized xf86XVCopyPacked for Xv performance. Really, I think pixman should grow support for all these YUV-type formats, and the code in the X server should go away - There may be some way to improve XAA performance that's regressed a lot in the last few years, but I don't know if this is doable Then, there's the work of simply getting the upstream X server working on the Yeeloong.. It would help me if someone could tell me what the differences are between the upstream 1.7.6 siliconmotion driver and the 2.2.8 version -- and why the changes in the 2.2.8 driver aren't upstream? _______________________________________________________ Reply to this item at: _______________________________________________ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.nongnu.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: