From GNUtoo at no-log.org  Sat Jan  3 08:21:13 2015
From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:21:13 +0100
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org>
 <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
Message-ID: <20150103092113.580a29db@top-laptop>

On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:40 -0600
Jorge Araya Navarro <elcorreo at deshackra.com> wrote:

> I don't think such thing is even true...
http://www.coreboot.org/Fun_Stuff#BIOS_Restrictions

Denis.
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From GNUtoo at no-log.org  Sat Jan  3 08:23:13 2015
From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:23:13 +0100
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org>
 <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org>
 <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20150103092313.62ce9be3@top-laptop>

On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:25:51 +0000
ingegnue <ingegnue at riseup.net> wrote:

> It depends. Mine, from 2009, gave me no trouble. Newer ones might
> though. Perhaps research will do, or perhaps just try it and return
> it if the card is rejected. Or buy a USB one.
Yes, buying USB cards is strongly recommended if you intend to use it
on a computer that still has a proprietary BIOS/EFI/UEFI/etc...

Denis.
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From GNUtoo at no-log.org  Sat Jan  3 10:07:14 2015
From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 11:07:14 +0100
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <20141229090824.GC31989@libreboot.coova.org>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org>
 <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org>
 <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net>
 <CAOPS0LxZmRRZRL+6G7e4oWzZVBDms810QTOahTptHaXgRcBquA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20141229090824.GC31989@libreboot.coova.org>
Message-ID: <20150103110714.4c09b9a4@top-laptop.homenet.telecomitalia.it>

On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:08:25 +0000
Binh-Khoi Nguyen <khoi at member.fsf.org> wrote:

> I already use a USB one, I was just wondering whether I could replace 
> the Wifi card. I'll do my own research then :)
If you're very good technically you may be able to do it.

There are two approaches:
1) Flashing a patched BIOS: This is very risky: Often the flashing
   utilities are non-free, and they differ from flashrom in what they
   do. So the risk of bricking the laptop is very high.

   Once bricked you have to dissemble most of the laptop, and reflash
   the BIOS chip with an external programmer, you need another
   computer, the flasher, and something like a pomona clip.
   Of course you'd have to look if the requirement above match your
   case, some laptop have different chips formats.

   I tried this approach on my x60 in order to be able to keep using
   my ath9k with the BIOS: I needed it to spot some differences
   between coreboot and the BIOS. It ended up with a brick because
   the proprietary flashing tool was assembling BIOS pieces together,
   and instead I used flashrom's as-is. I recovered from it of course.

2) Making the wifi card give PCI ids that are in the whitelist.
   I looked rapidly at it for someone else's laptop.
   On the internet, many people reported some success with this, but
   with intel wifi chips(sic).
   Now we don't care about intel wifi chips, instead we want to
   use the atheros ones.
   Now I didn't find a way to do it from GNU/Linux.

   Example with a pc-card ath5k that I have available right now:
   > # ethtool -e wlan3
   > Cannot get EEPROM data: Operation not supported

   I can't even read the eeprom data, because the kernel driver doesn't
   support that. Reading and writing the eeprom trough ethtool does work
   with some other wifi drivers. Here what the driver needs:
   static const struct ethtool_ops foo_ethtool_ops = {
     [...]
     .get_eeprom_len = foo_ethtool_get_eeprom_len,
     .get_eeprom = foo_ethtool_get_eeprom, // probably for reading
     .set_eeprom = foo_ethtool_set_eeprom, // probably for writing
   };

   On the 3.18 (retrivied with git grep inside drivers/net/wireless):
   Wifi drivers having the set_eeprom: ipw2200 
   Wifi driver having the get_eeprom: ipw2200 ath9k libertas

   Now I didn't investigate other means:
   2a) I didn't look if some specific eeprom driver was used or could be
   used to do that.
   2b) I didn't try dumping the eeprom, modifying it and writing it
   back with an external flasher.
   3b) Using other internal connectors than the usual mini-pcie
   connector reserved for the wifi card. Maybe extra mini-pci connector
   or internal usb connector could be used to avoid the BIOS whitelist
   issue.
   However you should also consider the antenna: if you succeed
   to connect to the antennas that are in the screen, you should be
   good.

Since having an internal wifi card is very convenient, it may be worth
investigating it more.

Advantages/disadvantages of internal(PCI) and external(USB) cards:
------------------------------------------------------------------
USB wifi cards have more probability to break:
 * You may forget it on the laptop and it can break during
   transportation.
 * If the card is big and that you move with the laptop around in
   buildings or outside, it may break due to a collision with
   something stripping it out of the USB port, and breaking or the
   card, the USB port or both.

Internal cards takes no space outside and usually have a very good
range.
With USB cards:
-> or you choose a small one and it doesn't have a good signal
-> or you choose a big one with a good antenna and you do look strange
   with a big antenna:
   For instance when you are at a bus stop, with a wifi cards and a
   huge antenna, using the shell when trying to download and compile
   some software, and that you listen to some electronic music, people
   look at you very strangely, trying to figure out what you are doing.

However with an USB card, you can know for sure that the wifi is off by
removing the card, it also produces no heat inside the laptop.

Denis.
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From khoi at bknguyen.be  Sat Jan  3 10:15:13 2015
From: khoi at bknguyen.be (Binh-Khoi Nguyen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:15:13 +0000
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <20150103110714.4c09b9a4@top-laptop.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org>
 <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org>
 <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net>
 <CAOPS0LxZmRRZRL+6G7e4oWzZVBDms810QTOahTptHaXgRcBquA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20141229090824.GC31989@libreboot.coova.org>
 <20150103110714.4c09b9a4@top-laptop.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <20150103101513.GA5251@libreboot>

Hey,

Thank you so much for your reply! It is very helpful!

Unfortunately, I'm very bad technically. Fortunately, my main computer 
runs Libreboot with an atheros wifi card, I was just talking about my 
work computer which is connected by cable anyway.

Thanks again and happy new year everyone!

Khoi
On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:07:14AM +0100, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:08:25 +0000
>Binh-Khoi Nguyen <khoi at member.fsf.org> wrote:
>
>> I already use a USB one, I was just wondering whether I could replace
>> the Wifi card. I'll do my own research then :)
>If you're very good technically you may be able to do it.
>
>There are two approaches:
>1) Flashing a patched BIOS: This is very risky: Often the flashing
>   utilities are non-free, and they differ from flashrom in what they
>   do. So the risk of bricking the laptop is very high.
>
>   Once bricked you have to dissemble most of the laptop, and reflash
>   the BIOS chip with an external programmer, you need another
>   computer, the flasher, and something like a pomona clip.
>   Of course you'd have to look if the requirement above match your
>   case, some laptop have different chips formats.
>
>   I tried this approach on my x60 in order to be able to keep using
>   my ath9k with the BIOS: I needed it to spot some differences
>   between coreboot and the BIOS. It ended up with a brick because
>   the proprietary flashing tool was assembling BIOS pieces together,
>   and instead I used flashrom's as-is. I recovered from it of course.
>
>2) Making the wifi card give PCI ids that are in the whitelist.
>   I looked rapidly at it for someone else's laptop.
>   On the internet, many people reported some success with this, but
>   with intel wifi chips(sic).
>   Now we don't care about intel wifi chips, instead we want to
>   use the atheros ones.
>   Now I didn't find a way to do it from GNU/Linux.
>
>   Example with a pc-card ath5k that I have available right now:
>   > # ethtool -e wlan3
>   > Cannot get EEPROM data: Operation not supported
>
>   I can't even read the eeprom data, because the kernel driver doesn't
>   support that. Reading and writing the eeprom trough ethtool does work
>   with some other wifi drivers. Here what the driver needs:
>   static const struct ethtool_ops foo_ethtool_ops = {
>     [...]
>     .get_eeprom_len = foo_ethtool_get_eeprom_len,
>     .get_eeprom = foo_ethtool_get_eeprom, // probably for reading
>     .set_eeprom = foo_ethtool_set_eeprom, // probably for writing
>   };
>
>   On the 3.18 (retrivied with git grep inside drivers/net/wireless):
>   Wifi drivers having the set_eeprom: ipw2200
>   Wifi driver having the get_eeprom: ipw2200 ath9k libertas
>
>   Now I didn't investigate other means:
>   2a) I didn't look if some specific eeprom driver was used or could be
>   used to do that.
>   2b) I didn't try dumping the eeprom, modifying it and writing it
>   back with an external flasher.
>   3b) Using other internal connectors than the usual mini-pcie
>   connector reserved for the wifi card. Maybe extra mini-pci connector
>   or internal usb connector could be used to avoid the BIOS whitelist
>   issue.
>   However you should also consider the antenna: if you succeed
>   to connect to the antennas that are in the screen, you should be
>   good.
>
>Since having an internal wifi card is very convenient, it may be worth
>investigating it more.
>
>Advantages/disadvantages of internal(PCI) and external(USB) cards:
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>USB wifi cards have more probability to break:
> * You may forget it on the laptop and it can break during
>   transportation.
> * If the card is big and that you move with the laptop around in
>   buildings or outside, it may break due to a collision with
>   something stripping it out of the USB port, and breaking or the
>   card, the USB port or both.
>
>Internal cards takes no space outside and usually have a very good
>range.
>With USB cards:
>-> or you choose a small one and it doesn't have a good signal
>-> or you choose a big one with a good antenna and you do look strange
>   with a big antenna:
>   For instance when you are at a bus stop, with a wifi cards and a
>   huge antenna, using the shell when trying to download and compile
>   some software, and that you listen to some electronic music, people
>   look at you very strangely, trying to figure out what you are doing.
>
>However with an USB card, you can know for sure that the wifi is off by
>removing the card, it also produces no heat inside the laptop.
>
>Denis.



-- 
Binh-Khoi NGUYEN
khoi at member.fsf.org
GPG Key: https://bknguyen.be/gpg.html
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From mtjm at mtjm.eu  Sat Jan  3 10:42:43 2015
From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 11:42:43 +0100
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <20150103110714.4c09b9a4@top-laptop.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 (Denis Carikli's message of "Sat, 3 Jan 2015 11:07:14 +0100")
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org>
 <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org>
 <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net>
 <CAOPS0LxZmRRZRL+6G7e4oWzZVBDms810QTOahTptHaXgRcBquA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20141229090824.GC31989@libreboot.coova.org>
 <20150103110714.4c09b9a4@top-laptop.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <87mw60p2l8.fsf@mtjm.eu>

>    2a) I didn't look if some specific eeprom driver was used or could be
>    used to do that.

https://iwleeprom.googlecode.com/svn/branches/atheros/ can read the
EEPROM of an ath9k card,
http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/AthInfo should work for ath5k.
No tool succeeded at writing it and I don't know the EEPROM data layout
used by ath9k cards.

>    2b) I didn't try dumping the eeprom, modifying it and writing it
>    back with an external flasher.

It might be hidden under the RF shield and it might be a very small I2C
chip.  Not as easy as SOIC-8 SPI flash for laptop's boot firmware.

>    3b) Using other internal connectors than the usual mini-pcie
>    connector reserved for the wifi card. Maybe extra mini-pci connector
>    or internal usb connector could be used to avoid the BIOS whitelist
>    issue.

There might be internal USB cards in the miniPCIe form factor.  Some
laptops don't check what is in the second miniPCIe slot, but some have
no PCI there (X60 has one PCI-only slot for wifi and one USB-only for
WWAN).  There might be issues with e.g. the rfkill pin.
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From elcorreo at deshackra.com  Sun Jan  4 18:59:57 2015
From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:59:57 -0600
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <20150103092113.580a29db@top-laptop>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com>
 <20150103092113.580a29db@top-laptop>
Message-ID: <87zj9yz80i.fsf@deshackra.com>

Oh, that changes everything!

Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:40 -0600
> Jorge Araya Navarro <elcorreo at deshackra.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think such thing is even true...
> http://www.coreboot.org/Fun_Stuff#BIOS_Restrictions
>
> Denis.

-- 
Pax et bonum.
Jorge Araya Navarro.
ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
https://es.gravatar.com/shackra

From GNUtoo at no-log.org  Sun Jan  4 20:29:39 2015
From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 21:29:39 +0100
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <CAOPS0LwZrQdSQB3fSVj3ozOqCfvMei9=f0eNF2Ha1fT9hnoBXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com>
 <CAOPS0LwZrQdSQB3fSVj3ozOqCfvMei9=f0eNF2Ha1fT9hnoBXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150104212939.68cbb0bf@top-laptop>

On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 02:34:26 -0600
Isaac David Reyes Gonz?lez <isacdaavid at gmail.com> wrote:
> as far as my knowledge goes, if the driver is non-free then it
> shouldn't even exist in Linux-libre. If the chip requires the kernel
> to load nonfree firmware on it then the whole card is useless under
> Linux-libre, even if the driver is free.
How would you know that it requires a non-free firmware?
I'm not aware of any proprietary drivers inside the official linux
kernel.

However some of theses free drivers requires a non-free firmware to
make the hardware work. And yes, parabola and linux-libre doesn't
remove theses drivers and ship them.

How would you know without making mistakes, which driver work and which
doesn't work without a non-free firmware.

That might sound easy at first, a lot of people know that the intel
wireless drivers don't work without the firmware.

But where do you actually draw the line when many devices do work, out
of the box, with linux-libre, without loading the non-free
firmware(and the official linux kernel tries to load the firmware).

Many ethernet network cards drivers complains about the lack of free
firmware, yet they seem to works flawlessly.

How about the radeon GPU? some do work, some don't.

The bottom line is that in many cases we need to test on real hardware
to really know.

Denis.
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From GNUtoo at no-log.org  Sun Jan  4 20:35:41 2015
From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 21:35:41 +0100
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150104213541.19761527@top-laptop>

On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:58:05 -0600
Rill <starbasecafe at gmail.com> wrote:

> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose
> exceptions or to use my laptop away from  a wired internet connection?
The issue with exception is that they're "not well supported":
* You'll have to handle the kernel and its update, it's not convenient
  at all.
* You probably don't know all the outcomes of your choice:
  -> What can the wifi firmware really do? could it modify what's on
  your laptop RAM(DMA)?
  -> What are the global(for everybody, not just for you) consequences
  for freedom?

In my experience, buying the right hardware is way less painful. For
instance here if you can find a cheap USB wifi card that is supported
by the ath9k_htc driver and that suits you well, it would be way better
for you.

Then in order to avoid NetworkManager confusion and so on, just
blacklist the intel wifi driver module.

Denis.
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From starbasecafe at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 21:25:02 2015
From: starbasecafe at gmail.com (Rill)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:25:02 -0600
Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers
In-Reply-To: <20150104213541.19761527@top-laptop>
References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <20150104213541.19761527@top-laptop>
Message-ID: <20150104212502.GA20689@libre>

I appreciate everyone chiming in to explain the consequences to me. I have
purchased an appropriate usb wireless dongle and everything is working well
for me. in fact, I am using it right now to send this message.

Rill
 On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:58:05 -0600
> Rill <starbasecafe at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose
> > exceptions or to use my laptop away from  a wired internet connection?
> The issue with exception is that they're "not well supported":
> * You'll have to handle the kernel and its update, it's not convenient
>   at all.
> * You probably don't know all the outcomes of your choice:
>   -> What can the wifi firmware really do? could it modify what's on
>   your laptop RAM(DMA)?
>   -> What are the global(for everybody, not just for you) consequences
>   for freedom?
> 
> In my experience, buying the right hardware is way less painful. For
> instance here if you can find a cheap USB wifi card that is supported
> by the ath9k_htc driver and that suits you well, it would be way better
> for you.
> 
> Then in order to avoid NetworkManager confusion and so on, just
> blacklist the intel wifi driver module.
> 
> Denis.



From list at sysfu.com  Sun Jan 18 23:27:03 2015
From: list at sysfu.com (Seth)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:27:03 -0800
Subject: [Assist] 'could not be locally signed' error when trying to install
 parabola keyring
Message-ID: <op.xsol3du3bgbjo9@work-pc.lan>

Trying to convert an Arch system to Parabola and getting the error pasted  
below when trying to install the parabola-keyring.

Any troubleshooting ideas?

/etc/pacman.conf has:
SigLevel    =  Never

when performing the operation.

# pacman -U  
https://www.parabola.nu/packages/libre/any/parabola-keyring/download/
warning: database file for 'libre' does not exist
  alpmtmp.k9uAE8                                                               
294.8 KiB   415K/s 00:01  
[############################################################] 100%
loading packages...
warning: parabola-keyring-20140920-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (1) parabola-keyring-20140920-1

Total Installed Size:  0.41 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:      0.00 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in  
keyring                                                                         
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking package  
integrity                                                                       
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) loading package  
files                                                                            
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file  
conflicts                                                                      
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk  
space                                                                    
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) reinstalling  
parabola-keyring                                                                    
[############################################################] 100%
==> Appending keys from parabola.gpg...
==> Locally signing trusted keys in keyring...
   -> Locally signing key 2DFFE834A07FC9A06F4AAAF444BC7D7F49B9A5A4...
==> ERROR: 2DFFE834A07FC9A06F4AAAF444BC7D7F49B9A5A4 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key E511343A987CB73D883EFB7E5CECF9F86574BEF2...
==> ERROR: E511343A987CB73D883EFB7E5CECF9F86574BEF2 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 560B3DEC2F13E822ACED475B2EC52AC76AEEB6A0...
==> ERROR: 560B3DEC2F13E822ACED475B2EC52AC76AEEB6A0 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 1B8C5E87702444D3D825CC8086ED62396D5DBA58...
==> ERROR: 1B8C5E87702444D3D825CC8086ED62396D5DBA58 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 6DC925A471AACC8B4EF9F9AEBDAD9605F06AA3BB...
==> ERROR: 6DC925A471AACC8B4EF9F9AEBDAD9605F06AA3BB could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key E29BA653739EB52E63722FDF946D344D6467A2AC...
==> ERROR: E29BA653739EB52E63722FDF946D344D6467A2AC could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key DC7E500D8D4407641EA82893476DC656262FB1AE...
==> ERROR: DC7E500D8D4407641EA82893476DC656262FB1AE could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 49F707A1CB366C580E625B3C456032D717A4CD9C...
   -> Locally signing key B70107A3E6A744682A22208D7D19D1AFDD312BBE...
==> ERROR: B70107A3E6A744682A22208D7D19D1AFDD312BBE could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key BC88635CDC4B0920A4302E3BA8153DEAFCED02BB...
==> ERROR: BC88635CDC4B0920A4302E3BA8153DEAFCED02BB could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 66490C131610180BFD632AB3C6DA3E731B754FD2...
==> ERROR: 66490C131610180BFD632AB3C6DA3E731B754FD2 could not be locally  
signed.
==> ERROR: 66490C131610180BFD632AB3C6DA3E731B754FD2 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 684D54A189305A9CC95446D36B888913DDB59515...
==> ERROR: 684D54A189305A9CC95446D36B888913DDB59515 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 99195DD3BB6FE10A2F36ED8445698744D4FFBFC9...
==> ERROR: 99195DD3BB6FE10A2F36ED8445698744D4FFBFC9 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 5BDCF80CFCE5298696B88FF3B2A551203712CD90...
==> ERROR: 5BDCF80CFCE5298696B88FF3B2A551203712CD90 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key C92BAA713B8D53D3CAE63FC9E6974752F9704456...
==> ERROR: C92BAA713B8D53D3CAE63FC9E6974752F9704456 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 8C3F8ABD30DF2AFAC6C039A45906AB5E9AAD00E5...
==> ERROR: 8C3F8ABD30DF2AFAC6C039A45906AB5E9AAD00E5 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 69639F93426CF7CF074E9DF5D5E9DD655D2AE3BC...
==> ERROR: 69639F93426CF7CF074E9DF5D5E9DD655D2AE3BC could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 1E81576B94D05ED2615140BC8F564D05CBDA985E...
==> ERROR: 1E81576B94D05ED2615140BC8F564D05CBDA985E could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key D3EAD7F9D076EB9AF650149DA170D6A0B669E21A...
==> ERROR: D3EAD7F9D076EB9AF650149DA170D6A0B669E21A could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 8BD5A323D71FE444D5FDA1FF24BE374E7B44ABF9...
==> ERROR: 8BD5A323D71FE444D5FDA1FF24BE374E7B44ABF9 could not be locally  
signed.
error: command failed to execute correctly

From list at sysfu.com  Mon Jan 19 20:02:22 2015
From: list at sysfu.com (Seth)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:02:22 -0800
Subject: [Assist] 'could not be locally signed' error when trying to
 install parabola keyring
Message-ID: <op.xsp698sebgbjo9@work-pc.lan>

On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:45:40 -0800, ingegnue <ingegnue at riseup.net> wrote:

> I actually ran into this problem, often times what I have to do is:
>
> 1) check that I overwrote the old mirrorlist with the new one obtained  
> from parabola site
> 2) then make sure pacman-key is initialized (sometimes it fails at  
> startup): pacman-key --init
> 3) pacman -Sy parabola-keyring
> 4) pacman-key --populate parabola
> 5) pacman-key --refresh-keys

I tried again after rolling back to an unmodified Arch snapshot


vim /etc/pacman.conf  # change siglevel none
pacman -U  
https://www.parabola.nu/packages/libre/any/parabola-keyring/download/
## same error 'could not be locally signed'
pacman -U  
https://www.parabola.nu/packages/libre/any/pacman-mirrorlist/download/

## verified /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist had parabola mirrors listed in it

## add libre repo
vim /etc/pacman.conf ##
## [libre]
## Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

## try troubleshooting steps in email and it fails again.

pacman-key --init
pacman -Sy parabola-keyring
:: Synchronizing package databases...
  libre is up to date
  core is up to date
  extra is up to date
  community is up to date
warning: parabola-keyring-20140920-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (1) parabola-keyring-20140920-1

Total Installed Size:  0.41 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:      0.00 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in  
keyring                                                                         
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking package  
integrity                                                                       
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) loading package  
files                                                                            
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file  
conflicts                                                                      
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk  
space                                                                    
[############################################################] 100%
(1/1) reinstalling  
parabola-keyring                                                                    
[############################################################] 100%
==> Appending keys from parabola.gpg...
==> Locally signing trusted keys in keyring...
   -> Locally signing key 2DFFE834A07FC9A06F4AAAF444BC7D7F49B9A5A4...
==> ERROR: 2DFFE834A07FC9A06F4AAAF444BC7D7F49B9A5A4 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key E511343A987CB73D883EFB7E5CECF9F86574BEF2...
==> ERROR: E511343A987CB73D883EFB7E5CECF9F86574BEF2 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 560B3DEC2F13E822ACED475B2EC52AC76AEEB6A0...
==> ERROR: 560B3DEC2F13E822ACED475B2EC52AC76AEEB6A0 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 1B8C5E87702444D3D825CC8086ED62396D5DBA58...
==> ERROR: 1B8C5E87702444D3D825CC8086ED62396D5DBA58 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 6DC925A471AACC8B4EF9F9AEBDAD9605F06AA3BB...
==> ERROR: 6DC925A471AACC8B4EF9F9AEBDAD9605F06AA3BB could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key E29BA653739EB52E63722FDF946D344D6467A2AC...
==> ERROR: E29BA653739EB52E63722FDF946D344D6467A2AC could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key DC7E500D8D4407641EA82893476DC656262FB1AE...
==> ERROR: DC7E500D8D4407641EA82893476DC656262FB1AE could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 49F707A1CB366C580E625B3C456032D717A4CD9C...
   -> Locally signing key B70107A3E6A744682A22208D7D19D1AFDD312BBE...
==> ERROR: B70107A3E6A744682A22208D7D19D1AFDD312BBE could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key BC88635CDC4B0920A4302E3BA8153DEAFCED02BB...
==> ERROR: BC88635CDC4B0920A4302E3BA8153DEAFCED02BB could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 66490C131610180BFD632AB3C6DA3E731B754FD2...
==> ERROR: 66490C131610180BFD632AB3C6DA3E731B754FD2 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 684D54A189305A9CC95446D36B888913DDB59515...
==> ERROR: 684D54A189305A9CC95446D36B888913DDB59515 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 99195DD3BB6FE10A2F36ED8445698744D4FFBFC9...
==> ERROR: 99195DD3BB6FE10A2F36ED8445698744D4FFBFC9 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 5BDCF80CFCE5298696B88FF3B2A551203712CD90...
==> ERROR: 5BDCF80CFCE5298696B88FF3B2A551203712CD90 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key C92BAA713B8D53D3CAE63FC9E6974752F9704456...
==> ERROR: C92BAA713B8D53D3CAE63FC9E6974752F9704456 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 8C3F8ABD30DF2AFAC6C039A45906AB5E9AAD00E5...
==> ERROR: 8C3F8ABD30DF2AFAC6C039A45906AB5E9AAD00E5 could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 69639F93426CF7CF074E9DF5D5E9DD655D2AE3BC...
==> ERROR: 69639F93426CF7CF074E9DF5D5E9DD655D2AE3BC could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 1E81576B94D05ED2615140BC8F564D05CBDA985E...
==> ERROR: 1E81576B94D05ED2615140BC8F564D05CBDA985E could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key D3EAD7F9D076EB9AF650149DA170D6A0B669E21A...
==> ERROR: D3EAD7F9D076EB9AF650149DA170D6A0B669E21A could not be locally  
signed.
   -> Locally signing key 8BD5A323D71FE444D5FDA1FF24BE374E7B44ABF9...
==> ERROR: 8BD5A323D71FE444D5FDA1FF24BE374E7B44ABF9 could not be locally  
signed.
error: command failed to execute correctly

From list at sysfu.com  Mon Jan 19 21:56:24 2015
From: list at sysfu.com (Seth)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:56:24 -0800
Subject: [Assist] 'could not be locally signed' error when trying to
 install parabola keyring
In-Reply-To: <BCA0A812-48C9-4333-A1EC-05056766B88E@riseup.net>
References: <op.xsp698sebgbjo9@work-pc.lan>
 <BCA0A812-48C9-4333-A1EC-05056766B88E@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <op.xsqckanjbgbjo9@work-pc.lan>

On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:06:30 -0800, ingegnue <ingegnue at riseup.net> wrote:

> That is as I expected -- it should resolve after you do pacman-key  
> --populate parabola and pacman-key --refresh-keys. Did you try those two  
> steps?
>
> After you do those two, what is the output of pacman -Sy  
> parabola-keyring?

I had aborted the process after running "pacman -Sy parabola-keyring" and  
getting the error again.

The key to resolving was to continue in spite of the errors and run both  
of these commands.

pacman-key  --populate parabola
pacman-key --refresh-keys

Thank you for your help.

From ingegnue at riseup.net  Mon Jan 19 22:18:47 2015
From: ingegnue at riseup.net (ingegnue)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:18:47 +0000
Subject: [Assist] 'could not be locally signed' error when trying to
	install parabola keyring
In-Reply-To: <op.xsqckanjbgbjo9@work-pc.lan>
References: <op.xsp698sebgbjo9@work-pc.lan>
 <BCA0A812-48C9-4333-A1EC-05056766B88E@riseup.net>
 <op.xsqckanjbgbjo9@work-pc.lan>
Message-ID: <7E463834-F16C-4F83-82A9-C287E1336AC4@riseup.net>

Great! :) You're welcome! (And welcome to the community!)

(Oops, I keep forgetting to hit reply-all..)

On January 19, 2015 4:56:24 PM EST, Seth <list at sysfu.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:06:30 -0800, ingegnue <ingegnue at riseup.net>
>wrote:
>
>> That is as I expected -- it should resolve after you do pacman-key  
>> --populate parabola and pacman-key --refresh-keys. Did you try those
>two  
>> steps?
>>
>> After you do those two, what is the output of pacman -Sy  
>> parabola-keyring?
>
>I had aborted the process after running "pacman -Sy parabola-keyring"
>and  
>getting the error again.
>
>The key to resolving was to continue in spite of the errors and run
>both  
>of these commands.
>
>pacman-key  --populate parabola
>pacman-key --refresh-keys
>
>Thank you for your help.


From pietro.ferrera at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 14:26:08 2015
From: pietro.ferrera at gmail.com (Pietro Ferrera)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:26:08 +0100
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Dell XPS 13 9333
Message-ID: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,
I was wondering if I could install Parabola to my laptop and have it
fully working. (I am especially worried about my wireless connection,
since i have an intel wireless card)

I'll attach the output of "sudo lshw" in case it's needed

Thank you in advance,
Pietro
-------------- next part --------------
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    product: XPS13 9333 (060A)
    vendor: Dell Inc.
    version: 0.1
    serial: 519BPY1
    width: 64 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7 vsyscall32
    configuration: administrator_password=unknown boot=normal chassis=portable family=Shark Bay System frontpanel_password=unknown keyboard_password=unknown power-on_password=unknown sku=060A uuid=44454C4C-3100-1039-8042-B5C04F505931
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 0GFTRT
       vendor: Dell Inc.
       physical id: 0
       version: A00
       serial: .519BPY1.CN486433CD0189.
       slot: Part Component
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: Core i7 (To Be Filled By O.E.M.)
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 0
          bus info: cpu at 0
          version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4500U CPU @ 1.80GHz
          serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
          slot: CPU Socket - U3E1
          size: 1799MHz
          capacity: 3GHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 100MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm arat epb pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt cpufreq
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=4
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 2
             slot: L1-Cache
             size: 32KiB
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             capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back instruction
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 3
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             capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back unified
        *-cache:2
             description: L3 cache
             physical id: 4
             slot: L3-Cache
             size: 4MiB
             capacity: 4MiB
             capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back unified
     *-cache
          description: L1 cache
          physical id: 1
          slot: L1-Cache
          size: 32KiB
          capacity: 32KiB
          capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back data
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 5
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 8GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0.6 ns)
             product: H5TC8G63AMR-PBR
             vendor: Hynix/Hyundai
             physical id: 0
             serial: 00000000
             slot: ChannelA-DIMM0
             size: 4GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 1600MHz (0.6ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0.6 ns)
             product: H5TC8G63AMR-PBR
             vendor: Hynix/Hyundai
             physical id: 1
             serial: 00000000
             slot: ChannelB-DIMM0
             size: 4GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 1600MHz (0.6ns)
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: Dell Inc.
          physical id: d
          version: A02
          date: 12/11/2013
          size: 128KiB
          capacity: 6592KiB
          capabilities: pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot smartbattery biosbootspecification netboot
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci at 0000:00:00.0
          version: 09
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
        *-display
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:02.0
             version: 09
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:42 memory:f0000000-f03fffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:3000(size=64)
        *-multimedia:0
             description: Audio device
             product: Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 3
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:03.0
             version: 09
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:45 memory:f0510000-f0513fff
        *-usb
             description: USB controller
             product: 8 Series USB xHCI HC
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 14
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:14.0
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi xhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:41 memory:f0500000-f050ffff
           *-usbhost:0
                product: xHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64 xhci_hcd
                physical id: 0
                bus info: usb at 2
                logical name: usb2
                version: 3.17
                capabilities: usb-3.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=4 speed=5000Mbit/s
           *-usbhost:1
                product: xHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64 xhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb at 1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 3.17
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=9 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:0
                   description: Human interface device
                   product: Synaptics Large Touch Screen
                   vendor: SYNAPTICS
                   physical id: 3
                   bus info: usb at 1:3
                   version: 0.01
                   capabilities: usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=144mA speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb:1
                   description: Video
                   product: Integrated_Webcam_HD
                   vendor: CN0Y2TKG724873A4A4DYA00
                   physical id: 5
                   bus info: usb at 1:5
                   version: 39.02
                   serial: 200901010001
                   capabilities: usb-2.01
                   configuration: driver=uvcvideo maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:2
                   description: Bluetooth wireless interface
                   vendor: Intel Corp.
                   physical id: 6
                   bus info: usb at 1:6
                   version: 0.01
                   capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=btusb maxpower=100mA speed=12Mbit/s
        *-communication
             description: Communication controller
             product: 8 Series HECI #0
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 16
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:16.0
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=mei_me latency=0
             resources: irq:43 memory:f0519000-f051901f
        *-multimedia:1
             description: Audio device
             product: 8 Series HD Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1b
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:1b.0
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:44 memory:f0514000-f0517fff
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:1c.0
             version: e4
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:16
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c.2
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:1c.2
             version: e4
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:18 memory:f0400000-f04fffff
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                description: Wireless interface
                product: Wireless 7260
                vendor: Intel Corporation
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci at 0000:02:00.0
                logical name: wlp2s0
                version: 6b
                serial: 5c:51:4f:71:4e:6d
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
                configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64 firmware=25.222.9.0 ip=131.114.104.77 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
                resources: irq:46 memory:f0400000-f0401fff
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 8 Series LPC Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:1f.0
             version: 04
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
             resources: irq:0
        *-storage
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             product: 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode]
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.2
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:1f.2
             version: 04
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
             resources: irq:40 ioport:3088(size=8) ioport:3094(size=4) ioport:3080(size=8) ioport:3090(size=4) ioport:3060(size=32) memory:f051c000-f051c7ff
        *-serial UNCLAIMED
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             product: 8 Series SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci at 0000:00:1f.3
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: latency=0
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                bus info: scsi at 2:0.0.0,1
                logical name: /dev/sda1
                logical name: /boot
                version: 1.0
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                size: 500MiB
                capacity: 500MiB
                capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes huge_files dir_nlink extents ext4 ext2 initialized
                configuration: created=2014-12-11 22:09:44 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/boot modified=2015-01-19 21:40:54 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,seclabel,relatime,data=ordered mounted=2015-01-19 21:40:54 state=mounted
           *-volume:1
                description: Linux LVM Physical Volume partition
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi at 2:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sda2
                serial: IM9C50-fTlo-FYMu-CAbs-8MKI-7xGH-vHzHhn
                size: 237GiB
                capacity: 237GiB
                capabilities: primary multi lvm2
  *-battery
       product: DELL
       vendor: SDI
       physical id: 1
       version: 2008
       serial: 1.0
       slot: Rear
       capacity: 55500mWh
       configuration: voltage=7.5V


From list at sysfu.com  Tue Jan 20 17:33:59 2015
From: list at sysfu.com (Seth)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:33:59 -0800
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Dell XPS 13 9333
In-Reply-To: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.xsru2xz1bgbjo9@work-pc.lan>

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:26:08 -0800, Pietro Ferrera  
<pietro.ferrera at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys,
> I was wondering if I could install Parabola to my laptop and have it
> fully working. (I am especially worried about my wireless connection,
> since i have an intel wireless card)
>
> I'll attach the output of "sudo lshw" in case it's needed

Have you already looked up your card in these three resources mentioned in  
the wiki?

https://wiki.parabola.nu/Wireless_Setup#Discover_if_the_card_is_supported

From elcorreo at deshackra.com  Wed Jan 21 04:04:17 2015
From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:04:17 -0600
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Dell XPS 13 9333
In-Reply-To: <op.xsru2xz1bgbjo9@work-pc.lan>
References: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>
 <op.xsru2xz1bgbjo9@work-pc.lan>
Message-ID: <873874bwzi.fsf@abril.charola>


I would rather download Trisquel and run it as a live session and test my hardware, I call it the ?easy way?

Seth writes:

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:26:08 -0800, Pietro Ferrera  
> <pietro.ferrera at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I was wondering if I could install Parabola to my laptop and have it
>> fully working. (I am especially worried about my wireless connection,
>> since i have an intel wireless card)
>>
>> I'll attach the output of "sudo lshw" in case it's needed
>
> Have you already looked up your card in these three resources mentioned in  
> the wiki?
>
> https://wiki.parabola.nu/Wireless_Setup#Discover_if_the_card_is_supported
> _______________________________________________
> Assist mailing list
> Assist at lists.parabola.nu
> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist

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ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
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From GNUtoo at no-log.org  Wed Jan 21 20:53:09 2015
From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:53:09 +0100
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Dell XPS 13 9333
In-Reply-To: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150121215309.38014d08@top-laptop>

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:26:08 +0100
Pietro Ferrera <pietro.ferrera at gmail.com> wrote:
> description: VGA compatible controller
> product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
> vendor: Intel Corporation
Intel GPU, should work and have 3D acceleration.

> product: 8 Series USB xHCI HC
> product: xHCI Host Controller
> product: Synaptics Large Touch Screen
> product: Integrated_Webcam_HD
> description: Bluetooth wireless interface
> product: 8 Series HD Audio Controller
You should test all that.

> description: Communication controller
That's the management engine[1].

> driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64
> firmware=25.222.9.0 ip=131.114.104.77 latency=0 link=yes
Intel wifi card. Get an USB wifi card that works without a non-free
firmware.

References:
-----------
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology#Management_Engine

Denis.
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From emulatorman at riseup.net  Thu Jan 22 11:54:46 2015
From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:54:46 -0200
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Dell XPS 13 9333
In-Reply-To: <20150121215309.38014d08@top-laptop>
References: <CAF+HqEUsHyjt8a5=n2kYMN8UHvbK_ZY6EJG1qs=5C_VLWWMjWw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150121215309.38014d08@top-laptop>
Message-ID: <54C0E506.3030405@riseup.net>

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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:26:08 +0100 Pietro Ferrera
> <pietro.ferrera at gmail.com> wrote:
>> driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64 
>> firmware=25.222.9.0 ip=131.114.104.77 latency=0 link=yes
> Intel wifi card. Get an USB wifi card that works without a
> non-free firmware.
> 

There are a list about USB wifi cards that works without nonfree
firmware to see [0][1]

[0]:https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Rtl8187#Supported_modes
[1]:https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ath9k_htc#Supported_modes
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From khoi at bknguyen.be  Tue Jan 27 12:10:42 2015
From: khoi at bknguyen.be (Binh-Khoi Nguyen)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:10:42 +0000
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
Message-ID: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>

Hey,

I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to 
install Parabola on it.

The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a 
very long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.

Thanks for your help,

-- 
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khoi at member.fsf.org
b.nguyen12 at imperial.ac.uk
GPG Key: https://bknguyen.be/gpg.html

From ingegnue at riseup.net  Tue Jan 27 15:55:32 2015
From: ingegnue at riseup.net (ingegnue)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:55:32 +0000
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
In-Reply-To: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
References: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
Message-ID: <AD191F3D-7803-44D8-AE2A-119EE4400F55@riseup.net>



On January 27, 2015 7:10:42 AM EST, Binh-Khoi Nguyen <khoi at bknguyen.be> wrote:
>Hey,
>
>I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to 
>install Parabola on it.
>
>The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a 
>very long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.
>
>Thanks for your help,

A look at the specs says the Nanonote's CPU has an Ingenic XBurst Jz4720?which is compatible with MIPS32, according to the Ingenic wiki. Parabola has support for MIPS64, but not MIPS32 unfortunately. I don't know too much about MIPS but give it a try and it doesn't work, perhaps you can make a port? Some folks have been working on an ARM port so it is probably doable. Supporting the Nanonote seems like a cool idea to me...


From zach at zachwick.com  Tue Jan 27 16:09:34 2015
From: zach at zachwick.com (zach wick)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:09:34 -0500
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
In-Reply-To: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
References: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
Message-ID: <20150127160934.GA2975@Argo.local>

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:10:42PM +0000, Binh-Khoi Nguyen wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to install
> Parabola on it.
> 
> The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a very
> long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.
> 

I have a Ben Nanonote that I run Debian on without any issues. I also
know that LibreCMC [0] will run on the Nanonote.

If your intention with running Parabola on the Nanonote is a
completely free computing environment, then LibreCMC will satisfy that
requirement. LibreCMC is even endorsed by the Free Software Foundation
as a Free GNU/Linux distro.

[0] http://librecmc.org

-zach
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From khoi at bknguyen.be  Tue Jan 27 17:53:40 2015
From: khoi at bknguyen.be (Binh-Khoi Nguyen)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:53:40 +0000
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
In-Reply-To: <20150127160934.GA2975@Argo.local>
References: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
 <20150127160934.GA2975@Argo.local>
Message-ID: <20150127175340.GB12914@libreboot.home>

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. Basically I just want a free distribution (or 
Debian), and the more convenient the better.

I tried installing Debian once but I couldn't really upgrade to recent 
software (I think I had a problem when I did a dist-upgrade).

Does LibreCMC has a package management system? I basically just want a 
recent version of vim, vifm, mutt, and calcurse.

Thanks!

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:09:34AM -0500, zach wick wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:10:42PM +0000, Binh-Khoi Nguyen wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to install
>> Parabola on it.
>>
>> The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a very
>> long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.
>>
>
>I have a Ben Nanonote that I run Debian on without any issues. I also
>know that LibreCMC [0] will run on the Nanonote.
>
>If your intention with running Parabola on the Nanonote is a
>completely free computing environment, then LibreCMC will satisfy that
>requirement. LibreCMC is even endorsed by the Free Software Foundation
>as a Free GNU/Linux distro.
>
>[0] http://librecmc.org
>
>-zach



-- 
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khoi at member.fsf.org
b.nguyen12 at imperial.ac.uk
GPG Key: https://bknguyen.be/gpg.html

From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 27 17:58:06 2015
From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:58:06 -0500
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
In-Reply-To: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
References: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
Message-ID: <87y4oo5cnl.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>

At Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:10:42 +0000,
Binh-Khoi Nguyen wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to
> install Parabola on it.

The Nanonote is MIPS32; Parabola formerly had support for MIPS64
little endian, but we don't even support that anymore (though the
repos are still there, should anyone be interested).

> The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a
> very long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.

As Zach noted, libreCMC supports the Nanonote.  libreCMC is roughly
the same project as LibreWRT, but different people.  Politics!  Both
are based on OpenWRT, and are both FSF-endorsed.

--
Happy hacking,
~ Luke Shumaker

From elcorreo at deshackra.com  Tue Jan 27 19:25:51 2015
From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:25:51 -0600
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
In-Reply-To: <87y4oo5cnl.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>
References: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
 <87y4oo5cnl.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8761bs9gao.fsf@abril.charola>


Interesting, running an operating system inside a router would allow me to block pornographic websites or do a
fine grain filtering by keywords, with the correct software, right?

Luke Shumaker writes:

> At Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:10:42 +0000,
> Binh-Khoi Nguyen wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to
>> install Parabola on it.
>
> The Nanonote is MIPS32; Parabola formerly had support for MIPS64
> little endian, but we don't even support that anymore (though the
> repos are still there, should anyone be interested).
>
>> The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a
>> very long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.
>
> As Zach noted, libreCMC supports the Nanonote.  libreCMC is roughly
> the same project as LibreWRT, but different people.  Politics!  Both
> are based on OpenWRT, and are both FSF-endorsed.

-- 
Pax et bonum.
Jorge Araya Navarro.
ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
https://es.gravatar.com/shackra

From khoi at bknguyen.be  Sat Jan 31 14:50:17 2015
From: khoi at bknguyen.be (Binh-Khoi Nguyen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:50:17 +0000
Subject: [Assist] Parabola on Ben Nanonote?
In-Reply-To: <AD191F3D-7803-44D8-AE2A-119EE4400F55@riseup.net>
References: <20150127121042.GA17011@libreboot.home>
 <AD191F3D-7803-44D8-AE2A-119EE4400F55@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20150131145016.GD13937@libreboot>

Hi!

Thanks for your reply!

I don't know how to port Parabola but I'm willing to learn! I was 
thinking that I wanted to try to start contributing a bit but didn't 
know where to start. Is there something that I could read about it?

Khoi

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 03:55:32PM +0000, ingegnue wrote:
>
>
>On January 27, 2015 7:10:42 AM EST, Binh-Khoi Nguyen <khoi at bknguyen.be> wrote:
>>Hey,
>>
>>I was wondering if anyone had a Ben Nanonote and if it's possible to
>>install Parabola on it.
>>
>>The people at LibreWRT told me that LibreWRT hadn't been updated for a
>>very long time and that it wasn't recommended for security reasons.
>>
>>Thanks for your help,
>
>A look at the specs says the Nanonote's CPU has an Ingenic XBurst Jz4720?which is compatible with MIPS32, according to the Ingenic wiki. Parabola has support for MIPS64, but not MIPS32 unfortunately. I don't know too much about MIPS but give it a try and it doesn't work, perhaps you can make a port? Some folks have been working on an ARM port so it is probably doable. Supporting the Nanonote seems like a cool idea to me...
>
>_______________________________________________
>Assist mailing list
>Assist at lists.parabola.nu
>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist

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