From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 1 03:02:34 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <20111129175607.GS2011@ponape.bal> <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Thu, 1 Dec 2011 00:00:07 +0100, Johannes Krampf wrote: > Just a short note: If you set debug to True in local settings, media > URLs should work automatically. So is it nescessary to set DEBUG=True in order for /media to work? That sounds like a bug. How is DEBUG set on the main server? > My tests were done with sqlite3, I got the same errors with innodb as > Luke. I haven't tried with postgres or myisam. I could successfully > run the server, but I had no fixtures loaded for my limited tests. Now I've tried MySQL MyISAM with DEBUG=true, and discovered that I get the same stacktrace as I did with sqlite3, so that appears to be something else I fouled up in between (sqlite3 was the last thing I did yesterday). ~ Luke Shumaker From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Thu Dec 1 04:35:52 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <20111129175607.GS2011@ponape.bal> <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> El 30/11/11 10:02, Luke T.Shumaker dijo: > At Thu, 1 Dec 2011 00:00:07 +0100, > Johannes Krampf wrote: > > Just a short note: If you set debug to True in local settings, media > > URLs should work automatically. > > So is it nescessary to set DEBUG=True in order for /media to work? That > sounds like a bug. How is DEBUG set on the main server? > > > My tests were done with sqlite3, I got the same errors with innodb as > > Luke. I haven't tried with postgres or myisam. I could successfully > > run the server, but I had no fixtures loaded for my limited tests. > > Now I've tried MySQL MyISAM with DEBUG=true, and discovered that I get > the same stacktrace as I did with sqlite3, so that appears to be > something else I fouled up in between (sqlite3 was the last thing I > did yesterday). we are using debug=false and ## location for saving dev pictures MEDIA_ROOT = '/srv/http/web/media/' ## web url for serving image files MEDIA_URL = 'http://parabolagnulinux.org/media/' but we aren't using the virtualenv nor the pip packages. -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 1 04:50:34 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:50:34 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <20111129175607.GS2011@ponape.bal> <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> OK, I got the old version working great with MySQL MyISAM. I have two comments about it: * As far as I can tell, DEBUG needs to be true for /media to work. WTF? * Bug: `media/silhouette.png' should be at `media/devs/silhouette.png' I then upgraded it to the Johannes'/my new version. This version is NOT ready to be deployed. Everything works great, except viewing a single package, for which it 500s. This does appear to be a bug with our code. Info/Stack trace: http://dpaste.com/664189/ (before deps update) http://dpaste.com/664190/ (after deps update) (that's cool, it gave me a button to click to automagically post it to dpaste) Steps to be taken when upgrading: * git pull/checkout * remove .pyc files (cause weird bugs if they don't get purged) * $ ./manage.py migrate * $ for file in */fixtures/*.json; do ./manage.py loaddata $file; done * pip install -r requirements_prod.txt This is to update Django and other deps, but doesn't appear to be nescessary. What changed: * Django 1.3 => 1.3.1 * pyinotify (new) * pytz 2011c => 2011n I'll go ahead and move silhouette.png in my copy, and try to fix the package pages. My copy: https://gitorious.org/parabolaweb/parabolaweb ~ Luke Shumaker PS: In my test configuration, I have the environment in a separate directory (/srv/http/web-env, where the install is at /srv/http/web). I'm guessing from a few stray files in git that on the server you set up the environment in the same directory. Since I removed the stray files from git in my, they will be deleted when you pull. That would be bad. Migrating the environment to a separate directory before then would probably be a good idea. (To be clear, I'm not saying you should change because I deleted the files, I'm saying you should change because you should have the env separate) At Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:02:34 -0500, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > At Thu, 1 Dec 2011 00:00:07 +0100, > Johannes Krampf wrote: > > Just a short note: If you set debug to True in local settings, media > > URLs should work automatically. > > So is it nescessary to set DEBUG=True in order for /media to work? That > sounds like a bug. How is DEBUG set on the main server? > > > My tests were done with sqlite3, I got the same errors with innodb as > > Luke. I haven't tried with postgres or myisam. I could successfully > > run the server, but I had no fixtures loaded for my limited tests. > > Now I've tried MySQL MyISAM with DEBUG=true, and discovered that I get > the same stacktrace as I did with sqlite3, so that appears to be > something else I fouled up in between (sqlite3 was the last thing I > did yesterday). > > ~ Luke Shumaker From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 1 06:33:15 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111129175607.GS2011@ponape.bal> <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Thu, 1 Dec 2011 01:35:52 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > we are using debug=false and > > ## location for saving dev pictures > MEDIA_ROOT = '/srv/http/web/media/' > > ## web url for serving image files > MEDIA_URL = 'http://parabolagnulinux.org/media/' That's really weird then, I have no idea why I have to set debug=true for it to work for us. Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > but we aren't using the virtualenv nor the pip packages. That's great, because I was worried that me removing the outdated virtualenv files that were wrongfully put into git would cause a problem. At Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:50:34 -0500, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > OK, I got the old version working great with MySQL MyISAM. I have two > comments about it: > * As far as I can tell, DEBUG needs to be true for /media to > work. WTF? > * Bug: `media/silhouette.png' should be at > `media/devs/silhouette.png' > > I then upgraded it to the Johannes'/my new version. This version is > NOT ready to be deployed. Everything works great, except viewing a > single package, for which it 500s. This does appear to be a bug with > our code. > > I'll go ahead and move silhouette.png in my copy, and try to fix the > package pages. I think I've done this. As far as I can tell, my version is running great, with no problems that I can tell. > My copy: https://gitorious.org/parabolaweb/parabolaweb Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > Steps to be taken when upgrading: > * git pull/checkout > * remove .pyc files (cause weird bugs if they don't get purged) > * $ ./manage.py migrate > * $ for file in */fixtures/*.json; do ./manage.py loaddata $file; done > * pip install -r requirements_prod.txt > This is to update Django and other deps, but doesn't appear to be > nescessary. What changed: > * Django 1.3 => 1.3.1 > * pyinotify (new) > * pytz 2011c => 2011n I know you're not managing them with pip, but I'd check to make sure that pacman has those versions installed. Also make sure that the symlink at media/admin_media is right. ~ Luke Shumaker From johannes.krampf at googlemail.com Thu Dec 1 07:49:00 2011 From: johannes.krampf at googlemail.com (Johannes Krampf) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:49:00 +0100 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <20111129175607.GS2011@ponape.bal> <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > At Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:50:34 -0500, > Luke T.Shumaker wrote: >> OK, I got the old version working great with MySQL MyISAM. I have two >> comments about it: >> ?* As far as I can tell, DEBUG needs to be true for /media to >> ? ?work. WTF? You only have to set DEBUG to True if you use the integrated server (./manage.py runserver) for media to work correctly. On a real deployment you would use Django with wsgi and have your web server manage serving of static files. >> I then upgraded it to the Johannes'/my new version. This version is >> NOT ready to be deployed. Everything works great, except viewing a >> single package, for which it 500s. This does appear to be a bug with >> our code. The stacktraces look like bugs in the template markup which I have introduced when merging. I'll have a look at it this evening, thanks for your testing! From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 1 12:31:55 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 07:31:55 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <20111129175607.GS2011@ponape.bal> <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <871uso8ock.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:49:00 +0100, Johannes Krampf wrote: > > > At Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:50:34 -0500, > > Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > >> OK, I got the old version working great with MySQL MyISAM. I have two > >> comments about it: > >> ?* As far as I can tell, DEBUG needs to be true for /media to > >> ? ?work. WTF? > > You only have to set DEBUG to True if you use the integrated server > (./manage.py runserver) for media to work correctly. > > On a real deployment you would use Django with wsgi and have your web > server manage serving of static files. > > >> I then upgraded it to the Johannes'/my new version. This version is > >> NOT ready to be deployed. Everything works great, except viewing a > >> single package, for which it 500s. This does appear to be a bug with > >> our code. > > The stacktraces look like bugs in the template markup which I have > introduced when merging. I'll have a look at it this evening, thanks > for your testing! I've already fixed it. My copy: https://gitorious.org/parabolaweb/parabolaweb ~ Luke Shumaker From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Thu Dec 1 13:13:41 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:13:41 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> El 01/12/11 08:49, Johannes Krampf dijo: > > At Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:50:34 -0500, > > Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > >> OK, I got the old version working great with MySQL MyISAM. I have two > >> comments about it: > >> ?* As far as I can tell, DEBUG needs to be true for /media to > >> ? ?work. WTF? > > You only have to set DEBUG to True if you use the integrated server > (./manage.py runserver) for media to work correctly. > > On a real deployment you would use Django with wsgi and have your web > server manage serving of static files. > > >> I then upgraded it to the Johannes'/my new version. This version is > >> NOT ready to be deployed. Everything works great, except viewing a > >> single package, for which it 500s. This does appear to be a bug with > >> our code. > > The stacktraces look like bugs in the template markup which I have > introduced when merging. I'll have a look at it this evening, thanks > for your testing! I'll summary changes we have done so far to rebrand the site: * Change "arch ?linux" strings to "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre" (this is done in templates, site name should be used) * Change "devs" for "hackers" (we like it more :P) * Remove AUR mentions * Download page redirects to wiki (easier to update) * Add "flag as unfree" and "report bug" links to our bug tracker Please check there's no downgrade in this areas Thanks for your work! -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(grep isn't helpfull, it's still used in css/classnames, and can refer to architecture) "Parabola" is hardcoded in many places, should we change it to use a tag? > * Change "devs" for "hackers" (we like it more :P) Definately has changed. > * Remove AUR mentions `grep -i 'aur' .` returns nothing > * Download page redirects to wiki (easier to update) Definately. > * Add "flag as unfree" and "report bug" links to our bug tracker They're there. > Please check there's no downgrade in this areas > > Thanks for your work! ~ Luke Shumaker From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Fri Dec 2 04:22:40 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 01:22:40 -0300 Subject: [Dev] linux-libre-3.1.4-1 Message-ID: <20111202042240.GJ2011@ponape.bal> x86_64 packager ? -- Salud! 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(See https://www.johkra.net/gitweb/?p=parabolaweb-johkra.git;a=summary ) Luke: Why is the symlink for admin_media needed? Remaining issues I know of: * Download links for packages do not work. (404) * migrate doesn't work with sqlite unless you change one migration. (Remove the drop index statement for the index referenced in the error message.) * InnoDB doesn't work (see earlier messages) * groups.json fails to load Did I miss anything? I'll have a look at the first one, what should we do about the others? Should we fix them before updating the main page? - Johannes From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Fri Dec 2 18:29:44 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:29:44 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> El 02/12/11 07:26, Johannes Krampf dijo: > Hello everyone, > > I fixed bug tracker URLs (introduced in my merge) and some spelling in > the README Luke updated so kindly for parabolaweb. (See > https://www.johkra.net/gitweb/?p=parabolaweb-johkra.git;a=summary ) > > Luke: Why is the symlink for admin_media needed? > > Remaining issues I know of: > * Download links for packages do not work. (404) > * migrate doesn't work with sqlite unless you change one migration. > (Remove the drop index statement for the index referenced in the error > message.) > * InnoDB doesn't work (see earlier messages) > * groups.json fails to load > > Did I miss anything? I'll have a look at the first one, what should we > do about the others? Should we fix them before updating the main page? if they don't hit postgresql i'd said you don't spend time on it :P the download links should point to https://repo.parabolagnulinux.org/$repo/os/$arch/$pkgfile -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johannes.krampf at googlemail.com Fri Dec 2 18:49:23 2011 From: johannes.krampf at googlemail.com (Johannes Krampf) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:49:23 +0100 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> References: <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: 2011/12/2 Nicol?s Reynolds : > El 02/12/11 07:26, Johannes Krampf dijo: >> [...] >> Luke: Why is the symlink for admin_media needed? OK, the link is to correct a symlink. > if they don't hit postgresql i'd said you don't spend time on it :P Indeed, I have not yet looked at postgres. > the download links should point to > https://repo.parabolagnulinux.org/$repo/os/$arch/$pkgfile Done, even though it is a hack. From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 2 21:28:14 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:28:14 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <87obvuwcw1.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111130140435.GD2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1lw7w5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87k46e7jf5.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:26:28 +0100, Johannes Krampf wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I fixed bug tracker URLs (introduced in my merge) and some spelling in > the README Luke updated so kindly for parabolaweb. (See > https://www.johkra.net/gitweb/?p=parabolaweb-johkra.git;a=summary ) > > Luke: Why is the symlink for admin_media needed? The symlink is already there, but it may not point to the right place. Just confirm that the setup hasn't changed, and the target is still in the same place on the server. > Remaining issues I know of: > * Download links for packages do not work. (404) > * migrate doesn't work with sqlite unless you change one migration. > (Remove the drop index statement for the index referenced in the error > message.) > * InnoDB doesn't work (see earlier messages) This is an upstream problem with Archweb. The solution is to upgrade parabolaweb to Django 1.4 (from 1.3.1) > * groups.json fails to load This is an upstream problem with Archweb, but I don't know what causes it. > Did I miss anything? I'll have a look at the first one, what should we > do about the others? Should we fix them before updating the main page? > > - Johannes From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 2 21:50:24 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:50:24 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <87hb1i7ie7.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:49:23 +0100, Johannes Krampf wrote: > > 2011/12/2 Nicol?s Reynolds : > > El 02/12/11 07:26, Johannes Krampf dijo: > >> [...] > >> Luke: Why is the symlink for admin_media needed? > > OK, the link is to correct a symlink. > > > if they don't hit postgresql i'd said you don't spend time on it :P > > Indeed, I have not yet looked at postgres. > > > the download links should point to > > https://repo.parabolagnulinux.org/$repo/os/$arch/$pkgfile > Done, even though it is a hack. I've merged your code (I'd also fixed a few things since you pulled mine). Both of our code is now in the parabola.org repo. Also, when possible I've used '//parabolagnulinux.org' (or whatever domain) for the *.parabolagnulinux.org addresses, instead of giving `http:' or `https:'. Why hardcode something when you can just let the browser do the right thing? ~ Luke Shumaker From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Fri Dec 2 22:22:55 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:22:55 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <20111202222255.GU2011@ponape.bal> El 02/12/11 07:49, Johannes Krampf dijo: > 2011/12/2 Nicol?s Reynolds : > > El 02/12/11 07:26, Johannes Krampf dijo: > >> [...] > >> Luke: Why is the symlink for admin_media needed? > > OK, the link is to correct a symlink. > > > if they don't hit postgresql i'd said you don't spend time on it :P > > Indeed, I have not yet looked at postgres. > > > the download links should point to > > https://repo.parabolagnulinux.org/$repo/os/$arch/$pkgfile > Done, even though it is a hack. send me a ssh pubkey (gpg signed is better :) so you can have push access to the repo -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(For now in my repo.) From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 3 19:22:39 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:22:39 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <87ehwpw7ni.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87hb1l8051.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87bors99ph.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87hb1i7ie7.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <878vmtbgu8.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:09:29 +0100, Johannes Krampf wrote: > Are we using postgres on the server? If not, we should. Everything > works just fine with postgres. AFAIK, yes, the server uses postres. > Anyway, I introduced some small changes to the fixtures to workaround > the groups problem and add the mips64el architecture. Furthermore, I > merged the latest archweb changes. (For now in my repo.) I just pushed it to the parabolaweb repo. Also, attatched is my .git/config, it makes pushing/pulling easier. ~ Luke Shumaker -------------- next part -------------- [core] repositoryformatversion = 0 filemode = true bare = false logallrefupdates = true [remote "parabolaweb"] fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* url = ssh://git at parabolagnulinux.org:1863/parabolaweb.git [remote "johkra"] fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* url = https://johkra.net/git/parabolaweb-johkra.git [remote "archweb"] fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* url = https://projects.archlinux.org/git/archweb.git [branch "master"] remote = parabolaweb merge = refs/heads/master From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Sun Dec 4 14:46:03 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (Johannes Krampf (Parabola Issue Tracker)) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:46:03 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue210] Django hackers are needed In-Reply-To: <1317234535.21.0.828560096715.issue210@parabolagnulinux.org> Message-ID: <1323009963.59.0.743604458049.issue210@parabolagnulinux.org> Johannes Krampf added the comment: I volunteer to continue the work I have already begun. ---------- status: unread -> chatting ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Sun Dec 4 18:46:35 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (Luke Shumaker (Parabola Issue Tracker)) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:46:35 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue210] Django hackers are needed In-Reply-To: <1317234535.21.0.828560096715.issue210@parabolagnulinux.org> Message-ID: <1323024395.84.0.556249798609.issue210@parabolagnulinux.org> Luke Shumaker added the comment: I also volunteer to continue. Has johkra been given commit access yet? ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Mon Dec 5 00:32:04 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:32:04 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue96] [parabolaweb] i18n Message-ID: <1323045124.51.0.679467708166.issue96@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: Spanish is more than ok for starters, many parabola hackers are Spanish speakers... and I think not many of the rest of us are native English speakers, so they can tell you if they want to translate to their own languages too. If you decide to work on this, please do so on a separated branch in a way that we can submit patches to archweb later :D ---------- nosy: +dev_list -fauno ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon Dec 5 01:56:52 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 22:56:52 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: <20111201043552.GP2011@ponape.bal> <877h2g94yc.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111201131341.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <87wraf7mtd.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111202182944.GQ2011@ponape.bal> <20111202222255.GU2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <20111205015652.GG2011@ponape.bal> El 03/12/11 11:49, Johannes Krampf dijo: > 2011/12/2 Nicol?s Reynolds : > > send me a ssh pubkey (gpg signed is better :) so you can have push access to the repo > > OK, I hope I did everything correctly: > > GPG-key: https://www.johkra.net/johannes.krampf.gpg_pub > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > > iF4EABEIAAYFAk7Z/WcACgkQX9mcc7q4PtHtpwD9H4g6dG0FtGb99hBJ9PCuxgMP > 8tLimiBdpBNTDVCdVVQBAMmhrB/wTumUDJj8hkgOTV/M1gxtIzky4UG7ECcxqnI1 > =+une > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- you have push permission now :D -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon Dec 5 02:13:49 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:13:49 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20111205021349.GH2011@ponape.bal> El 29/11/11 05:17, Johannes Krampf dijo: > Hello everyone, > > these days I finally managed to merge changes from archweb to > parabolaweb and I published the results at > https://www.johkra.net/gitweb/ . > > I would like to help bringing this work forward and hopefully result > in resolving issue 210 [1]. How could I provide further help? I've updated parabolaweb on the server! Also I pulled changes on my local copy and while merging I found a missing "Arch" string. You can pull from git://kiwwwi.com.ar/parabolaweb I had to fix the admin_media symlink to the one in the django package. I also submitted a bug report about css, you should have received email. Thanks you both! -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Mon Dec 5 02:24:02 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:24:02 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue210] Django hackers are needed In-Reply-To: <1317234535.21.0.828560096715.issue210@parabolagnulinux.org> Message-ID: <1323051842.4.0.907642920697.issue210@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: Yes you both have commit access now! :D ---------- status: chatting -> in-progress ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 5 04:04:05 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:04:05 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Update of web site code (parabolaweb) In-Reply-To: <20111205021349.GH2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111205021349.GH2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <878vmr1x6y.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:13:49 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > El 29/11/11 05:17, Johannes Krampf dijo: > > Hello everyone, > > > > these days I finally managed to merge changes from archweb to > > parabolaweb and I published the results at > > https://www.johkra.net/gitweb/ . > > > > I would like to help bringing this work forward and hopefully result > > in resolving issue 210 [1]. How could I provide further help? > > I've updated parabolaweb on the server! Also I pulled changes on my local copy > and while merging I found a missing "Arch" string. You can pull from > git://kiwwwi.com.ar/parabolaweb You have to pull from 'git://kiwwwi.com.ar/parabolaweb/' or it won't work. The trailing slash is important :P > I had to fix the admin_media symlink to the one in the django > package. I've just updated the parabolaweb.install to take care of the symlink. I've also changed the symlink in git. > I also > submitted a bug report about css, you should have received email. I've just fixes to the CSS, and a few other fixes to git. > Thanks you both! > > -- > Salud! > Nicol?s Reynolds, > xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar > omb:http://identi.ca/fauno > > OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 > > http://parabolagnulinux.org > http://endefensadelsl.org > > "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Mon Dec 5 19:40:12 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:40:12 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Package signing policy Message-ID: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> Hi, I've asked angvp from Arch about the package signing policy that Arch will have. Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload packages * This policy will be coded in dbscripts * Pacman does other stuff * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is the moment to define our own package signing policy. IMO they should be simple and democratic :D -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 5 22:50:45 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:50:45 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Package signing policy In-Reply-To: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <871usi1vlm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:40:12 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > Hi, I've asked angvp from Arch about the package signing policy that Arch will > have. Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > packages > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > * Pacman does other stuff > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers > > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D Agreed, Arch's policy sounds no fun. But also, I should note that parabolaweb has already inherited Arch's master key management app. https://parabolagnulinux.org/master-keys/ ... and it looks like you've already noticed it. ~ Luke Shumaker From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 5 23:25:29 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:25:29 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Package signing policy In-Reply-To: <871usi1vlm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> <871usi1vlm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87y5uqzjme.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:50:45 -0500, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > At Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:40:12 -0300, > Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > Hi, I've asked angvp from Arch about the package signing policy that Arch will > > have. Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > > packages > > > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > > > * Pacman does other stuff > > > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers > > > > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D > > Agreed, Arch's policy sounds no fun. Actually, on further reflection, this sounds mostly reasonable. We have a few "core" hackers whose keys are in the system. Others can be added fairly organically by having other hackers sign their key. In my mind, this gives us 2 parameters to tune (our settings would likely be more liberal than Arch's): * How many "generations" away from the "master" keys can sign packages? The Arch policy says 1, I'd propose 2 or 3. Think of it like an Erdos Number. (I propose the the term "Fauno Number") * How does one have their key become a master key? I have 2 ideas on this: 1. You get to have a master key when you are in /hackers. I mean, at that point everyone knows you're involved with Parabola. 2. You get promoted to a master key when you have signed X many packages. Relatedly, since this would affect dbscripts; Why are our dbscripts not maintained as a fork of Arch's dbscripts so that we can "easily" pull? The git repos share no history. ~ Luke Shumaker From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue Dec 6 00:51:53 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:51:53 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Package signing policy In-Reply-To: <87y5uqzjme.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> <871usi1vlm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87y5uqzjme.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111206005153.GY2011@ponape.bal> El 05/12/11 06:25, Luke T.Shumaker dijo: > At Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:50:45 -0500, > Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > > At Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:40:12 -0300, > > Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > > Hi, I've asked angvp from Arch about the package signing policy that Arch will > > > have. Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > > > > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > > > > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > > > packages > > > > > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > > > > > * Pacman does other stuff > > > > > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers > > > > > > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > > > > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > > > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > > > > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D > > > > Agreed, Arch's policy sounds no fun. > > Actually, on further reflection, this sounds mostly reasonable. We > have a few "core" hackers whose keys are in the system. Others can be > added fairly organically by having other hackers sign their key. btw i was just testing the master key thingy, yesterday. now i know what it's for. > In my mind, this gives us 2 parameters to tune (our settings would > likely be more liberal than Arch's): > * How many "generations" away from the "master" keys can sign > packages? The Arch policy says 1, I'd propose 2 or 3. Think of it > like an Erdos Number. (I propose the the term "Fauno Number") haha... > * How does one have their key become a master key? I have 2 ideas on > this: > 1. You get to have a master key when you are in /hackers. I mean, > at that point everyone knows you're involved with Parabola. > 2. You get promoted to a master key when you have signed X many > packages. In any case "master key" is an unfortunate name, we should consider to change it too. I don't see a point in making a hierarchical WOT since it's not the OpenPGP model but the x509/CA one. This remembers me a few weeks ago I thought of a system to represent direct democracy (assembly mandate, delegation, revocability, etc.) over WOT relationships, for instance: Task X must be done so assembly mandates you as a delegate for it ("represent the assembly at some Y event"), so everybody signs your gpg key with it's notation (I was suggested by dkg that it should be made on gpg notations but I didn't understand the spec). This represents the trust/mandate the assembly put in you on your keyring. If anyone wants to check your status as delegate they can check your published key. In this sense, my opinion is that a packager can release packages if other packagers signed their key. This can be done via the regular ways (meet in place Z and exchange IDs) but since we're all over the globe we can implement some sort of Socialist Millonaire Protocol a la OTR, or just sign the notation for "Parabola Packager" if someone wants to explain me how do they work. For the initial keyring we just have to sign each other keys and that's it. No central trusting authority! > Relatedly, since this would affect dbscripts; Why are our dbscripts > not maintained as a fork of Arch's dbscripts so that we can "easily" > pull? The git repos share no history. They shared one many commits ago. Another idea: since package releasing is done via ssh, we can finally consider using monkeysphere[0]! :P [0]: http://web.monkeysphere.info -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've renamed this issue, since many packages not included in base need rebuild (e.g. most of KDE and Gnome), and all other problems discussed here are solved or not being done currently (like porting the installer). ---------- priority: feature -> bug title: [mips port] update base tarball -> [mips64el] rebuild packages using lib32 ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue Dec 6 20:29:51 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:29:51 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Asking for support for a Parabola GNU/Linux-libre mipsel port In-Reply-To: References: <20111028043358.GO2011@ponape.bal> <20111028131518.GP2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <20111206202950.GT2011@ponape.bal> El 21/11/11 09:25, Daniel Clark dijo: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Freedom Included > wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > > >> El 28/10/11 01:08, Freedom Included dijo: > >> > > >> > Sounds pretty good. Is > >> http://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/MIPS_Installation up > >> > to date / working? If so I'll try an install sometime :-) > >> > >> Yes, though the base tarball needs update. We can solve this today anyway > >> :D > > > > > > Sweet! Tell me when the new base tarball is up so I can try an install. > > > > Any news on the new base tarball becoming available? We have fixed the issues detailed by Michal, you can use the instructions from the wiki to try it! -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Wed Dec 7 20:39:22 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:39:22 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Maintenance list upFwd: [Maintenance] Cron /srv/http/repo/dbscripts/any-to-ours Message-ID: <20111207203922.GK2011@ponape.bal> xylon created a maintenance list where daemons post their statuses, if you have 5m a day please subscribe and review the logs :D PS: this process takes 'any' packages from Arch/x86_64 and puts them on Parabola/mips64el ----- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon ----- > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:17:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Cron Daemon > To: maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > Subject: [Maintenance] Cron /srv/http/repo/dbscripts/any-to-ours > > ==> Processing core... >  -> Syncing mips64el... >  -> Already synced (or error happened) > ==> Processing testing... >  -> Syncing mips64el... >  -> Already synced (or error happened) > ==> Processing extra... >  -> Syncing mips64el... >  -> Already synced (or error happened) > ==> Processing community... >  -> Syncing mips64el... >  -> Synced 2 packages >  -> Adding to db... > ==> Extracting database to a temporary location... > ==> Adding package 'python-dateutil-2.0-3-any.pkg.tar.xz' > ==> Removing license > -> Creating 'desc' db entry... > -> Computing md5 checksums... > -> Creating 'depends' db entry... > ==> Extracting license > license = custom:PYTHON > ==> Adding package 'python2-dateutil-1.5-2-any.pkg.tar.xz' > -> Removing existing entry 'python2-dateutil-1.5-1'... > ==> Removing license > -> Creating 'desc' db entry... > -> Computing md5 checksums... > -> Creating 'depends' db entry... > ==> Extracting license > license = custom:PYTHON > ==> Creating updated database file 'community.db.tar.gz' > ==> Processing multilib... >  -> No 'any' packages here > _______________________________________________ > Maintenance mailing list > Maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/maintenance > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From quiliro at congresolibre.org Thu Dec 8 12:56:35 2011 From: quiliro at congresolibre.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Quiliro_Ord=F3=F1ez?=) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:56:35 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Maintenance list upFwd: [Maintenance] Cron /srv/http/repo/dbscripts/any-to-ours In-Reply-To: <20111207203922.GK2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111207203922.GK2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <4EE0B403.3090800@congresolibre.org> On 07/12/11 15:39, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > xylon created a maintenance list where daemons post their statuses, if you have > 5m a day please subscribe and review the logs :D > > > PS: this process takes 'any' packages from Arch/x86_64 and puts them on > Parabola/mips64el > > ----- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon ----- > >> http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/maintenance >> > Once the confirmation string is received on email and the link is clicked on, it is not validated. Replying the confirmation email with nothing but the subject works. From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Sun Dec 11 04:23:06 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:23:06 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Fwd: [Maintenance] Cron /srv/http/repo/dbscripts/db-sync Message-ID: <20111211042306.GE2011@ponape.bal> There was an error on the repo syncing today, but I just noticed now ;) ----- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon ----- > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:13:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Cron Daemon > To: maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > Subject: [Maintenance] Cron /srv/http/repo/dbscripts/db-sync > > ==> 400 packages in blacklist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > community-staging/ > community-staging/os/ > community-staging/os/i686/ > community-staging/os/i686/community-staging.db -> community-staging.db.tar.gz > community-staging/os/i686/community-staging.db.tar.gz > community-staging/os/x86_64/ > community-staging/os/x86_64/community-staging.db -> community-staging.db.tar.gz > community-staging/os/x86_64/community-staging.db.tar.gz > community-testing/ > community-testing/os/ > community-testing/os/i686/ > community-testing/os/i686/community-testing.db -> community-testing.db.tar.gz > community-testing/os/i686/community-testing.db.tar.gz > community-testing/os/x86_64/ > community-testing/os/x86_64/community-testing.db -> community-testing.db.tar.gz > community-testing/os/x86_64/community-testing.db.tar.gz > community/ > community/os/ > community/os/i686/ > community/os/i686/community.db -> community.db.tar.gz > community/os/i686/community.db.tar.gz > community/os/x86_64/ > community/os/x86_64/community.db -> community.db.tar.gz > community/os/x86_64/community.db.tar.gz > core/ > core/os/ > core/os/i686/ > core/os/i686/core.db -> core.db.tar.gz > core/os/i686/core.db.tar.gz > core/os/x86_64/ > core/os/x86_64/core.db -> core.db.tar.gz > core/os/x86_64/core.db.tar.gz > extra/ > extra/os/ > extra/os/i686/ > extra/os/i686/extra.db -> extra.db.tar.gz > extra/os/i686/extra.db.tar.gz > extra/os/x86_64/ > extra/os/x86_64/extra.db -> extra.db.tar.gz > extra/os/x86_64/extra.db.tar.gz > gnome-unstable/ > gnome-unstable/os/ > gnome-unstable/os/i686/ > gnome-unstable/os/i686/gnome-unstable.db -> gnome-unstable.db.tar.gz > gnome-unstable/os/i686/gnome-unstable.db.tar.gz > gnome-unstable/os/x86_64/ > gnome-unstable/os/x86_64/gnome-unstable.db -> gnome-unstable.db.tar.gz > gnome-unstable/os/x86_64/gnome-unstable.db.tar.gz > kde-unstable/ > kde-unstable/os/ > kde-unstable/os/i686/ > kde-unstable/os/i686/kde-unstable.db -> kde-unstable.db.tar.gz > kde-unstable/os/i686/kde-unstable.db.tar.gz > kde-unstable/os/x86_64/ > kde-unstable/os/x86_64/kde-unstable.db -> kde-unstable.db.tar.gz > kde-unstable/os/x86_64/kde-unstable.db.tar.gz > multilib-testing/ > multilib-testing/os/ > multilib-testing/os/x86_64/ > multilib-testing/os/x86_64/multilib-testing.db -> multilib-testing.db.tar.gz > multilib-testing/os/x86_64/multilib-testing.db.tar.gz > multilib/ > multilib/os/ > multilib/os/x86_64/ > multilib/os/x86_64/multilib.db -> multilib.db.tar.gz > multilib/os/x86_64/multilib.db.tar.gz > staging/ > staging/os/ > staging/os/i686/ > staging/os/i686/staging.db -> staging.db.tar.gz > staging/os/i686/staging.db.tar.gz > staging/os/x86_64/ > staging/os/x86_64/staging.db -> staging.db.tar.gz > staging/os/x86_64/staging.db.tar.gz > testing/ > testing/os/ > testing/os/i686/ > testing/os/i686/testing.db -> testing.db.tar.gz > testing/os/i686/testing.db.tar.gz > testing/os/x86_64/ > testing/os/x86_64/testing.db -> testing.db.tar.gz > testing/os/x86_64/testing.db.tar.gz > > sent 642 bytes received 4954516 bytes 220229.24 bytes/sec > total size is 4946049 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing core-i686 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 19 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 165 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > deleting core.db.tar.gz.old > deleting core.db.tar.gz > deleting core.db > > sent 3934 bytes received 33714 bytes 8366.22 bytes/sec > total size is 18628 speedup is 0.49 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > core.db -> core.db.tar.gz > core.db.tar.gz > core.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 198150 bytes received 56 bytes 396412.00 bytes/sec > total size is 197968 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing core-x86_64 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 19 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 165 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > deleting core.db.tar.gz.old > deleting core.db.tar.gz > deleting core.db > > sent 3934 bytes received 34903 bytes 11096.29 bytes/sec > total size is 19256 speedup is 0.50 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > core.db -> core.db.tar.gz > core.db.tar.gz > core.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 198066 bytes received 56 bytes 396244.00 bytes/sec > total size is 197884 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing testing-i686 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 5 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 21 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > syslinux-4.05-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/packages/syslinux-4.05-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > syslinux-4.05-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/packages/syslinux-4.05-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting testing.db.tar.gz.old > deleting testing.db.tar.gz > deleting testing.db > deleting libdrm-2.4.28-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting libdrm-2.4.28-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > > sent 768 bytes received 5476 bytes 1784.00 bytes/sec > total size is 2764 speedup is 0.44 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > testing.db -> testing.db.tar.gz > testing.db.tar.gz > testing.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 36250 bytes received 56 bytes 72612.00 bytes/sec > total size is 36085 speedup is 0.99 > ==> Processing testing-x86_64 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 5 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 21 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > syslinux-4.05-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/packages/syslinux-4.05-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > syslinux-4.05-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/packages/syslinux-4.05-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting testing.db.tar.gz.old > deleting testing.db.tar.gz > deleting testing.db > deleting libdrm-2.4.28-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting libdrm-2.4.28-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > > sent 768 bytes received 5503 bytes 2508.40 bytes/sec > total size is 2784 speedup is 0.44 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > testing.db -> testing.db.tar.gz > testing.db.tar.gz > testing.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 36260 bytes received 56 bytes 72632.00 bytes/sec > total size is 36095 speedup is 0.99 > ==> Processing extra-i686 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 162 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 2628 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > gcin-2.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/packages/gcin-2.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > gcin-2.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/packages/gcin-2.5.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > libdrm-2.4.28-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/packages/libdrm-2.4.28-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > libdrm-2.4.28-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/packages/libdrm-2.4.28-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting libdrm-2.4.27-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting libdrm-2.4.27-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > deleting gcin-2.1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting gcin-2.1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > deleting extra.db.tar.gz.old > deleting extra.db.tar.gz > deleting extra.db > > sent 75125 bytes received 481697 bytes 74242.93 bytes/sec > total size is 36970096 speedup is 66.39 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > extra.db -> extra.db.tar.gz > extra.db.tar.gz > extra.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 2283257 bytes received 56 bytes 4566626.00 bytes/sec > total size is 2282822 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing extra-x86_64 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 161 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 2625 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > gcin-2.5.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/packages/gcin-2.5.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > gcin-2.5.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/packages/gcin-2.5.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > libdrm-2.4.28-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/packages/libdrm-2.4.28-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > libdrm-2.4.28-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/packages/libdrm-2.4.28-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting libdrm-2.4.27-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting libdrm-2.4.27-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > deleting gcin-2.1.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting gcin-2.1.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > deleting extra.db.tar.gz.old > deleting extra.db.tar.gz > deleting extra.db > > sent 75049 bytes received 494642 bytes 59967.47 bytes/sec > total size is 29436407 speedup is 51.67 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > extra.db -> extra.db.tar.gz > extra.db.tar.gz > extra.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 2282268 bytes received 56 bytes 4564648.00 bytes/sec > total size is 2281833 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing community-i686 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 90 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 2298 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > nsd-3.2.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/nsd-3.2.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > nsd-3.2.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/nsd-3.2.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-i686.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-i686.pkg.tar.xz > python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz > rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting vimpager-1.6.2-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting vimpager-1.6.2-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting rubyripper-0.6.1-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting rubyripper-0.6.1-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting ruby-locale-2.0.5-4-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting ruby-gettext-2.1.0-4-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting python-pymongo-1.9b1-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting python-pymongo-1.9b1-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz > deleting nsd-3.2.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > deleting nautilus-actions-3.1.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > deleting gnome-commander-1.2.8.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > deleting community.db.tar.gz.old > deleting community.db.tar.gz > deleting community.db > deleting cgmail-0.6.2-4-any.pkg.tar.xz > > sent 61237 bytes received 332017 bytes 71500.73 bytes/sec > total size is 168369681 speedup is 428.14 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > community.db -> community.db.tar.gz > community.db.tar.gz > community.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 1932686 bytes received 56 bytes 1288494.67 bytes/sec > total size is 1932283 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing community-x86_64 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 81 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 2284 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > receiving file list ... done > ./ > dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/dkms-2.2.0.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/gnome-commander-1.2.8.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/nautilus-actions-3.1.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > nsd-3.2.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/nsd-3.2.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > nsd-3.2.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/nsd-3.2.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/python-pymongo-1.9b1-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz > rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/rubyripper-0.6.1-2-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz -> ../../../pool/community/vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig -> ../../../pool/community/vimpager-1.6.3-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting vimpager-1.6.2-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting vimpager-1.6.2-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting rubyripper-0.6.1-1-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting rubyripper-0.6.1-1-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting ruby-locale-2.0.5-4-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting ruby-gettext-2.1.0-4-any.pkg.tar.xz > deleting python-pymongo-1.9b1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.sig > deleting python-pymongo-1.9b1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > deleting nsd-3.2.8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > deleting nautilus-actions-3.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > deleting gnome-commander-1.2.8.14-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz > deleting community.db.tar.gz.old > deleting community.db.tar.gz > deleting community.db > deleting cgmail-0.6.2-4-any.pkg.tar.xz > > sent 60902 bytes received 337636 bytes 72461.45 bytes/sec > total size is 166811745 speedup is 418.56 > ==> Putting databases back in place > building file list ... done > ./ > community.db -> community.db.tar.gz > community.db.tar.gz > community.db.tar.gz.old > > sent 1908027 bytes received 56 bytes 3816166.00 bytes/sec > total size is 1907632 speedup is 1.00 > ==> Processing multilib-i686 > ==> WARNING: /tmp//srv/http/repo/dbscripts/db-sync.13926.cache/multilib/os/i686/multilib.db.tar.gz doesn't exist, skipping this repo-arch > ==> Processing multilib-x86_64 >  -> Removing blacklisted packages: 6 >  -> Process clean db for syncing... >  -> 143 packages in whitelist > MOTD: > MOTD: Welcome to the Linux Kernel Archive. > MOTD: > MOTD: Due to U.S. Exports Regulations, all cryptographic software on this > MOTD: site is subject to the following legal notice: > MOTD: > MOTD: This site includes publicly available encryption source code > MOTD: which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of > MOTD: publicly available source code, may be exported from the United > MOTD: States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section > MOTD: 740.13(e). > MOTD: > MOTD: This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. > MOTD: Please see the Bureau of Industry and Security, > MOTD: http://www.bis.doc.gov/ for more information about current > MOTD: U.S. regulations. > MOTD: > > @ERROR: max connections (100) reached -- try again later > rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1516) [Receiver=3.0.9] > > ==> ERROR: An unknown error has occurred. Exiting... > _______________________________________________ > Maintenance mailing list > Maintenance at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/maintenance > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Mon Dec 12 16:11:08 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:11:08 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323706268.94.0.459501945562.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: Mtjm discovered syslog-ng documentation is unfree (cc-nc-nd), so I'd proppose to change to another one, since providing it without documentation turns it useless. Current options on repositories are: rsyslogd and metalog. Rsyslogd seems too much, and metalog announces itself as tinier than syslog-ng. The problem is that: * Does it's own logrotate (but it doesn't gzip them) * The /var/log tree changes (from everything.log to everything/current in the default log) * It runs as root so the files created are root:root instead of root:log (users on the log group aren't able to read log files) ---------- nosy: +dev_list -mtjm title: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree -> Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Mon Dec 12 16:31:58 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:31:58 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323707518.93.0.0827619896117.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Micha? Mas?owski added the comment: postrotate_cmd in metalog.conf can gzip rotated logs. I never used it. The default configuration would not keep more than 90 MiB of logs, probably much less on typical systems (e.g. with no mail servers). The second problem is not critical, any user changing logger settings already needs to use a different configuration format, and it's easy to find files like /var/log/everything/current (if doing it as root). I didn't know that there is a log group. It probably wouldn't be difficult to patch metalog to support other gid or mode for log files. ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Tue Dec 13 13:12:10 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:12:10 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue224] Check if a package being updated changes soname of an included library In-Reply-To: <1319649337.3.0.0967187104392.issue224@parabolagnulinux.org> Message-ID: <1323781930.11.0.840469939951.issue224@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: doesn't namcap do this? ---------- status: unread -> chatting ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Tue Dec 13 13:21:09 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:21:09 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue224] Check if a package being updated changes soname of an included library In-Reply-To: <1319649337.3.0.0967187104392.issue224@parabolagnulinux.org> Message-ID: <1323782469.3.0.880184572055.issue224@parabolagnulinux.org> Micha? Mas?owski added the comment: namcap checks a package getting information about available libraries from installed packages, it rarely worked correctly when I used it locally. The algorithm described in this issue would not need any packages to be installed and would efficiently update its data when a new package is uploaded. ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Dec 14 00:21:43 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:21:43 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323822103.53.0.177906853372.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: I've put metalog on [libre-testing]. Compat symlinks between rc.d scripts are provided. Couldn't add the root:log feature though. ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Dec 14 06:20:47 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:20:47 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323843647.19.0.279394172095.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Micha? Mas?owski added the comment: I don't understand why a symlink would be needed. It's the only thing making these packages conflict, there might be cases where it's useful to have both loggers installed in one system. We could instead change rc.conf in initscripts (already in libre) to list metalog and write news on the website that metalog is the new default logger. ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Dec 14 13:09:40 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:09:40 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323868180.18.0.246204476215.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: syslog-ng is to be removed at least until man pages license changes for better (encyclomundi is working on that). if you reboot after replacing it with metalog but don't update rc.conf you won't get a syslog running. is not a big problem but i'm being pessimistic :P ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Dec 14 13:22:05 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:22:05 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323868925.81.0.286256749255.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Micha? Mas?owski added the comment: pacman should show a conflict between syslog-ng and your-freedom or ask to replace it with metalog, it would be noticed by an user updating. If no error message is shown when an rc script is missing but specified in daemons, then it's a separate bug. (In any case, this is much better than having a kernel panic after seemingly complete update and a reboot.) When the man pages license is changed, we probably should keep metalog as default logger on mips64el, since we don't know how to fix syslog-ng there. ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Dec 14 13:25:17 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:25:17 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323869117.49.0.244003549702.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: conflict with syslog-ng is there too ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From bugs at parabolagnulinux.org Wed Dec 14 16:35:29 2011 From: bugs at parabolagnulinux.org (=?utf-8?q?Nicol=C3=A1s_Reynolds_=28Parabola_Issue_Tracker=29?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:35:29 +0000 Subject: [Dev] [issue292] Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree Message-ID: <1323880529.11.0.583118728283.issue292@parabolagnulinux.org> Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: new initscripts + metalog without compat symlink are on [libre-testing] ____________________________________________________ Parabola's issue tracker ____________________________________________________ From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Wed Dec 14 16:47:44 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:47:44 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [DRAFT] News post about syslog-ng to metalog change Message-ID: <20111214164744.GK2011@ponape.bal> # Metalog migration. Manual intervention required! We [recently discovered][0] that the default logger from upstream, syslog-ng, is shipped with unfree documentation. As you may know, we're commited to provide not only free software but free documentation to be able to use them. That's why we decided to provide a fully free replacement for it, named metalog. But this isn't a drop-in replacement, so some manual intervention is required: * Accept the syslog-ng removal on next update * Change syslog-ng for metalog on the DAEMONS array (/etc/rc.conf) * Update your scripts to point to /var/log/$facility/current (instead of, for instance `tail -f /var/log/everything.log` use `tail -f /var/log/everything/current`) ## Things you can do to make syslog-ng available again Ask the syslog-ng developers to provide free documentation for their software. _CC-NC-ND isn't free_. Talk to [encyclomundi][1] about this. [0]: https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/bugs/issue292 [1]: http://parlementum.net/cer -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mtjm at mtjm.eu Wed Dec 14 17:03:55 2011 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:03:55 +0100 Subject: [Dev] [DRAFT] News post about syslog-ng to metalog change In-Reply-To: <20111214164744.GK2011@ponape.bal> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds"'s message of "Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:47:44 -0300") References: <20111214164744.GK2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <87mxav3x1g.fsf@mtjm.eu> > We [recently discovered][0] that the default logger from upstream, syslog-ng, > is shipped with unfree documentation. As you may know, we're commited to > provide not only free software but free documentation to be able to use them. A link to https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html would explain why it's important. > That's why we decided to provide a fully free replacement for it, named > metalog. But this isn't a drop-in replacement, so some manual intervention is > required: The first sentence suggests doing something more than we did (metalog was already available and needed nearly no changes). The meaning is that we recommend using metalog instead, make it the default logger and document how to replace syslog-ng by metalog (there are other loggers, but we don't know them). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Wed Dec 14 18:44:05 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:44:05 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [DRAFT] News post about syslog-ng to metalog change In-Reply-To: <20111214164744.GK2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111214164744.GK2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <20111214184405.GM2011@ponape.bal> # Metalog migration. Manual intervention required! We [recently discovered][0] that the default logger from upstream, syslog-ng, is shipped with unfree documentation. As you may know, we're commited to provide not only free software but [free documentation is also important][2] to be able to use them. That's why we decided to replace it for a fully free replacement named metalog, that was previously on [extra] but it's going to be moved into [libre]. This isn't a drop-in replacement though, so some manual intervention is required: * Accept the syslog-ng removal on next update * Change syslog-ng for metalog on the DAEMONS array (/etc/rc.conf) * Update your scripts to point to /var/log/$facility/current (instead of, for instance `tail -f /var/log/everything.log` use `tail -f /var/log/everything/current`) ## Things you can do to make syslog-ng available again Ask the syslog-ng developers to provide free documentation for their software. _CC-NC-ND isn't free_. Talk to [encyclomundi][1] about this. [0]: https://bugs.parabolagnulinux.org/bugs/issue292 [1]: http://parlementum.net/cer [2]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Wed Dec 14 21:17:10 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:17:10 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Package signing policy In-Reply-To: <20111206005153.GY2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> <871usi1vlm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87y5uqzjme.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111206005153.GY2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <20111214211710.GP2011@ponape.bal> El 05/12/11 09:51, Nicol?s Reynolds dijo: > El 05/12/11 06:25, Luke T.Shumaker dijo: > > At Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:50:45 -0500, > > Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > > > At Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:40:12 -0300, > > > Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > > > Hi, I've asked angvp from Arch about the package signing policy that Arch will > > > > have. Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > > > > > > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > > > > > > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > > > > packages > > > > > > > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > > > > > > > * Pacman does other stuff > > > > > > > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > > > > > > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > > > > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > > > > > > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D > > > > > > Agreed, Arch's policy sounds no fun. > > > > Actually, on further reflection, this sounds mostly reasonable. We > > have a few "core" hackers whose keys are in the system. Others can be > > added fairly organically by having other hackers sign their key. > > btw i was just testing the master key thingy, yesterday. now i know what it's > for. > > > In my mind, this gives us 2 parameters to tune (our settings would > > likely be more liberal than Arch's): > > * How many "generations" away from the "master" keys can sign > > packages? The Arch policy says 1, I'd propose 2 or 3. Think of it > > like an Erdos Number. (I propose the the term "Fauno Number") > > haha... > > > * How does one have their key become a master key? I have 2 ideas on > > this: > > 1. You get to have a master key when you are in /hackers. I mean, > > at that point everyone knows you're involved with Parabola. > > 2. You get promoted to a master key when you have signed X many > > packages. > > In any case "master key" is an unfortunate name, we should consider to change > it too. > > I don't see a point in making a hierarchical WOT since it's not the OpenPGP > model but the x509/CA one. > > This remembers me a few weeks ago I thought of a system to represent direct > democracy (assembly mandate, delegation, revocability, etc.) over WOT > relationships, for instance: > > Task X must be done so assembly mandates you as a delegate for it ("represent > the assembly at some Y event"), so everybody signs your gpg key with it's > notation (I was suggested by dkg that it should be made on gpg notations but > I didn't understand the spec). This represents the trust/mandate the assembly > put in you on your keyring. If anyone wants to check your status as delegate > they can check your published key. > > In this sense, my opinion is that a packager can release packages if other > packagers signed their key. This can be done via the regular ways (meet in > place Z and exchange IDs) but since we're all over the globe we can implement > some sort of Socialist Millonaire Protocol a la OTR, or just sign the notation > for "Parabola Packager" if someone wants to explain me how do they work. > > For the initial keyring we just have to sign each other keys and that's it. No > central trusting authority! I've played a little with notations, so I signed mtjm's[1] like this: gpg --N "packager at parabolagnulinux.org=%g" --sign-key mtjm at mtjm.eu "packager at parabolagnulinux.org" means that he's a Parabola Packager, %g is my fingerprint. [1]: https://keys.indymedia.org/pks/lookup?search=mtjm%40mtjm.eu&op=vindex&submit=+Search+ -- Salud! 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Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Sun Dec 18 07:19:49 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 04:19:49 -0300 Subject: [Dev] linux-libre 3.1.5 Message-ID: <20111218071948.GD3287@ponape.bal> needs x86_64 packager :D -- Salud! Nicol?s Reynolds, xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > packages > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > * Pacman does other stuff > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers OB> > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D Bump! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > > packages > > > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > > > * Pacman does other stuff > > > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers > OB> > > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D > > > Bump! I'm attaching a log from #parabola -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: package-signing.log URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From hjensen at gmx.de Fri Dec 23 07:56:08 2011 From: hjensen at gmx.de (Henry Jensen) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:56:08 +0100 Subject: [Dev] Current mozilla based libre browser Message-ID: <20111223085608.0ad22173.hjensen@gmx.de> Hello, as you may have noticed the current version of GNU Icecat - 7.0.1 - is two versions behind the upstream browser. The maintainer of GNU Icecat has announced at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnuzilla/2011-11/msg00016.html that the development of GNUZilla is "going very slow" (not to say that it has stopped). Because of this, in my opinion Icecat is not secure to use anymore. For ConnochaetOS I decided to switch to Debians Iceweasel. Similar to iceweasel-libre-lts I resolved the issues with suggesting non-free plugins by adapting the patch from iceweasel-libre-lts. The package name is iceweasel-libre-current. Yesterday I released iceweasel-libre-current 9.0.1 Feel free to adopt the package for Parabola. The source package, including the libre patch, is located at http://www.connochaetos.org/os/src/iceweasel-libre-current-9.0.1-1.src.tar.xz Regards, Henry From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Fri Dec 23 14:30:46 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:30:46 -0300 Subject: [Dev] Current mozilla based libre browser In-Reply-To: <20111223085608.0ad22173.hjensen@gmx.de> References: <20111223085608.0ad22173.hjensen@gmx.de> Message-ID: <8762h71ht5.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:56:08 +0100, Henry Jensen wrote: > Hello, > > as you may have noticed the current version of GNU Icecat - 7.0.1 - is > two versions behind the upstream browser. The maintainer of GNU Icecat > has announced at > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnuzilla/2011-11/msg00016.html > that the development of GNUZilla is "going very slow" (not to say that > it has stopped). > > Because of this, in my opinion Icecat is not secure to use anymore. For > ConnochaetOS I decided to switch to Debians Iceweasel. Similar to > iceweasel-libre-lts I resolved the issues with suggesting non-free > plugins by adapting the patch from iceweasel-libre-lts. > > The package name is iceweasel-libre-current. Yesterday I released > iceweasel-libre-current 9.0.1 > > Feel free to adopt the package for Parabola. The source package, > including the libre patch, is located at > http://www.connochaetos.org/os/src/iceweasel-libre-current-9.0.1-1.src.tar.xz Thanks! I'll take a look at it :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The source package, > including the libre patch, is located at > http://www.connochaetos.org/os/src/iceweasel-libre-current-9.0.1-1.src.tar.xz Where did you get the iceseasel-9.0.1.tar.gz included in your tarball? ~ Luke Shumaker From hjensen at gmx.de Sun Dec 25 07:33:11 2011 From: hjensen at gmx.de (Henry Jensen) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 08:33:11 +0100 Subject: [Dev] Current mozilla based libre browser In-Reply-To: <874nwp5oiw.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <20111223085608.0ad22173.hjensen@gmx.de> <874nwp5oiw.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111225083311.15a706280b557f183c604d49@gmx.de> I downloaded three files from the mozilla.debian.net repo: http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-release/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_9.0.1.orig.tar.bz2 http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-release/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_9.0.1-1~bpo60+1.debian.tar.gz http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-release/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_9.0.1-1~bpo60+1.dsc and created the tarball under a Debian based system with dpkg-source -x iceweasel_9.0.1-1~bpo60+1.dsc # This command created the source directory plus debian/ subdir with # iceweasel branding and applied patches from the Debian Mozilla team cd iceweasel-9.0.1 tar cvzf ../iceweasel-9.0.1.tar.gz . On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:16:39 -0500 Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > At Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:56:08 +0100, > Henry Jensen wrote: > > Feel free to adopt the package for Parabola. The source package, > > including the libre patch, is located at > > http://www.connochaetos.org/os/src/iceweasel-libre-current-9.0.1-1.src.tar.xz > > Where did you get the iceseasel-9.0.1.tar.gz included in your tarball? > > ~ Luke Shumaker From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 25 23:54:49 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:54:49 -0500 Subject: [Dev] Current mozilla based libre browser In-Reply-To: <20111225083311.15a706280b557f183c604d49@gmx.de> References: <20111223085608.0ad22173.hjensen@gmx.de> <874nwp5oiw.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111225083311.15a706280b557f183c604d49@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87pqfc8awm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Sun, 25 Dec 2011 08:33:11 +0100, Henry Jensen wrote: > I downloaded three files from the mozilla.debian.net repo: > > http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-release/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_9.0.1.orig.tar.bz2 > http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-release/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_9.0.1-1~bpo60+1.debian.tar.gz > http://mozilla.debian.net/pool/iceweasel-release/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_9.0.1-1~bpo60+1.dsc > > and created the tarball under a Debian based system with > > dpkg-source -x iceweasel_9.0.1-1~bpo60+1.dsc > # This command created the source directory plus debian/ subdir with > # iceweasel branding and applied patches from the Debian Mozilla team > > cd iceweasel-9.0.1 > tar cvzf ../iceweasel-9.0.1.tar.gz . Thank you. I've tought the PKGBUILD how to do this itself (with quilt), adapted it to parabola, and tidied it up a bit. Once it compiles and I can verify it to be working, I'll push it to the [~lukeshu] repo in git. Feel free to merge those changes back in to yours! Parabolers: Feel free to move it from [~lukeshu] to [libre]. I'll try iceweasel-libre-lts and binaries up soon *grumble*chroot*grumble*. ~ Luke Shumaker From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Tue Dec 27 18:24:31 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:24:31 -0300 Subject: [Dev] dropping tinc from [social] Message-ID: <87lipx27q8.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> since a much better package has been uploaded to [community], i'll drop our tinc package -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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CER On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 05:19:04PM -0300, fauno wrote: > we got the unzip patch to make a fully libre sourceball, so now we have > unzip-libre instead of depending on p7zip-libre :) > > PS: x86_64 packagers are needed > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:09:56PM -0300, fauno wrote: > on #parabola > 23:08:07 fauno speaking of forums... would it be nicer to > have a statusnet instance instead? > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Isn't it obvious? From cer at parlementum.net Wed Dec 28 22:06:52 2011 From: cer at parlementum.net (Charles Roth) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack In-Reply-To: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> References: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Message-ID: <20111228220652.GA1326@SPQR> encyclomundi: parabola.nu On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 05:59:17PM -0300, fauno wrote: > in the irc channel we have been talking about two things: > > * move parabolagnulinux.org out of godaddy in response to their support > for SOPA. tsolar and encyclomundi are working on this. > > * get a domain hack that's shorter from our current one. we've discussed > the following: > > * parabolagnu.org (cheap) > * parabola.nu (30 euro / year) > * parabola-g.nu (same as above) > > but since there's no consensus, we'll vote for them. vote for your > favourite! > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org Microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy Thu Dec 29 00:15:04 2011 From: andre.paulista at adinet.com.uy (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:15:04 -0200 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack Message-ID: <4EFBB108.8030304@adinet.com.uy> +1 parabolagnu.org From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Thu Dec 29 12:56:58 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:56:58 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack In-Reply-To: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> References: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Message-ID: <87fwg3wn6t.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:59:17 -0300, Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > in the irc channel we have been talking about two things: > > * move parabolagnulinux.org out of godaddy in response to their support > for SOPA. tsolar and encyclomundi are working on this. > > * get a domain hack that's shorter from our current one. we've discussed > the following: > > * parabolagnu.org (cheap) > * parabola.nu (30 euro / year) > * parabola-g.nu (same as above) > > but since there's no consensus, we'll vote for them. vote for your > favourite! i shouldn't have put the price on the list, because it wasn't the main problem... i hope this didn't precondition anyone in the selection :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 1281 URL: From mtjm at mtjm.eu Thu Dec 29 13:56:34 2011 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:56:34 +0100 Subject: [Dev] [Tom Gundersen] [arch-dev-public] [HEADSUP] Minimum kernel version bump In-Reply-To: <878vlvwlw8.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds"'s message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:24:55 -0300") References: <878vlvwlw8.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> Message-ID: <877h1ftral.fsf@mtjm.eu> > I think it does not make any sense for people to hold back udev and > upgrade other packages, so once this is out I'll remove support for > non-devtmpfs kernels in initscripts too. It might possibly make sense > to re-evaluate our minimum kernel version supported in glibc, but I'll > leave that to more knowledgeable people. Our mips64el glibc is configured to require 2.6.27 or later for mips64el, we probably should check what would requiring newer release do. I want to change some packages (libvorbis, inkscape, evince, ppl) so they will use Loongson?2F-specific instructions, making a sigill with kernels older than 3.1.6 (somewhen after it will be packaged), glibc already does it in rare cases (e.g. ppl tests) and audacity always does it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From sharkx.forever at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 20:48:52 2011 From: sharkx.forever at gmail.com (sharkx forever) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:48:52 -0500 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack Message-ID: I voted for parabola.nu because it dose not have gnu in its name. While we follow gnu's philosophy of free software, we are not affiliated to the gnu organization as such. ".nu" has no meaning to me. How about a domain name like parabola.li or parabola.fr, where .li or .fr could be taken to mean libre or freedom? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mtjm at mtjm.eu Thu Dec 29 21:44:18 2011 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:44:18 +0100 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack In-Reply-To: <4EFCD78F.6030205@congresolibre.org> ("Quiliro \=\?utf-8\?B\?T3Jk\?\= \=\?utf-8\?B\?w7PDsWV6Iidz\?\= message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:11:43 -0500") References: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <871urntes7.fsf@mtjm.eu> <4EFCD78F.6030205@congresolibre.org> Message-ID: <87r4znrr2l.fsf@mtjm.eu> >>> * parabolagnu.org (cheap) >> It has unoptimal length and might be restricted by the US. > > Why? The argument is that US courts/government might block a .org domain, while it's more difficult in case of TLDs not controlled by US organizations (there were many such cases with .com, the only .org one which I remember reading about was wikileaks.org). It's improbable to affect Parabola directly, but it might be better to promote TLDs which don't have this problem. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Thu Dec 29 23:16:57 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:16:57 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87d3b7ezo6.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:48:52 -0500, sharkx forever wrote: > I voted for parabola.nu because it dose not have gnu in its name. While we > follow gnu's philosophy of free software, we are not affiliated to the gnu > organization as such. ".nu" has no meaning to me. 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Mas?owski > >>> * parabolagnu.org (cheap) > >> It has unoptimal length and might be restricted by the US. > > > > Why? > > The argument is that US courts/government might block a .org domain, > while it's more difficult in case of TLDs not controlled by US > organizations (there were many such cases with .com, the only .org one > which I remember reading about was wikileaks.org). It's improbable to > affect Parabola directly, but it might be better to promote TLDs which > don't have this problem. > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think we should. ~ Luke Shumaker From cer at parlementum.net Sat Dec 31 03:40:45 2011 From: cer at parlementum.net (Charles Roth) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:40:45 -0800 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack In-Reply-To: <87ipkx8lmf.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <871urntes7.fsf@mtjm.eu> <4EFCD78F.6030205@congresolibre.org> <87r4znrr2l.fsf@mtjm.eu> <87ipkx8lmf.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111231034044.GA1343@SPQR> my understanding is that for NOW 2 separate things are happening: 1. the current domain is being moved away from GoDaddy 2. a new domain is being started, initially, to host the parabola statusnite site Later on a decision can be made about whether to merge them. Charles On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:29:12PM -0500, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > At Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:58:13 -0600, > Joshua Ismael Haase Hern?ndez wrote: > > Hearing the arguments about the .org, my vote goes to: > > > > parabola.nu > > > > will we keep the current domain as a redirection? > > I think we should. > > ~ Luke Shumaker > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org Microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[ Try Again ] From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 31 05:11:52 2011 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke T.Shumaker) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 00:11:52 -0500 Subject: [Dev] HTTPS on the web server is down. In-Reply-To: <87fwg18iwt.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <87fwg18iwt.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <87boqp8gvb.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> It sounds like I may be the only one having this problem. lukeshu: libre-testing/icecat 9.0.1-1-i686: ERROR lukeshu: libre/icecat 7.0.1-1-i686: ERROR lukeshu: extra/arora 0.11.0-3-i686: FINE Emulatorman: libre/icecat 5 x86_64: FINE Emulatorman: libre/icecat 7 i686: FINE Perhaps it is just the ISP screwing with OCSP. ~ Luke Shumaker At Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:27:46 -0500, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > HTTPS on parabolagnulinux.org is borked. I wouldn't be surprised if > this is because of the domain name registrar switch. > > ~ Luke Shumaker. > > = Secure Connection Failed = > > An error occurred during a connection to wiki.parabolagnulinux.org. > > The OCSP server experienced an internal error. > > (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_server_error) > > * The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the > authenticity of the received data could not be verified. > * Please contact the website owners to inform them of this > problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the help menu to > report this broken site. > > [ Try Again ] > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev From cer at parlementum.net Sat Dec 31 05:40:38 2011 From: cer at parlementum.net (Charles Roth) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:40:38 -0800 Subject: [Dev] HTTPS on the web server is down. In-Reply-To: <87fwg18iwt.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <87fwg18iwt.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20111231054037.GB1343@SPQR> I haven't implemented any changes yet. it's not the change. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:27:46PM -0500, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > HTTPS on parabolagnulinux.org is borked. I wouldn't be surprised if > this is because of the domain name registrar switch. > > ~ Luke Shumaker. > > = Secure Connection Failed = > > An error occurred during a connection to wiki.parabolagnulinux.org. > > The OCSP server experienced an internal error. > > (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_server_error) > > * The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the > authenticity of the received data could not be verified. > * Please contact the website owners to inform them of this > problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the help menu to > report this broken site. > > [ Try Again ] > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev > -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org Microblog: http://parlementum.net/parlementum About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar Sat Dec 31 13:49:08 2011 From: fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar (=?utf-8?Q?Nicol=C3=A1s?= Reynolds) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:49:08 -0300 Subject: [Dev] [votation] parabola's moving out of goddady + domain hack In-Reply-To: <20111231034044.GA1343@SPQR> References: <8739c4xviy.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> <871urntes7.fsf@mtjm.eu> <4EFCD78F.6030205@congresolibre.org> <87r4znrr2l.fsf@mtjm.eu> <87ipkx8lmf.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111231034044.GA1343@SPQR> Message-ID: <87r4zkdf6z.fsf@kiwwwi.com.ar> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:40:45 -0800, Charles Roth wrote: > my understanding is that for NOW 2 separate things are happening: > > 1. the current domain is being moved away from GoDaddy > > 2. a new domain is being started, initially, to host the parabola statusnite site > > Later on a decision can be made about whether to merge them. i was thinking the same services will be served by the .org and the .nu domain (by redirection) and the statusnet/forum would be something like f.parabola.nu or whatever. or at least we can move community services there, besides the forum, xmpp accounts, email redirections, etc. (easier to manage with ldap if someone figures out how to configure it :P) i'm just thinking out loud... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 489 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cer at encyclomundi.org Tue Dec 6 01:17:56 2011 From: cer at encyclomundi.org (Charles Roth) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:17:56 -0000 Subject: [Dev] Package signing policy In-Reply-To: <20111206005153.GY2011@ponape.bal> References: <20111205194012.GR2011@ponape.bal> <871usi1vlm.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <87y5uqzjme.wl%lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> <20111206005153.GY2011@ponape.bal> Message-ID: <20111206012009.GA1314@SPQR> I support democratic model. packages can be signed by any hacker with 2+ other hackers signing their pgp. There are 3 levels of pgp trust and we have enough interaction in the server and irc to go to level 2 on any of us. We should also promote this model we are using. I would also be fine with monkeysphere. To me package signing is about knowing the encyclomundi updated the package. We already have access to the server. signing doesn't prevent any other form of fraud or tampering. :) On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:51:53PM -0300, fauno wrote: > El 05/12/11 06:25, Luke T.Shumaker dijo: > > At Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:50:45 -0500, > > Luke T.Shumaker wrote: > > > At Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:40:12 -0300, > > > Nicol?s Reynolds wrote: > > > > Hi, I've asked angvp from Arch about the package signing policy that Arch will > > > > have. Apparently nothing's decided yet, but they're implementing this: > > > > > > > > * There will be 5 "master keys" from 5 notorious Arch devs > > > > > > > > * A packager key must be signed for at least 3 of the master keys to upload > > > > packages > > > > > > > > * This policy will be coded in dbscripts > > > > > > > > * Pacman does other stuff > > > > > > > > * Keys would be signed by other Arch packagers > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: this is my own interpretation of what angvp told me ;) > > > > > > > > He'll document himself a little more to give us information. But I think now is > > > > the moment to define our own package signing policy. > > > > > > > > IMO they should be simple and democratic :D > > > > > > Agreed, Arch's policy sounds no fun. > > > > Actually, on further reflection, this sounds mostly reasonable. We > > have a few "core" hackers whose keys are in the system. Others can be > > added fairly organically by having other hackers sign their key. > > btw i was just testing the master key thingy, yesterday. now i know what it's > for. > > > In my mind, this gives us 2 parameters to tune (our settings would > > likely be more liberal than Arch's): > > * How many "generations" away from the "master" keys can sign > > packages? The Arch policy says 1, I'd propose 2 or 3. Think of it > > like an Erdos Number. (I propose the the term "Fauno Number") > > haha... > > > * How does one have their key become a master key? I have 2 ideas on > > this: > > 1. You get to have a master key when you are in /hackers. I mean, > > at that point everyone knows you're involved with Parabola. > > 2. You get promoted to a master key when you have signed X many > > packages. > > In any case "master key" is an unfortunate name, we should consider to change > it too. > > I don't see a point in making a hierarchical WOT since it's not the OpenPGP > model but the x509/CA one. > > This remembers me a few weeks ago I thought of a system to represent direct > democracy (assembly mandate, delegation, revocability, etc.) over WOT > relationships, for instance: > > Task X must be done so assembly mandates you as a delegate for it ("represent > the assembly at some Y event"), so everybody signs your gpg key with it's > notation (I was suggested by dkg that it should be made on gpg notations but > I didn't understand the spec). This represents the trust/mandate the assembly > put in you on your keyring. If anyone wants to check your status as delegate > they can check your published key. > > In this sense, my opinion is that a packager can release packages if other > packagers signed their key. This can be done via the regular ways (meet in > place Z and exchange IDs) but since we're all over the globe we can implement > some sort of Socialist Millonaire Protocol a la OTR, or just sign the notation > for "Parabola Packager" if someone wants to explain me how do they work. > > For the initial keyring we just have to sign each other keys and that's it. No > central trusting authority! > > > Relatedly, since this would affect dbscripts; Why are our dbscripts > > not maintained as a fork of Arch's dbscripts so that we can "easily" > > pull? The git repos share no history. > > They shared one many commits ago. > > > Another idea: since package releasing is done via ssh, we can finally consider > using monkeysphere[0]! :P > > > [0]: http://web.monkeysphere.info > > -- > Salud! > Nicol?s Reynolds, > xmpp:fauno at kiwwwi.com.ar > omb:http://identi.ca/fauno > > OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 > > http://parabolagnulinux.org > http://endefensadelsl.org > > "Freedom [...] is messy" ~ Eben Moglen > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:11:08PM +0000, Nicol?s Reynolds (Parabola Issue Tracker) wrote: > > Nicol?s Reynolds added the comment: > > Mtjm discovered syslog-ng documentation is unfree (cc-nc-nd), so I'd proppose to > change to another one, since providing it without documentation turns it useless. > > Current options on repositories are: rsyslogd and metalog. > > Rsyslogd seems too much, and metalog announces itself as tinier than syslog-ng. > The problem is that: > > * Does it's own logrotate (but it doesn't gzip them) > * The /var/log tree changes (from everything.log to everything/current in the > default log) > * It runs as root so the files created are root:root instead of root:log (users > on the log group aren't able to read log files) > > ---------- > nosy: +dev_list -mtjm > title: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree -> Migrate to a free syslogd Was: [syslog-ng] man pages are nonfree > > ____________________________________________________ > Parabola's issue tracker > > ____________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.parabolagnulinux.org > http://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/dev -- Charles Roth Cultural Detective and Curious Antiquary General Editor of The Encyclomundi Wiki Email: cer at encyclomundi.org About Me: http://encyclomundi.org/wiki/User:Encyclom "Like so many Victorian gentlemen of leisure, he published pamphlets" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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