[Dev] [Gnewsense-dev] New project: gNewSenseToMips-3A
s.boutayeb at free.fr
Wed Dec 12 15:30:27 GMT 2012
Le dimanche 09 décembre 2012 à 15:44 +0000, Michael Dorrington a écrit :
> Does this project enjoy support from the FSF?
Yes, provided there is no non-free blobs (as it might be the case for
the firmware used for the video acceleration).
> Let's discuss and share on this free hardware/software project in the
> Is the Loongson 3A laptop (Yeeloong 8133?) free hardware?
> The last thing I read was interview with RMS where he said that he used
> a Yeeloong but specifically that it was *not* the new one  as it
> need non-free firmware for the video. These need answering for the 8133:
The radeon/amd graphic chipset requires a non-free firmware in order to
enable hardware acceleration. However, the data under "3aXorg" (in )
This said, very few people seem to have got their hand on this hardware
AND have reported about it (excepting a Gentoo user, see ). This may
change and result in more first hand reports. Then, one will be able to
execute some tests (as in ), in order to assess the components, the
available firmware and the possible workarounds.
Until then, on may consult the few available reports (as in  ).
This said, on the positive side, the manufacturer do provide extensive
help with documentation + sources + support. Of course, it's work in
progress, but it's a very appreciable factor as hacking the hardware or
installing a new distribution is concerned.
> 1. A list of all the non-free firmware inside the hardware.
This has to be confirmed on the real hardware (seeing is believing).
> 2. Is that non-free firmware inside the hardware currently replaceable
> with a free version?
> 3. What non-free firmware in software is required to run the hardware?
> (Such as, to display on the screen, use an external display or to use
> the wired Ethernet.)
> 4. What are the features of the hardware when run with maximum free
> software on it? (Such as, does the Ethernet only do 100 Mbps rather
> that 1 Gbps, can it still display to an external screen.)
> 5. Is the 8133 a step back in terms of software freedom compared to the
> 8101 and 8089?
Not sure about that. However, my intuition is that the hardware running
the 3A CPU is a transition announcing a next generation (with the 3B
CPU) and more freedom-complient components
> 6. Are Lemote going to work to getting any required patches into
> upstream? (For instance patches to Xorg? The Xorg patchesi for 8101 and
> 8089 are still not in upstream AFAIK and from what I can tell Lemote
> didn't try to get them upstream.)
See next generation
> People are free to work on what they want but, depending on the answers,
> from a software freedom point of view it might be better improving the
> software for 8101 and 8089.
The performances achieved with the 3A machine may benefit for the actual
porting projects targetting the 2F machines. See the GCC compile
buildfarm, which provides a remote access to 3A machines ().
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