From jorgean at lavabit.com Thu Mar 1 05:10:21 2012 From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:10:21 -0600 Subject: [Dev] [Assist] How can I compile a module for my kernel without having to recompile the whole kernel? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> > Hi! > > I'm using a laptop that needs the vt8623fb module and I don't know how > I can just compile the module alone since recompiling the whole kernel > (even if it's tweaked) takes way too much time on my machine. > > I've lost 3days doing nothing but unsuccessful researches on the > subject. > Now I spent something like 8~9hours compiling the kernel using the ABS > (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Compilation/Arch_Build_System) > with the modules I needed and it just ended up creating a dummy empty > package (while saying that everything was done successfully). > Not to mention that patching the kernel from 3.2 to 3.2.7 just fails > miserably for no reason (?!) so I had to tweak the PKGBUILD to grab > the GNU/Linux Libre Kernel 3.2.7 directly. > > It's seriously driving me mad and I'm starting to wonder if I just > doesn't have a IQ high enough to do all of theses things. > > If anyone knows how to help me, you have all my attention. For now > I'll just prevent myself from smashing this computer on the floor. > Also, before anyone start to answer my problem by not answering it: I > don't want to use another distribution than Parabola. I have a problem > and I want to fix it. > > Thank you all in advance for your answers, > Marc-Alexandre Espiaut I'm forwarding this message to the dev list because looks like nobody wants to help me out with the list for assist people. I can't help you out with that, is very technical for my skills, but, that module's source code is free as in freedom? sorry, we must ask first... -- Jorge Araya Navarro Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. http://swt.encyclomundi.net Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, ??despierta ahora!!: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html http://replicant.us/about/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Thu Mar 1 16:57:00 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:57:00 -0300 Subject: [Dev] mirrors needed Message-ID: <87zkc0mf8j.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> we used 400gib in package transfer from our kind host last month... and 250 in january. i think we should start encouraging a little mirroring, jokhra made one (please resend the url) and i can make a guide for on-demand mirroring with nginx :D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Sat Mar 3 04:37:25 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 01:37:25 -0300 Subject: [Dev] mirrors needed In-Reply-To: <871upagvdb.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> References: <87zkc0mf8j.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <87obsgmc8d.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <871upagvdb.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Message-ID: <87wr72fgfu.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 01:29:36 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:01:54 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:57:00 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > > we used 400gib in package transfer from our kind host last month... and > > > 250 in january. > > > > > > i think we should start encouraging a little mirroring, jokhra made one > > > (please resend the url) and i can make a guide for on-demand mirroring > > > with nginx :D > > > > I've added two issue reports about this: > > > > * Create P2P mirror infrastructure (Issue Tracker #29)[0] > > > > * On-demand mirroring (Issue Tracker #28)[1] > > > > > > -- > > [0]: http://labs.parabola.nu/issues/29 > > [1]: http://labs.parabola.nu/issues/28 > > :D https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/Mirroring_On_Demand > > johkra add your script too... though i'm changing the rsync port to 874 > since 873 is still filtered. 875 it is! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mas?owski : >> we used 400gib in package transfer from our kind host last month... and >> 250 in january. > > In package transfer or any networking of the repo server? ?Is the > increase caused by malicious bots crawling our site or more users often > updating their systems? > > Having specific data on this would show if encouraging using different > mirrors can solve the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon Mar 5 12:55:25 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:55:25 -0300 Subject: [Dev] mirrors needed In-Reply-To: <87mx7vh5y6.fsf@mtjm.eu> References: <87zkc0mf8j.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <87mx7vh5y6.fsf@mtjm.eu> Message-ID: <87399nky0y.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:17:53 +0100, mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) wrote: > > we used 400gib in package transfer from our kind host last month... and > > 250 in january. > > In package transfer or any networking of the repo server? Is the > increase caused by malicious bots crawling our site or more users often > updating their systems? > > Having specific data on this would show if encouraging using different > mirrors can solve the problem. we anonymize ips on logs so user agents may give you an idea block the bots! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon Mar 5 13:12:17 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:12:17 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [monit@parabolagnulinux.org] [Maintenance] monit alert -- Resource limit succeeded parabolagnulinux.org Message-ID: <87r4x7jioe.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> either we remove the alert or do something about the ram :P -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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The log file I used starts and ends with these lines: 127.0.0.1 - - [04/Mar/2012:03:45:11 +0000] "GET /isos/i686/parabola-2011.09.01-core-i686.iso HTTP/1.0" 206 45260 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)" "-" [...] 127.0.0.1 - - [05/Mar/2012:17:21:39 +0000] "GET /~lukeshu/os/x86_64/~lukeshu.db HTTP/1.1" 304 0 "-" "pacman/4.0.1 (Linux x86_64) libalpm/7.0.1" "-" This is the output of my script on this log: 1107005 /skins Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Qt/4.6.3 Safari/532.4 1336577 REPO Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120207 Iceweasel/10.0 1787250 /pool Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) 1911287 /pool Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) 1924266 REPO Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) 1938651 /index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=atom Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 2468956 /docs Wget 2651128 REPO SAMSUNG-SGH-E250/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Browser/6.2.3.3.c.1.101 (GUI) MMP/2.0 (compatible; Googlebot-Mobile/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 2662872 /other Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Ezooms/1.0; ezooms.bot at gmail.com) 3568939 /index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=atom Feedfetcher-Google; (+http://www.google.com/feedfetcher.html; 1 subscribers; feed-id=17208844250925112595) 3840112 REPO curl 3976814 REPO Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; YandexBot/3.0; +http://yandex.com/bots) 4384389 /sources Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html) 6889936 /other curl 11755784 /other DoCoMo/2.0 N905i(c100;TB;W24H16) (compatible; Googlebot-Mobile/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 11968356 REPO Axel 2.4 (Linux) 16766866 /isos DoCoMo/2.0 N905i(c100;TB;W24H16) (compatible; Googlebot-Mobile/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 18488177 /other SAMSUNG-SGH-E250/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Browser/6.2.3.3.c.1.101 (GUI) MMP/2.0 (compatible; Googlebot-Mobile/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 19950376 /isos Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.56 Safari/535.11 64949057 /isos SAMSUNG-SGH-E250/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Browser/6.2.3.3.c.1.101 (GUI) MMP/2.0 (compatible; Googlebot-Mobile/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 77276990 REPO Wget 123817802 REPO PackageKit 173015040 /isos Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp) 184574925 /isos Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.27) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/3.6.27 189289071 REPO Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Ezooms/1.0; ezooms.bot at gmail.com) 215261516 REPO aria2/1.14.2 272698752 /isos Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0a2) Gecko/20120304 Firefox/12.0a2 277916052 /isos Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_3) AppleWebKit/534.53.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.3 Safari/534.53.10 278714862 /isos Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) 280486126 /isos Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2 Iceweasel/10.0.2 545259520 /isos Wget 650556670 REPO Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 1241702558 REPO Python-urllib 14725983912 REPO pacman All bytes: 19451591920, bot bytes: 1153843961 (5.93%). A trivial modification of the script sums /isos as 2115913496 (10.88%). Things not shown by the script: - lines with small data size?? it would be too much to show, and it's mostly useless since the script lists each wiki article on a separate line - the bot sum includes only honest bots which don't claim to be MSIE or other browsers Things not logged: - accesses not done between March?4 and 5; I assume these dates aren't untypical - other data than HTTP response data size My recommendations: - add a /robots.txt file blocking all bots from anything on repo.parabolagnulinux.org - remove ISO images unless there are users who cannot use torrents or other mirrors - block bots not respecting robots.txt by user agents if future logs will show them having big traffic here - promote using other mirrors Unlike other sites, repo.parabolagnulinux.org doesn't need to be indexed by search engines, so there should be no problem with blocking bots. [0] https://mtjm.eu/patches/log_counter.py -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue Mar 6 01:03:13 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:03:13 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [GNU-linux-libre] LibreWRT free distro? In-Reply-To: <201203060024.q260O6Vx025948@freefriends.org> References: <201203060024.q260O6Vx025948@freefriends.org> Message-ID: <87mx7ufsmm.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0800, karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) wrote: > Jason Self, Denver Gingerich, and others have been developing LibreWRT, > a free distro of a rather different sort -- building an image that gets > flashed onto a router or whatever. I think it may have been mentioned > on this list already. > > Jason and I were talking about it recently. I'll append the info from > him. > > It uses linux-libre and otherwise meets the usual criteria, as far as I > can see. There are a few stalenesses on the web site but I don't see > any stoppers. > > Comments, considerations, thoughts? > > karl +1 for me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gnu.tek at gmx.com Tue Mar 6 06:07:45 2012 From: gnu.tek at gmx.com (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?=) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 07:07:45 +0100 Subject: [Dev] [GNU-linux-libre] LibreWRT free distro? In-Reply-To: <87mx7ufsmm.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds"'s message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:03:13 -0300") References: <201203060024.q260O6Vx025948@freefriends.org> <87mx7ufsmm.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Message-ID: <87aa3up8i6.fsf@bob.home> Nicol?s Reynolds writes: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0800, karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) wrote: >> Jason Self, Denver Gingerich, and others have been developing LibreWRT, >> a free distro of a rather different sort -- building an image that gets >> flashed onto a router or whatever. I think it may have been mentioned >> on this list already. >> >> Jason and I were talking about it recently. I'll append the info from >> him. >> >> It uses linux-libre and otherwise meets the usual criteria, as far as I >> can see. There are a few stalenesses on the web site but I don't see >> any stoppers. >> >> Comments, considerations, thoughts? >> >> karl > > +1 for me +1 for me to -- Aurelien - Animateur P at m-Sarte http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Aurelien Free Software & Zen Minimalism Hactivist Fight for your freedom rights! Join FSF.org Fully Free Operating System at GNU.org ( ) ? ? ? From jorgean at lavabit.com Tue Mar 6 06:20:50 2012 From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 00:20:50 -0600 Subject: [Dev] [GNU-linux-libre] LibreWRT free distro? In-Reply-To: <87aa3up8i6.fsf@bob.home> References: <201203060024.q260O6Vx025948@freefriends.org> <87mx7ufsmm.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <87aa3up8i6.fsf@bob.home> Message-ID: <1331014850.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:24:06 -0800, karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) > wrote: > >> Jason Self, Denver Gingerich, and others have been developing > LibreWRT, > >> a free distro of a rather different sort -- building an image that > gets > >> flashed onto a router or whatever. I think it may have been > mentioned > >> on this list already. > >> > >> Jason and I were talking about it recently. I'll append the info > from > >> him. > >> > >> It uses linux-libre and otherwise meets the usual criteria, as far > as I > >> can see. There are a few stalenesses on the web site but I don't > see > >> any stoppers. > >> > >> Comments, considerations, thoughts? > >> > >> karl > > > > +1 for me > +1 for me to Does That bicho respect my freedom? Then, It receives the Sweet's approbation ;P -- Jorge Araya Navarro Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. http://swt.encyclomundi.net Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, ??despierta ahora!!: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html http://replicant.us/about/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll append the info from > > him. > > > > It uses linux-libre and otherwise meets the usual criteria, as far as I > > can see. There are a few stalenesses on the web site but I don't see > > any stoppers. > > > > Comments, considerations, thoughts? > > > > karl > > +1 for me > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Taibo -------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quiliro at congresolibre.org Tue Mar 6 17:44:46 2012 From: quiliro at congresolibre.org (=?UTF-8?B?UXVpbGlybyBPcmTDs8OxZXo=?=) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:44:46 -0500 Subject: [Dev] [Assist] How can I compile a module for my kernel without having to recompile the whole kernel? In-Reply-To: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4F564D0E.6000908@congresolibre.org> I am sorry to answer so late. I could not subscribe to the Assist list. Thank you Marc-Alexandre for your message and Jorge for forwarding it.These are my comments. It would be better to have just one list so that newbies learn from the experts and experts know about newbies problems. Then we will always have someone answer questions. If the traffic is high, only then it is useful to have separate lists. El 01/03/12 00:10, Jorge Araya Navarro escribi?: > >> Hi! >> >> I'm using a laptop that needs the vt8623fb module and I don't know how >> I can just compile the module alone since recompiling the whole kernel >> (even if it's tweaked) takes way too much time on my machine. >> I have not tried to compile a module separately from the kernel. All I have done is compiled drivers as modules or into the kernel. Nevertheless many drivers such as video loaded as modules are updated without updating the kernel. I would think that you can compile a module without compiling the whole kernel. >> I've lost 3days doing nothing but unsuccessful researches on the subject. >> Now I spent something like 8~9hours compiling the kernel using the ABS >> (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Compilation/Arch_Build_System) >> with the modules I needed and it just ended up creating a dummy empty >> package (while saying that everything was done successfully). >> Not to mention that patching the kernel from 3.2 to 3.2.7 just fails >> miserably for no reason (?!) so I had to tweak the PKGBUILD to grab >> the GNU/Linux Libre Kernel 3.2.7 directly. >> Directly from where? Please describe the process you did and the manuals you consulted as well as the error messages that you received. That will help suggest solutions. >> It's seriously driving me mad and I'm starting to wonder if I just >> doesn't have a IQ high enough to do all of theses things. >> Don't feel sorry for yourself. Just keep trying. >> If anyone knows how to help me, you have all my attention. For now >> I'll just prevent myself from smashing this computer on the floor. >> Also, before anyone start to answer my problem by not answering it: I >> don't want to use another distribution than Parabola. I have a problem >> and I want to fix it. >> That's the soul of a real hacker! >> Thank you all in advance for your answers, >> Marc-Alexandre Espiaut > I'm forwarding this message to the dev list because looks like nobody > wants to help me out with the list for assist people. It is not possible for me to subscribe to Assist because the confirmation string is not accepted. > I can't help you out with that, is very technical for my skills, but, > that module's source code is free as in freedom? sorry, we must ask > first... > If the sources used are linux-Libre there will be no problem about freedom. After writing all this email I can see the module is in the kernel now http://labs.parabola.nu/issues/14 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mtjm at mtjm.eu Tue Mar 6 18:02:55 2012 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:02:55 +0100 Subject: [Dev] [Assist] How can I compile a module for my kernel without having to recompile the whole kernel? In-Reply-To: <4F564D0E.6000908@congresolibre.org> ("Quiliro \=\?utf-8\?B\?T3Jk\?\= \=\?utf-8\?B\?w7PDsWV6Iidz\?\= message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:44:46 -0500") References: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4F564D0E.6000908@congresolibre.org> Message-ID: <87ipihr4j4.fsf@mtjm.eu> > I could not subscribe to the Assist > list. You can via email, only the Web interface doesn't accept this. > It would be better to have just one list so that newbies learn from > the experts and experts know about newbies problems. Then we will > always have someone answer questions. If the traffic is high, only > then it is useful to have separate lists. I haven't seen much learning from the experts on the lists, labs.parabola.nu and #parabola might be useful for that. With proper subscription interface having separate lists shouldn't be a problem, if all users know about relevant lists (lists other than dev and maintenance being mostly unused might be affected by this). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue Mar 6 18:25:41 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:25:41 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [GNU-linux-libre] LibreWRT free distro? In-Reply-To: References: <201203060024.q260O6Vx025948@freefriends.org> <4F5589A9.9050702@gnu.org> Message-ID: <87ipihbn8a.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:33:48 -0800, "Jason Self" wrote: > Ineiev asked: > > Is it self-hosting? > > I'm not sure that the self-hosting requirement makes sense in this case > because emedded devices typically do not have the resources to compile > their own software. It's usually done on a more capable system and then > copied to the device afterward. > > In the case of LibreWRT, everything can be built using only free software. > I start with Trisquel and a copy of the LibreWRT tarball. maybe we could package the building tools on parabola? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thus my mirror should cause about the same data > OUT as you have data IN on the repo server. > > My wiki page about my mirror script, including a link to the code repo: > https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/Creating_a_mirror please add a license to your script ;) -- }:= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thus my mirror should cause about the same data >> OUT as you have data IN on the repo server. >> >> My wiki page about my mirror script, including a link to the code repo: >> https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/Creating_a_mirror > please add a license to your script ;) Done, you can use it under the terms of the MIT (expat) license. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2039 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Sun Mar 11 11:50:45 2012 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:50:45 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue258] [kdenetwork-kopete] recommends skype In-Reply-To: <1321546980.96.0.682671424094.issue258@parabolagnulinux.org> Message-ID: <1331466645.74.0.695647498071.issue258@parabolagnulinux.org> Micha? Mas?owski added the comment: Packaged everywhere. ---------- status: testing -> resolved ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Sun Mar 11 11:52:49 2012 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:52:49 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue108] [kdebase-konqueror] has to be patched to not recommend flash Message-ID: <1331466769.55.0.453550160221.issue108@parabolagnulinux.org> Micha? Mas?owski added the comment: Packaged. ---------- status: testing -> resolved ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon Mar 12 23:49:46 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:49:46 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Dan McGee] Arch Linux turns 10 Message-ID: <87pqchxtut.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> An embedded message was scrubbed... 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I believe changes like the following ones could be better for this: - put the message in /etc/motd - have Parabola themes for login managers emphasizing this - editing the text above news on https://parabolagnulinux.org/ - having links to gnu.org in default browser bookmarks and in appropriate menus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From quiliro at congresolibre.org Thu Mar 15 21:27:37 2012 From: quiliro at congresolibre.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Quiliro_Ord=F3=F1ez?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:27:37 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Error Fwd: [Maintenance] db-check-nonfree log Message-ID: <4F625EC9.6020508@congresolibre.org> Why so many errors? -------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [Maintenance] db-check-nonfree log Fecha: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:07:30 -0300 De: Andr? Silva Responder a: For maintenance stuff Para: Parabola Maintenance db-check-nonfree-03152012 cd ~/blacklist; git pull origin master Fromhttps://projects.parabolagnulinux.org/blacklist * branch master -> FETCH_HEAD Updating fb97200..a4efdb9 Fast-forward blacklist.txt | 1 + blacklist/blacklist.txt | 424 ----------------------------------------------- 2 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 424 deletions(-) delete mode 100644 blacklist/blacklist.txt [repo at repo blacklist]$ db-check-nonfree ==> Check nonfree in repo: -> core i686 -> core x86_64 -> core mips64el -> testing i686 -> testing x86_64 -> testing mips64el -> extra i686 -> extra x86_64 -> extra mips64el -> community i686 -> Unfree: virtualbox ==> ERROR: Repository file '/srv/http/repo/public/community/os/i686/community.files.tar.gz' was not found. ==> ERROR repo-remove /srv/http/repo/public/community/os/i686/community.files.tar.gz virtualbox chgrp: cannot access `/srv/http/repo/public/community/os/i686/community.files.tar.gz': No such file or directory ==> ERROR Could not change group of /srv/http/repo/public/community/os/i686/community.files.tar.gz to users chmod: cannot access `/srv/http/repo/public/community/os/i686/community.files.tar.gz': No such file or directory ==> ERROR Could not set write permission for group users to /srv/http/repo/public/community/os/i686/community.files.tar.gz -> community x86_64 -> Unfree: virtualbox ==> ERROR: Repository file '/srv/http/repo/public/community/os/x86_64/community.files.tar.gz' was not found. ==> ERROR repo-remove /srv/http/repo/public/community/os/x86_64/community.files.tar.gz virtualbox chgrp: cannot access `/srv/http/repo/public/community/os/x86_64/community.files.tar.gz': No such file or directory ==> ERROR Could not change group of /srv/http/repo/public/community/os/x86_64/community.files.tar.gz to users chmod: cannot access `/srv/http/repo/public/community/os/x86_64/community.files.tar.gz': No such file or directory ==> ERROR Could not set write permission for group users to /srv/http/repo/public/community/os/x86_64/community.files.tar.gz -> community mips64el -> multilib i686 -> multilib x86_64 -> multilib mips64el -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:54:50 -0400 Size: 1656 URL: -------------- next part -------------- <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> -- }:= From jorgean at lavabit.com Tue Mar 20 03:14:28 2012 From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:14:28 -0600 Subject: [Dev] [Brett Smith] [GNU-linux-libre] Time to recheck Chromium? In-Reply-To: <87limwny1w.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> References: <87limwny1w.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Message-ID: <1332213268.13795.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> > > > Inspired by a recent bug report, I started taking another look > at > Chromium's current licensing situation, and it seems like > there's been a > lot of improvement. A lot of the problems I used to know > about are > gone. Using Debian's copyright file as a sort of guide, I > went looking > for files with bad licensing, and didn't have any luck -- a > lot of the > files that Debian classifies as "unknown" are autogenerated, > or have > good license headers that were just missed by whatever script > they're > using. The bug report that we link to in NONFSDG has seen a > lot of > progress since, including at least one update this year. > > Is anybody interested in taking a deeper look at Chromium's > current > status to see if there might be a way to include it now? I > remain loyal > to Mozilla-based browsers myself, but I know a lot of users > are > interested in Chromium, so it would be nice if that was an > option free > distros could provide. > > -- > Brett Smith > License Compliance Engineer, Free Software Foundation > > Support the FSF by becoming an Associate Member: > http://fsf.org/jf > > > fyi > what does "FYI" stand for? :O -- Jorge Araya Navarro Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. http://swt.encyclomundi.net Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, ??despierta ahora!!: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html http://replicant.us/about/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Using Debian's copyright file as a sort of guide, I > > went looking > > for files with bad licensing, and didn't have any luck -- a > > lot of the > > files that Debian classifies as "unknown" are autogenerated, > > or have > > good license headers that were just missed by whatever script > > they're > > using. The bug report that we link to in NONFSDG has seen a > > lot of > > progress since, including at least one update this year. > > > > Is anybody interested in taking a deeper look at Chromium's > > current > > status to see if there might be a way to include it now? I > > remain loyal > > to Mozilla-based browsers myself, but I know a lot of users > > are > > interested in Chromium, so it would be nice if that was an > > option free > > distros could provide. > > > > -- > > Brett Smith > > License Compliance Engineer, Free Software Foundation > > > > Support the FSF by becoming an Associate Member: > > http://fsf.org/jf > > > > > > fyi > > > > what does "FYI" stand for? :O > -- > > Jorge Araya Navarro > Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre. > Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica. > http://swt.encyclomundi.net > Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra > identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet > Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org > Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!. > el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs, > te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, > ??despierta ahora!!: > http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html > http://replicant.us/about/ Non-text part: text/html > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue Mar 20 03:59:15 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:59:15 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [Brett Smith] [GNU-linux-libre] Time to recheck Chromium? In-Reply-To: <1332213268.13795.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <87limwny1w.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <1332213268.13795.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87bonrorcc.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:14:28 -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: > > > > fyi > > > > what does "FYI" stand for? :O for your information -- :{ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are the same packages on libre repo into kdenetwork-libre group with kopete-libre, for me it is better to put on the blacklist also groups which include non-free packages, not just the programs, as they have advised or non-free packages in the group. I'm eliminating replicates packages becauseit is confusing to users when consulting packages in the package database or when executing pacman -Si, eg: virtualbox-modules had in Community and Libre, many users installed the package from Community and flagged it as obsolete as our package :( -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are the same packages on > libre repo into kdenetwork-libre group with kopete-libre, for me it is > better to put on the blacklist also groups which include non-free > packages, not just the programs, as they have advised or non-free > packages in the group. I'm eliminating replicates packages becauseit is > confusing to users when consulting packages in the package database or > when executing pacman -Si, eg: virtualbox-modules had in Community and > Libre, many users installed the package from Community and flagged it as > obsolete as our package :( oh, ok then ;) -- D: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Linux parabola.guifi.net 3.3.0-1-LIBRE #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 19 17:07:51 > UTC 2012 x86_64 QEMU Virtual CPU version 1.0 GenuineIntel GNU/Linux > The url of my VPS with Parabola GNU/Linux: http://205.185.121.80/about For a temporary access for tests (root access), send me an mail. Best regards, -- El 7 de noviembre de 2011 19:58, Nicol?s Reynolds escribi?: > El 31/10/11 06:49, Michael Taibo dijo: > > Hi, > > > > recently asked to Francisco Dias via Twitter[1] (owner of buyvm.net, a > > hosting provider), to add the core images of Parabola GNU/Linux for > install > > on the vps servers (KVM), after 24 hours,[2][3][4] the images are now > > available for install. > > > > BuyVM offers high quality hosting with Hurricane Electric connectivity ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Electric) at low cost, and by > > default, all servers come with 16 IPv6 addresses automatically bound. > > > > Best regards, > > > > [1] https://twitter.com/#!/doti2p/status/130482787739369472 > > [2] https://twitter.com/#!/FrantechCA/status/130517835779801088 > > [3] https://twitter.com/#!/FrantechCA/status/130578456768561153 > > [4] https://twitter.com/#!/FrantechCA/status/130763920024678402 > > This is great news!! Can you confirm by taking a screenshot? I can't find > it on > their website. > > > -- > Salud! > Nicol?s Reynolds, > xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar > omb:http://identi.ca/fauno > > OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 > > http://parabolagnulinux.org > http://endefensadelsl.org > > "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Taibo -------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I like the idea "Parabola GNU" but I think says more about us to use "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre" and that makes the difference "-libre" when people read This is my opinion! :) "Todos somos ignorantes, sucede que unos saben lo que nosotros ignoramos y ellos ignoran lo que nosotros sabemos" Clave publica pgp. uid: Mark J. R. P. keyID: E92667C4 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16894799E92667C4 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silva wrote: > > >>Recently on 19th of March, *Linux-Libre* has been formally accepted > >>as an official part of the *GNU Project*, and now is called as *"GNU > >>Linux-libre Project"*. > >>So i think that our distro should be "Parabola GNU" instead of > >>"Parabola GNU/Linux-libre", because our linux-libre is not a > >>separated project. > >> > >>Parabolers, i have a question: I would to know, what is your option > >>about this idea? > > I like the idea "Parabola GNU" but I think says more about us to use > "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre" and that makes the difference "-libre" when > people read > > This is my opinion! :) > > > > > "Todos somos ignorantes, sucede que unos saben lo que nosotros > ignoramos y ellos ignoran lo que nosotros sabemos" > > Clave publica pgp. > uid: Mark J. R. P. > keyID: E92667C4 > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16894799E92667C4 > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at parlementum.net Microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Or somethings which mean that it use only free software and a fully free Linux version. The advantage is like that people which wish for a Parabola comes and make their choice ... maybe later we will have a Hurd version ... so like that people, at the same place will be free to make their choice ... ok i am at Parabola ... so which one i guess for the Linux-libre one or the Hurd ... or the ... all in one with just Parabola. Now we have to think of the trouble to migrate all to another domaine name, we will loose all the links writed on other website. So if we make a complet migration of the website ... we have to get time to correct all link we can and inform webmaster of other website. Have fun & be free! Charles Roth writes: > and we have the domain parabola.nu ready to go ;) > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:33:47PM -0600, Mark J. R. P. wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:45:56 -0300 >> Andr? Silva wrote: >> >> >>Recently on 19th of March, *Linux-Libre* has been formally accepted >> >>as an official part of the *GNU Project*, and now is called as *"GNU >> >>Linux-libre Project"*. >> >>So i think that our distro should be "Parabola GNU" instead of >> >>"Parabola GNU/Linux-libre", because our linux-libre is not a >> >>separated project. >> >> >> >>Parabolers, i have a question: I would to know, what is your option >> >>about this idea? >> >> I like the idea "Parabola GNU" but I think says more about us to use >> "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre" and that makes the difference "-libre" when >> people read >> >> This is my opinion! :) >> >> >> >> >> "Todos somos ignorantes, sucede que unos saben lo que nosotros >> ignoramos y ellos ignoran lo que nosotros sabemos" >> >> Clave publica pgp. >> uid: Mark J. R. P. >> keyID: E92667C4 >> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x16894799E92667C4 > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org >> https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> -- Aurelien - Animateur P at m-Sarte http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Aurelien Free Software & Zen Minimalism Hactivist Fight for your freedom rights! Join FSF.org Fully Free Operating System at GNU.org From mtjm at mtjm.eu Wed Mar 28 08:44:40 2012 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:44:40 +0200 Subject: [Dev] Opinion about GNU operating system and GNU/Linux-libre operating system In-Reply-To: <4F726D54.9040202@adinet.com.uy> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Andr=C3=A9?= Silva"'s message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:45:56 -0300") References: <4F726D54.9040202@adinet.com.uy> Message-ID: <87limli07b.fsf@mtjm.eu> > So i think that our distro should be "Parabola GNU" instead of > "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre", because our linux-libre is not a separated > project. I believe we want to make it clear that we aren't a part of the GNU Project and that we use GNU Linux-libre and not Linux. I consider these important enough arguments to not change the name. Use "Parabola" when you don't need to emphasize that it's a GNU/Linux-libre distro. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(I don't see any significance of this graph, it's based on wrong assumptions and is a tertiary source.) > And the fact is that Parabola only mean that this distribution is the > fully free side of ArchLinux. How is this related to naming? > So Parabola only sounds good, now, in the boot and the website it should > be fine to say somewhere Parabola a GNU / Linux-libre distro. We already discussed having "Parabola" as the generic name for the project and "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre" for the operating system using Linux-libre as the kernel. See the thread starting with https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/pipermail/dev/2012-January/000313.html for details. > Now we have to think of the trouble to migrate all to another domaine > name, we will loose all the links writed on other website. So if we make > a complet migration of the website ... we have to get time to correct > all link we can and inform webmaster of other website. 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Mas?owski wrote: > [1.1 ] > > In fact http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Gldt.svg > > write us as Parabola > > They call other distros "Debian" and "Ubuntu" despite these not being > their full names. "Ubuntu" is the full name, though "Debian" isn't. (Shuttlesworth has actually pointed this out when people have tried the "I call it 'Linux' because the official name is 'Ubuntu Linux'" crap) > (I don't see any significance of this graph, it's > based on wrong assumptions and is a tertiary source.) The author is the creator/maintainer of gnuclad, and this is his "Look what gnuclad can do" project. He does put a *lot* of work into keeping it accurate, though he's not perfect. ~ Luke Shumaker From smv at ceata.org Thu Mar 29 14:36:26 2012 From: smv at ceata.org (=?UTF-8?B?U29yaW4tTWloYWkgVsOicmdvbGljaQ==?=) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:36:26 +0300 Subject: [Dev] Requesting write access to the repos Message-ID: <4F74736A.9040303@ceata.org> Hello. Some of you already know me, some don't. I've been a Parabola user for some time, took care of some things and built some packages in the past. I've also built some of the ISOs. At some point I had to stop because I didn't had enough time. In the mean time I wanted to start a special fork of Arch, using the Parabola tools, but those plans got stalled. I'm writing this because I would like to regain write access to the repos. It's true that I still don't have enough time to take care of more things, but from time to time I might be able to build some packages for both i686 and x86_64. I'll most likely push them to a personal repo, but if needed I might help with the official packages too. If you all agree with this, or if anyone has something against this, I'd like to know. -- <>< Sorin-Mihai V?rgolici Proud member of Ceata (http://ceata.org/) Arcada developer (https://arcadaproject.org/) From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Thu Mar 29 16:43:51 2012 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:43:51 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [GNU-linux-libre] Clementine music player In-Reply-To: <1511118.7KKbkOCUFh@crunch> References: <20120329213016.3814db42@epicfail.kgoetz.id.au> <87pqbvh3bl.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <1511118.7KKbkOCUFh@crunch> Message-ID: <87fwcrgxx4.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:43:19 -0300, Leo wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2012 11:47 Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:30:16 +1100, Karl Goetz wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > I noticed an email on fedora-legal about the Clementine music player, > > > and I was wondering if someone had any direct experience with it. > > > > > > The relevant part of the mail is: > > > > The application uses Spotify's trademarks and their copyrighted logo > > > > and suggests that the user pull in a proprietary application called > > > > "Spotify Core" to use the feature. This effectively makes the feature > > > > a stub that pulls in proprietary software. > > > > > > Is Clementine in your distro? could you check if this is a general > > > problem, or just specific to fedora/their release ? > > > thanks, > > > kk > > > > we confirmed this on parabola (i installed it myself) and we > > blacklisted it, but apparently forgot to drop it here, sorry :| > > This anti-feature can be turned off at compile time. > A few days ago (before this thread was started) I was surprised to see it > blacklisted in Parabola so I read a bit about it. > > The spotify stuff can be disabled at build time with these flags: - > DENABLE_SPOTIFY=OFF -DENABLE_SPOTIFY_BLOB=OFF > > I think that's what Parabola did (I saw there's a Clementine-libre in the > repos). > > A thing that wasn't mentioned is that Clementine has some extras (background > tracks to play along with whatever audio file we're playing at the moment). At > least one of these extras is licensed as CC Sampling+, which, as far as I > know, is nonfree. The extra I'm talking about is rainymood [0]. I don't know > if that can be disabled at compilation time. > > I actually think the rainymood idea is a cool one, so it's a bad thing about > the license. Also, Clementine is a really good music player, so it's a pity > that they do things like these that get it pulled out of distros. > > [0] http://www.rainymood.com/legal.php mmm no, but the source tarball should be cleaned up too. -- libertad! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I corrected the error by downgrading all packages. > > Are you having the same issue? > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at parlementum.net Microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: dev_public_key.txt URL: From nobody at parabolagnulinux.org Thu Mar 15 10:11:08 2012 From: nobody at parabolagnulinux.org (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:11:08 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [virtualbox-libre] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20120315101105.9641.84827@rshg054.dnsready.net> Yeking at Red54.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * virtualbox-libre 4.1.4-3 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/virtualbox-libre/ * virtualbox-libre 4.1.8-2 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/virtualbox-libre/ * virtualbox-parabola-additions 4.1.4-3 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/virtualbox-parabola-additions/ * virtualbox-parabola-additions 4.1.8-2 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/virtualbox-parabola-additions/ * virtualbox-sdk 4.1.4-3 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/virtualbox-sdk/ * virtualbox-sdk 4.1.8-2 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/virtualbox-sdk/ * virtualbox-source 4.1.4-3 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/virtualbox-source/ * virtualbox-source 4.1.8-2 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/virtualbox-source/ The user provided the following additional text: The latest version is 4.1.10. From nobody at parabolagnulinux.org Thu Mar 15 10:11:37 2012 From: nobody at parabolagnulinux.org (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:11:37 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [virtualbox-modules] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20120315101135.9641.14525@rshg054.dnsready.net> Yeking at Red54.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * virtualbox-modules 4.1.10-1 [community] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/i686/virtualbox-modules/ * virtualbox-modules 4.1.10-1 [community] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/virtualbox-modules/ * virtualbox-modules 4.1.8-3 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/virtualbox-modules/ * virtualbox-parabola-modules 4.1.8-3 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/virtualbox-parabola-modules/ The user provided the following additional text: The latest version is 4.1.10. From nobody at parabolagnulinux.org Thu Mar 15 10:11:53 2012 From: nobody at parabolagnulinux.org (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:11:53 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [virtualbox-parabola-modules] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20120315101152.9641.32337@rshg054.dnsready.net> Yeking at Red54.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * virtualbox 4.1.10-1 [community] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/i686/virtualbox/ * virtualbox 4.1.10-1 [community] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/virtualbox/ * virtualbox-parabola-modules 4.1.4-2 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/virtualbox-parabola-modules/ * virtualbox-sdk 4.1.10-1 [community] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/i686/virtualbox-sdk/ * virtualbox-sdk 4.1.10-1 [community] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/virtualbox-sdk/ * virtualbox-source 4.1.10-1 [community] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/i686/virtualbox-source/ * virtualbox-source 4.1.10-1 [community] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/virtualbox-source/ The user provided the following additional text: The latest version is 4.1.10. From nobody at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Mar 21 05:58:42 2012 From: nobody at parabolagnulinux.org (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:58:42 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [filesystem] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20120321055839.11385.80632@rshg054.dnsready.net> metaleks at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * filesystem 2011.12-2 [libre] (any): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/any/filesystem/ The user provided the following additional text: See: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/any/filesystem/ This also breaks *everyone* on Arch that tries to migrate to Parabola, making migrations near impossible. The only way to migrate with Parabola's current version of this package is to temporarily remove /var/run and /var/lock, which can be dangerous during an upgrade with pacman -Syyuu. From nobody at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Mar 21 06:34:13 2012 From: nobody at parabolagnulinux.org (Parabola Website Notification) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:34:13 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Orphan Libre package [grub] marked out-of-date Message-ID: <20120321063411.7211.80144@rshg054.dnsready.net> metaleks at gmail.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * grub 0.97-18 [connos] (i586): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/connos/i586/grub/ * grub 0.97-20 [libre] (i686): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/i686/grub/ * grub 0.97-20 [libre] (x86_64): https://parabolagnulinux.org/packages/libre/x86_64/grub/ The user provided the following additional text: Most recent is 0.97-21.