From timothy at eastlincoln.net Sat Apr 7 23:54:44 2018 From: timothy at eastlincoln.net (Tim Magee) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 18:54:44 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Bluetooth Bug Message-ID: I emailed the people over at ThinkPenguin asking if the following card would work with fully free GNU/Linux. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/wireless-n-dual-band-bluetooth-40-m2-ngff-combo-card They said that, "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre has support for everything in our catalog right now I believe except the bluetooth portion of this card (unless the bug has been fixed, which I couldn?t tell you if it has or hasn?t been as I?ve not tested it recently)". Has this bug been fixed yet? Sincerely, Tim Magee From megver83 at hyperbola.info Sun Apr 8 21:12:12 2018 From: megver83 at hyperbola.info (Megver83) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 17:12:12 -0300 Subject: [Assist] Bluetooth Bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a1ab708-6621-93e3-2a0b-78582968dc78@hyperbola.info> El 07/04/18 a las 19:54, Tim Magee escribi?: > I emailed the people over at ThinkPenguin asking if the following card > would work with fully free GNU/Linux. > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/wireless-n-dual-band-bluetooth-40-m2-ngff-combo-card > They said that, "Parabola GNU/Linux-libre has support for everything in > our catalog right now I believe except the bluetooth portion of this > card (unless the bug has been fixed, which I couldn?t tell you if it has > or hasn?t been as I?ve not tested it recently)". > Has this bug been fixed yet? > > Sincerely, > Tim Magee > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > I don't own one of those, but if I was you I'd ask them which version of linux-libre and linx-libre-firmware did they used (or a link to any bug report related to that issue). The recent versions of both packages *might* have fixed that bug. -- ~Megver83 SIP: megver83 at sip.linphone.org XMPP: megver83 at jabjab.de Tox: megver83 at toxme.io GPG: 0x227CA7C556B2BA78 GNUSocial: @megver82 at quitter.cl Diaspora*: megver83 at diasp.org Matrix: @Megver83:matrix.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From muchos7654 at hotmail.com Sat Apr 14 20:17:25 2018 From: muchos7654 at hotmail.com (Juan Perez) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:17:25 +0000 Subject: [Assist] I need your help I speak spanish if you can't help me, please send my letter to someone who can Message-ID: Hola les escribo porque tengo una duda acerca de los documentos los cuales transcribo en mi usb o lapiz de memoria. La gente cuando accidentalmente elimina archivos de su Pc; suele llevar a un t?cnico su Pc para recuperar esos archivos eliminados; pero no solo recupera esos archivos, sino much?simos otros m?s los cuales hab?an sido eliminados hacia ya much?simo tiempo. Osea archivos jpg, png, mp3, mp4, hojas electr?nicas y documentos de texto, etc. Mi preocupaci?n es que alguien entre a mi casa y se robe mi disco duro y extraiga mucha informaci?n que fue eliminada del disco duro. No me preocupan tanto los archivos eliminados que descargo de internet, sino los documentos los cuales transcribo directamente en mi usb o lapiz de memoria. Yo no guardo mis documentos en el disco duro de mi Pc, sino que los guardo directamente en mi usb o lapiz de memoria. Pero todos esos documentos pasan por el disco duro de mi Pc, porque all? est? el software para escribir esos documentos osea Vim, LibreOffice, Microsoft Office, texmaker. A parte de esto, ocurre que tanto Microsoft office y LibreOffice, tienen un buffer en el cual se almacenan los datos de las hojas electr?nicas que fueron abiertas y transcritas; autom?ticamente y sin consentimiento del usuario. Aunque esas hojas no fueron guardadas sino solo abiertas, todas se recuperan con solo pulsar un bot?n. Osea a ese buffer no le importa que se hayan guardado esos documentos, sino solo que se hayan abierto y transcrito. (le mando las im?genes de estos men?s de Libreoffice y Microsoft office). ?Como Podr? evitar que en mi disco duro se queden restos de esos archivos o hojas electr?nicas? ?Usando GNU/Linux o Windows? O, ?c?mo? Agradecer? su pronta respuesta, y si no pudiera ayudarme le agradecer?a que me mandara con la persona que pueda, o me diera el email de esa persona. gracias. [cid:a3911e60-a48d-4537-b125-5bb38a430132] [cid:59d3c245-ceaa-4efd-9d23-8f18ab29ba0c] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Dibujo.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 104018 bytes Desc: Dibujo.JPG URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Osea > archivos jpg, png, mp3, mp4, hojas > electr?nicas y documentos de texto, etc. > Mi preocupaci?n es que alguien entre a mi casa y se robe mi disco duro y > extraiga mucha informaci?n > que fue eliminada del disco duro. No me preocupan tanto los archivos > eliminados que descargo de > internet, sino los documentos los cuales transcribo directamente en mi > usb o lapiz de memoria. Yo no > guardo mis documentos en el disco duro de mi Pc, sino que los guardo > directamente en mi usb o lapiz > de memoria. Pero todos esos documentos pasan por el disco duro de mi Pc, > porque all? est? el software > para escribir esos documentos osea Vim, LibreOffice, Microsoft Office, > texmaker. > A parte de esto, ocurre que tanto Microsoft office y LibreOffice, tienen > un buffer en el cual se > almacenan los datos de las hojas electr?nicas que fueron abiertas y > transcritas; autom?ticamente y sin > consentimiento del usuario. Aunque esas hojas no fueron guardadas sino > solo abiertas, todas se > recuperan con solo pulsar un bot?n. Osea a ese buffer no le importa que > se hayan guardado esos > documentos, sino solo que se hayan abierto y transcrito. (le mando las > im?genes de estos men?s de > Libreoffice y Microsoft office). > ?Como Podr? evitar que en mi disco duro se queden restos de esos > archivos o hojas electr?nicas? > ?Usando GNU/Linux o Windows? O, ?c?mo? > Agradecer? su pronta respuesta, y si no pudiera ayudarme le agradecer?a > que me mandara con la > persona que pueda, o me diera el email de esa persona. > gracias. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > Perd?n, pero en esta lista de correos no se da soporte a software que no sea libre, a excepci?n de que se trate de hacerle ingenier?a inversa o encontrarle un reemplazo libre. Eso de que alguien sea capaz de extraer archivos eliminados en Windows es muy f?cil, si no est? en la papelera entonces est? en una de esas carpetas $RECYCLE o algo as? en el caso de pendrives o HDDs, a mi hace poco me dieron un HDD con archivos que se supone hab?an eliminado pero no, estaban dentro de esa extra?a carpeta t?pica de Windows y dentro de otra que empezaba con $ tambi?n. Aunque en GNU/Linux eso no pasa a menos que t? lo quieras as?, si tu consentimiento es por un tema de seguridad, entonces podr?as mudar de S.O., sin embargo MS Office no est? nativo para otra plataforma que no sea Winbugs u OSX. Independiente de eso, y como dije al principio, aqu? no encontrar?s ayuda para el software privativo, para eso tienes la garant?a y su soporte t?cnico (o la del distribuidor). -- ~Megver83 SIP: megver83 at sip.linphone.org XMPP: megver83 at jabjab.de Tox: megver83 at toxme.io GPG: 0x227CA7C556B2BA78 GNUSocial: @megver82 at quitter.cl Diaspora*: megver83 at diasp.org Matrix: @Megver83:matrix.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 520 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rudolf.dovicin at gmail.com Tue Apr 17 02:26:09 2018 From: rudolf.dovicin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UnVkb2xmIERvdmnEjcOtbg==?=) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:26:09 +0200 Subject: [Assist] Installing packages from PyPI.Python.org Message-ID: Hello, dear supporters/assistants. :-) I try to learn Python programming language. I need to install something like https://PyPI.Python.org/pypi/nested_dict [Because I need dictionary with dictionaries as values and sets as values of inner dictionaries: nested_dict(2, set)] There are several ways, e.g. to whole system (by root) or to virtual (local) environment. etc.: https://Packaging.Python.org/tutorials/ https://Packaging.Python.org/guides/ Can I install by pip as root? Does it not corrupt any pacman's packages? (ArchLinux has pipman-git, pip2arch-git & python-pypi2pkgbuild for conversion, but I have not found any of them in Parabola.) What are pros and cons of the ways? What is recommended way in Parabola? -- Rudolf Dovi??n Matice slovenskej 1260/4-7 957 04 B?novce nad Bebravou 4 SLOVENSKO mailto:Rudolf.Dovicin at Gmail.com (cellular: +421 940 872 846, short messages only) From bill-auger at peers.community Tue Apr 17 03:39:16 2018 From: bill-auger at peers.community (bill-auger) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:39:16 -0400 Subject: [Assist] Installing packages from PyPI.Python.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180416223916.1388d7dc@parabola> generally speaking, it is a bad idea to use multiple package managers - just last week i had such a conflict where a pip package clobbered the files from a parabola package the only sane way to do this is to use pip, rubygems, or whatever never as root but always install packages to your $HOME or even better in the project tree itself - with python for example you build and run the entire project always in a "virtualenv" which ensures that the pip packages to not pollute the system - you should not ever need to be root to install a python package and i would advise strongly against the temptation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So some questions got answers but some questions were ignored or got flames.I hope that you users here fill my questions with your knowledge. Please share it with me :) I understand some degrees of the purpose of Free Software Movement. But it is still obscure.? Question 1.?What do you think that what is the FSM's purpose? And you are more or less concerned in FSM. Question 2.Do you have an own concrete desire which concerns FSM? Why I ask you about these questions is that ?I am a nameless painter. I am also a philosopher. And I have several ESP.I have several purposes as my life works. I have devoted my all to the purposes.?I think that some of those purposes are concerned with FSM deeply. It seems they have the same direction.Naturally, this kind of movements or purposes oppsose powers. Hence just participating in this kind of organizarions means having some degrees of risk, high or low. It needs determination which met the degrees of risk. I have enough powers to oppose the powers. I have been in the front lines a long time. I showed "off" my abilities to the Trisquel forum. Because I was thinking that they are more or less fighting with powers.I thought that these my abilities will help to them. I thought that we could help each other, but it seems all of them do not appreciate that, and there are not much risk.?That state is that they might not care about FSM mostly. ?I am looking forward to your replying.Please excuse my straight expression if you were displeased with it. I thought that the character of mailing list is not suitable for long discussion. So I stated such things first and forecast.If you would like to give a glance at the my abilities, below link would tell you somethings. Thank you for reading my maybe broken English! Sincerely,Masaru Suzuqi https://trisquel.info/en/forum/would-you-mind-helping-my-works -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And you are more or less concerned in FSM. the purpose is simply to encourage computer users to use their own computers for any purpose they choose - as opposed to being limited to what certain softwares are designed allow the user to do - then secondly to create new software where needed to help people accomplish their tasks without limitations or impositions you would probably be well as an introduction to the topic to see some of the readings on the GNU website: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ if you have more questions after that, the libreplanet mailing list would be a good place to meet people https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss On Sun 2018-04-22 06:17:49 AM - msuzuqi at tuta.io wrote: > Question 2.Do you have an own concrete desire which concerns FSM? the main purpose of the parabola operating system is precisely that - parabola is also "Free Culture" in addition to "Free Software" meaning that the artworks and readings are distributed by the same principles of freedom as the software -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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