From brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io Thu Jun 11 20:59:24 2020 From: brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io (brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 22:59:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Assist] opensysusers and systemd are in conflict Message-ID: I'm not 100% new to GNU/Linux but this is my first Parabola install. I'm using the latest Parabola OpenRC CLI ISO installing it on VirtualBox on a Windows 10 machine, I'm trying things first and if everything works out I'll have Parabola as my only OS. I've read the Beginner's Guide, the pacman page at ArchWiki and the troubleshooting section, as well as some issues on the Arch forums about similar issues. So here's the issue: Screenshot It says that opensysusers and systemd are in conflict. What I have tried: pacman -S libelogind pacman -Syyuu I want a installation with OpenRC instead of systemd. I have 25G of space on my virtual machine. This is probably some basic issue with an easy fix, but I can't seem to solve it. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 12 01:59:08 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 21:59:08 -0400 Subject: [Assist] opensysusers and systemd are in conflict In-Reply-To: <660b707b-6b50-a0df-68eb-99eea093eb3a@hyperbola.info> References: <20200611185407.4924e06b@parabola> <660b707b-6b50-a0df-68eb-99eea093eb3a@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: <20200611215908.48988126@parabola> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:45:25 -0400 Megver83 wrote: > should be: pacstrap /mnt base elogind libelogind eudev > eudev-libudev udev-init-scripts "should be" in what sense? - if that is the mandatory bare-minimum, then that should be the instruction on the install guide - the install guide has base and elogind now; but in my experience, only base and libelogind are mandatory, in order to working system which avoids installing any systemd packages - elogind is needed when you go to a more complete desktop system i looked up those packages - elogind will pull in libelogind - udev-init-scripts will pull in eudev, which will pull in eudev-libudev - so that command reduces to: # pacstrap /mnt base elogind udev-init-scripts On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:45:25 -0400 Megver83 wrote: > To install base-devel, one just have > to pass --ignore to the systemd pkgs ok thats good to know - i have been telling people that it was not possible From somenxavier at posteo.net Fri Jun 12 13:31:37 2020 From: somenxavier at posteo.net (Xavier B.) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:31:37 +0200 Subject: [Assist] Put openrc service in dnscrypt-proxy package Message-ID: <20200612153137.e7eb8a822a67c3298c2c2aad@posteo.net> > what Xavier is asking for is surely not as complicated as this > discussion would make it appear to be - an init script is a very > tiny simple thing to add to the system > > when some init script is missing for openrc, it is not a case of > priority or favoritism - parabola was built upon arch, and arch > uses systemd - openrc support was added much more recently; but > not every program works with openrc without some special > attention - if no one has asked for openrc support for some > program before; then it has probably not been added yet - almost > every openrc init script in parabola, got there because someone > asked for it specifically - requests just like this one have > been the normal procedure > > so what needs to happen exactly, does an init script for this > service exists anywhere, or maybe someone needs to write one? Thanks Bill for pointing it. An easy solution is to import directly the packages *-openrc from artix which has openrc as default and it is a fork from arch too. From brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io Thu Jun 18 21:21:33 2020 From: brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io (brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 23:21:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Assist] Brave Browser Message-ID: I use Brave Browser. Will it be added to Parabola repositories any time soon? I checked /usr/share/doc/your-freedom/blacklist.txt and the package names "brave" and "brave-browser" isn't there, so I assume it hasn't been blacklisted. I also contacted Luke Smith, a YouTuber that uses Parabola, and he responded saying that Brave is free software. Any info on this? Thanks in advance! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See issue #1034 @ https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1034 Tho those are quite old and may need re-evaluation. Tho Brave did just get in hot water for redirecting manually entered URLs to their affiliate program. See: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology I guess the old adage that "Security is proven, Not claimed" Applies to privacy and freedom as well. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll CC: this back to the list. That is actually an interesting question. I'm sure st used to be in the (arch) repos and thus in Parabola. I'm certain that surf used to be there cause I used it until I started building a custom one with JS, cookies, and a few other things set the way I like them by default. You are right the sucless tools are very useful and all fully free unless something changed. So if Arch pulled them Parabola should add them back. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Then, as this Arch Wiki entry suggested, I ran modprobe e1000, but it gave me the following errors: modprobe: FATAL: Module e1000 not found in directory /lib/modules/5.4.12-gnu-1 At first I thought of downloading the module directly from Intel's website, but it requires that I make install it, and when I tried it I got a lot of different errors. But then I realized that perhaps compiling it wasn't necessary, the rationale being that within the Parabola live installation ISO I had stable Ethernet connection, so I tried the dmesg | grep e1000 command while within the live Parabola and it returned the following: [? ? ? ? 4.031943] e1000: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.21-k8-NAPI[? ? ? ? 4.031943] e1000: Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation. [? ? ? ? 4.415594] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) 08:00:27:d4:6d:4d [? ? ? ? 4.415598] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection [? ? ? ? 7.046096] e1000?0000:00:03.0 enp0s3: renamed from eth0 [? ? ? ?10.162081] e1000: enp0s3 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX I know that drivers in general are a pain in the ***, since these drivers are (I think?) proprietary. But noticing that the live ISO had internet access gave me hope. Any help is greatly appreciated, I hope I gave sufficient information for debugging. Thanks in advance! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From megver83 at hyperbola.info Mon Jun 22 06:06:40 2020 From: megver83 at hyperbola.info (Megver83) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 02:06:40 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Module e1000 not found (can't load Ethernet card kernel module) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <872765ad-a9f7-2c3b-8847-96a7b5841a34@hyperbola.info> What kernel version are you running? the latest 5.4 kernel has that module, however it looks like you're running a prehistorical version (did you installed Parabola from an "offline ISO", if yes, then upgrade your system) from the times 5.4 was the stable kernel, which as of now is 5.7 (5.4 gen is LTS right now) Upgrade your kernels, reboot, and everything should work. El 22-06-20 a las 00:29, brskinzdenuncia at tuta.io escribi?: > I successfully installed Parabola for the first time in my virtual > machine. The only issue is that I don't have internet access. I read > through the Network configuration entry > > in the Arch Wiki, and found out that my Ethernet card wasn't being > recognized. After booting into my newly installed Parabola system, I > ranlspci -v and noted that my Ethernet kernel module ise1000 (it's an > Intel card, apparently it's this one > ), > then I randmesg | grep e1000, and as expected nothing showed up, so I > assumed it wasn't loaded. Then, as this Arch Wiki entry > > suggested, I ranmodprobe e1000, but it gave me the following errors: > > modprobe: FATAL: Module e1000 not found in directory > /lib/modules/5.4.12-gnu-1 > > At first I thought of downloading the module directly from Intel's > website, but it requires that Imake install it, and when I tried it I > got a lot of different errors. But then I realized that perhaps > compiling it wasn't necessary, the rationale being that within the > Parabola live installation ISO I had stable Ethernet connection, so I > tried thedmesg | grep e1000 command while within the live Parabola and > it returned the following: > > [? ? ? ? 4.031943] e1000: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version > 7.3.21-k8-NAPI > [? ? ? ? 4.031943] e1000: Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation. > [? ? ? ? 4.415594] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) > 08:00:27:d4:6d:4d > [? ? ? ? 4.415598] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network > Connection > [? ? ? ? 7.046096] e1000?0000:00:03.0 enp0s3: renamed from eth0 > [? ? ? ?10.162081] e1000: enp0s3 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, > Flow Control: RX > > I know that drivers in general are a pain in the ***, since these > drivers are (I think?) proprietary. But noticing that the live ISO had > internet access gave me hope. > > Any help is greatly appreciated, I hope I gave sufficient information > for debugging. Thanks in advance! > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After booting into my newly installed Parabola system, I ran > lspci -v and noted that my Ethernet kernel module is e1000 (it's an Intel > card, apparently it's this one > ), > then I ran dmesg | grep e1000, and as expected nothing showed up, so I > assumed it wasn't loaded. Then, as this Arch Wiki entry > > suggested, I ran modprobe e1000, but it gave me the following errors: > > modprobe: FATAL: Module e1000 not found in directory > /lib/modules/5.4.12-gnu-1 > > At first I thought of downloading the module directly from Intel's website, > but it requires that I make install it, and when I tried it I got a lot of > different errors. But then I realized that perhaps compiling it wasn't > necessary, the rationale being that within the Parabola live installation ISO > I had stable Ethernet connection, so I tried the dmesg | grep e1000 command > while within the live Parabola and it returned the following: > > [? ? ? ? 4.031943] e1000: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version > 7.3.21-k8-NAPI[? ? ? ? 4.031943] e1000: Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel > Corporation. [? ? ? ? 4.415594] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) > 08:00:27:d4:6d:4d [? ? ? ? 4.415598] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: Intel(R) > PRO/1000 Network Connection [? ? ? ? 7.046096] e1000?0000:00:03.0 enp0s3: > renamed from eth0 [? ? ? ?10.162081] e1000: enp0s3 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps > Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX I know that drivers in general are a pain in > the ***, since these drivers are (I think?) proprietary. But noticing that > the live ISO had internet access gave me hope. > > Any help is greatly appreciated, I hope I gave sufficient information for > debugging. Thanks in advance! > _______________________________________________ Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist This sounds like an issue that I have run into occasionally in situations where I pacman -Suy but then don't reboot. If pacman -Suy pulls in a new kernel the system will be unable to find modules as they'll now be living in /lib/modules/ but the system will still be trying to look in /lib/modules/. ls /lib/modules/ and check that /lib/modules/5.4.12-gnu-1 matches the installed kernel not just the current running kernel. If /lib/modules/ is newer then waht uname -a reports then a reboot may fix the issue. If they are out of sync and you have done a reboot then something else has caused them to be out of sync and reporting the values of uname -a and ls /lib/modules/ may help to debug the issue. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From mnovak10120 at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 09:47:55 2020 From: mnovak10120 at gmail.com (Michael Novak) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:47:55 +0300 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager Message-ID: In the last few days I tried to install parabola for the first time (before that, the only gnu/linux distro I used was Trisquel), and after a few failed attempts, I finally succeeded today. I can boot to parabola without the usb drive, I can enter my user and overall I felt like the installation was really smooth. The only problem is that I can't connect to the internet (ping websites, use pacman and so on...). This is really weird because I followed the installation guide precisely and I enabled neworkmanager. I can even type: rc-update add NetworkManager default and get in return: * rc-update: NetworkManager already installed in runlevel 'default'; skipping So, I just have no idea what the problem is. If you have some suggestions, it would help me a lot. I really don't want to give up after I got this far. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 13:24:29 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 09:24:29 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200626092429.7868e02c@parabola> try running `nmtui` to select a network From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 15:51:23 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:51:23 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200626115123.66df8ab8@parabola> Michael - you replied to only me personally - i am repeating your message for the mailing list On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 16:50:07 +0300 Michael wrote: > I'm not familiar with this nmtui interactive manual, but when > I run it and choose Activate a connection this is the screen I > got, which I think means that Networkmnager doesn't recognize > any connection: [image: image.png] > I also run ip link and got this output which I think is not a > good sign: [image: image.png] > Thank you very much for trying to help. those images show that `ip link` reports only the 'lo' device - the kernel is not detecting you ethernet device - try this command and see if you see anything important $ dmesg | grep EE are you absolutely certain that this device works with trisquel? From megver83 at hyperbola.info Fri Jun 26 16:05:39 2020 From: megver83 at hyperbola.info (Megver83) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:05:39 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> which is your network card? please, share your `lspci -k` output, it doesn't look like a NetworkManager issue El 26-06-20 a las 05:47, Michael Novak escribi?: > In the last few days I tried to install parabola for the first time > (before that, the only gnu/linux distro I used was Trisquel), and after > a few failed attempts, I finally succeeded today. I can boot to parabola > without the usb drive, I can enter my user and overall I felt like the > installation was really smooth. The only problem is that I can't connect > to the internet (ping websites, use pacman and so on...). This is really > weird because I followed the installation guide precisely and I enabled > neworkmanager. I can even type: > > |rc-update add NetworkManager default| > > and get in return: > > |* rc-update: NetworkManager already installed in runlevel 'default'; > skipping| > > So, I just have no idea what the problem is. If you have some > suggestions, it would help me a lot. I really don't want to give up > after I got this far. > > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When I run ispci -k, I got: -bash: ispci command not found Now that I think about it, the only problem that I can think of when I installed Parabola was some error with word ispci in several occasions, but it was just a warning among a lot of lines that passed so I didn't thought it was important. I don't remember exactly where all the times I've seen these errors but I think it was when I installed a few things with pacman or pacstrap, maybe when I updated the keys and when openrc starts in boot, but I don't remember exactly. On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 19:07, Megver83 wrote: > which is your network card? please, share your `lspci -k` output, it > doesn't look like a NetworkManager issue > > El 26-06-20 a las 05:47, Michael Novak escribi?: > > In the last few days I tried to install parabola for the first time > > (before that, the only gnu/linux distro I used was Trisquel), and after > > a few failed attempts, I finally succeeded today. I can boot to parabola > > without the usb drive, I can enter my user and overall I felt like the > > installation was really smooth. The only problem is that I can't connect > > to the internet (ping websites, use pacman and so on...). This is really > > weird because I followed the installation guide precisely and I enabled > > neworkmanager. I can even type: > > > > |rc-update add NetworkManager default| > > > > and get in return: > > > > |* rc-update: NetworkManager already installed in runlevel 'default'; > > skipping| > > > > So, I just have no idea what the problem is. If you have some > > suggestions, it would help me a lot. I really don't want to give up > > after I got this far. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Assist mailing list > > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > > > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 16:54:30 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:54:30 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: <20200626125430.3bcf926e@parabola> that command begins with 'l' not 'i': $ lspci -k the warnings you saw during install are related to some ISCSI driver - that is not related and has never been a problem for anyone From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 17:07:52 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:07:52 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> michael sent a reply; but the server rejected it because it had large images attached - lspci shows the device as such: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03) Subsystem: Lenovo ThinkPad T400 Kernel Module: e100e From megver83 at hyperbola.info Fri Jun 26 17:15:17 2020 From: megver83 at hyperbola.info (Megver83) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:15:17 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> Message-ID: <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> right now I've a doubt, I haven't read *all* the messages, but are you trying to connect trough WiFi or Ethernet? If you're trying wifi, then make sure to have linux-libre-firmware installed El 26-06-20 a las 13:07, bill-auger escribi?: > michael sent a reply; but the server rejected it because it had > large images attached - lspci shows the device as such: > > 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03) > Subsystem: Lenovo ThinkPad T400 > Kernel Module: e100e > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From edgarlux at mailfence.com Tue Jun 23 02:32:58 2020 From: edgarlux at mailfence.com (Edgar Lux) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 04:32:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Assist] can't boot (bug 2816) Message-ID: <151943623.782054.1592879578294@ichabod.co-bxl> Hi. Any attention to this bug, would be much appreciated. Thanks. https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/2816 From mnovak10120 at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 17:20:20 2020 From: mnovak10120 at gmail.com (Michael Novak) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:20:20 +0300 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: I'm trying to connect with Etherenet. My messsage that had two pictures and was rejected is this (without the image): Sorry, I misread the name lspci for ispci, so I do have this command, but what I said about some warning messages that I think I saw mentioning this word is still relevant. Because the output of this command was too long to fit on the screen I put it in a text file and open it in vim so I could take two pictures of the top and of the bottom. Is there a prefered way for sending pictures? On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 20:16, Megver83 wrote: > right now I've a doubt, I haven't read *all* the messages, but are you > trying to connect trough WiFi or Ethernet? > > If you're trying wifi, then make sure to have linux-libre-firmware > installed > > El 26-06-20 a las 13:07, bill-auger escribi?: > > michael sent a reply; but the server rejected it because it had > > large images attached - lspci shows the device as such: > > > > 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network > Connection (rev 03) > > Subsystem: Lenovo ThinkPad T400 > > Kernel Module: e100e > > _______________________________________________ > > Assist mailing list > > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > > > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 17:40:50 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: <20200626134050.439557c3@parabola> text is better than images for email - you could make the images smaller with compression before sending - better though, if you had a working network on the system, you can post text to termbin like: $ lspci -v | nc termbin.com 9999 the 'parabola-laf' package has a helper to make that easier to remember $ lspci -v | ppaste i mention that method because i suspect that you could boot the parabola ISO; and that ethernet device would work - presumably it did yes? - that is how you installed the system? From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 17:43:18 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:43:18 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: <20200626134318.33c10e4b@parabola> megver - is 'udev-init-scripts' important for this? - you mentioned last week that it is a fairly important package for openrc users - the install guide does not suggest it now though From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 17:47:19 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:47:19 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> Message-ID: <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> FWIW, my MOBO has a very similar model gigabit-ethernet device; and im pretty sure that it works OOTB with openrc - i have not tested it yet though; and i can not remember if i installed 'udev-init-scripts' or not - maybe i will later From mnovak10120 at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 17:55:57 2020 From: mnovak10120 at gmail.com (Michael Novak) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:55:57 +0300 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> Message-ID: Yes, when I installed Parabola from the iso, the internet connection worked without any problems. So, are the pictures still important? I can try to compress them and send them again. On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 20:50, bill-auger wrote: > FWIW, my MOBO has a very similar model gigabit-ethernet device; > and im pretty sure that it works OOTB with openrc - i have not > tested it yet though; and i can not remember if i installed > 'udev-init-scripts' or not - maybe i will later > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 20:15:14 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 16:15:14 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> Message-ID: <20200626161514.4d0f50a0@parabola> ok - michael has a working network now - it was fixed by installing the 'udev-init-scripts' package From mnovak10120 at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 20:30:17 2020 From: mnovak10120 at gmail.com (Michael Novak) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 23:30:17 +0300 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <20200626161514.4d0f50a0@parabola> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> <20200626161514.4d0f50a0@parabola> Message-ID: Yea, thank you very much for helping me, you are all amazing. Perhaps installing udev-init-scripts should be added to the guide. Two last things (if that's not a good place to ask about them, I totally get it no problem): 1. What web browser do you recommend? I want something similar to abrowser from Trisquel. I thought about icecat, but I heard that it's not getting updates any more which seems like it might be a bad idea in terms of security. Is true? 2. I feel a bit ashamed for using gmail to talk with you. Which email provider do you recommend? Thanks again. On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 23:18, bill-auger wrote: > ok - michael has a working network now - it was fixed > by installing the 'udev-init-scripts' package > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 22:11:57 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 18:11:57 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Brave Browser In-Reply-To: <20200620022222.GM10708@freemor.ca> References: <20200619005055.GD10708@freemor.ca> <20200620022222.GM10708@freemor.ca> Message-ID: <20200626181157.6c6740a1@parabola> al lot of people use dwm and dmenu also From bill-auger at peers.community Fri Jun 26 23:20:08 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 19:20:08 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> <20200626161514.4d0f50a0@parabola> Message-ID: <20200626191946.2f011a11@parabola> iceweasel is the parabola equivalent to abrowser - for the most part, you would not notice any difference - icecat is a ESR (LTS) release - you would not notice any difference using icecat either, other than that it gets fewer updates; because LTS software does not get updated as often - icecat is actively maintained though - anyone with the impression that it will get no more updates is mistaken - the difference is the same between a rolling distro like parabola, and an LTS distro such as trisquel - this wiki article explains better: https://wiki.parabola.nu/Rolling_vs._LTS the only email provider that i would recommend is: "you", self-hosting for yourself - the most common third-party services which i see libre-minded folks using, are cock.li, riseup, protonmail, and tutanota - those are the only ones that i know of which claim to be privacy-respecting, and again, many self-host their own email - but it would be disingenuous of me (or anyone) to sincerely recommend relying on anyone else's computer, for any reason, unless i personally knew and trusted the operators of that server From mnovak10120 at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 09:08:49 2020 From: mnovak10120 at gmail.com (Michael Novak) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:08:49 +0300 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: <20200626191946.2f011a11@parabola> References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> <20200626161514.4d0f50a0@parabola> <20200626191946.2f011a11@parabola> Message-ID: Thank you very much! On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 02:23, bill-auger wrote: > iceweasel is the parabola equivalent to abrowser - for the most > part, you would not notice any difference - icecat is a ESR > (LTS) release - you would not notice any difference using icecat > either, other than that it gets fewer updates; because LTS > software does not get updated as often - icecat is actively > maintained though - anyone with the impression that it will get > no more updates is mistaken - the difference is the same between > a rolling distro like parabola, and an LTS distro such as > trisquel - this wiki article explains better: > > https://wiki.parabola.nu/Rolling_vs._LTS > > the only email provider that i would recommend is: "you", > self-hosting for yourself - the most common third-party services > which i see libre-minded folks using, are cock.li, riseup, > protonmail, and tutanota - those are the only ones that i know of > which claim to be privacy-respecting, and again, many > self-host their own email - but it would be disingenuous of me > (or anyone) to sincerely recommend relying on anyone else's > computer, for any reason, unless i personally knew and trusted > the operators of that server > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill-auger at peers.community Sat Jun 27 11:04:36 2020 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 07:04:36 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Brave Browser In-Reply-To: <20200620022222.GM10708@freemor.ca> References: <20200619005055.GD10708@freemor.ca> <20200620022222.GM10708@freemor.ca> Message-ID: <20200627070436.56c7c20e@parabola> ok so they kept dmenu apparently Required By (7) clipmenu spectrwm herbstluftwm (optional) i3-gaps (optional) i3-wm (optional) pass (optional) sway (optional) i vote for freemor to lead the charge on this important challenge which faces our great distro - lets make parabola suckless again! From mnovak10120 at gmail.com Sat Jun 27 11:20:40 2020 From: mnovak10120 at gmail.com (Michael Novak) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 14:20:40 +0300 Subject: [Assist] Wired Internet doesn't Work After a Smooth Install with OpenRC and NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: <3ee43952-6c0e-d02e-27f7-daaca7588341@hyperbola.info> <20200626130752.4718bc12@parabola> <63b47056-7dcb-ee2c-e180-e342727a63e5@hyperbola.info> <20200626134719.0b82a0eb@parabola> <20200626161514.4d0f50a0@parabola> <20200626191946.2f011a11@parabola> Message-ID: Hi everyone, I accidently, sent my previous message only to bill auger. I installed Icecat, Xmonad, xmobar, dmenu, termite and lightdm, and so far I'm very happy with them. Thanks again. On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 12:08, Michael Novak wrote: > Thank you very much! > > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 02:23, bill-auger > wrote: > >> iceweasel is the parabola equivalent to abrowser - for the most >> part, you would not notice any difference - icecat is a ESR >> (LTS) release - you would not notice any difference using icecat >> either, other than that it gets fewer updates; because LTS >> software does not get updated as often - icecat is actively >> maintained though - anyone with the impression that it will get >> no more updates is mistaken - the difference is the same between >> a rolling distro like parabola, and an LTS distro such as >> trisquel - this wiki article explains better: >> >> https://wiki.parabola.nu/Rolling_vs._LTS >> >> the only email provider that i would recommend is: "you", >> self-hosting for yourself - the most common third-party services >> which i see libre-minded folks using, are cock.li, riseup, >> protonmail, and tutanota - those are the only ones that i know of >> which claim to be privacy-respecting, and again, many >> self-host their own email - but it would be disingenuous of me >> (or anyone) to sincerely recommend relying on anyone else's >> computer, for any reason, unless i personally knew and trusted >> the operators of that server >> _______________________________________________ >> Assist mailing list >> Assist at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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