From khoi at member.fsf.org Mon Dec 1 23:13:57 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Assist] GnuPG 2.1 and Gnome Keyring Message-ID: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> Hey, I used to use Gnome Keyring as a GnuPG agent but this doesn't work anymore since the last GnuPG update. Does anyone have any suggestion so that I don't have to enter my password that often? Thanks for your help, Khoi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Tue Dec 2 00:01:59 2014 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 22:01:59 -0200 Subject: [Assist] GnuPG 2.1 and Gnome Keyring In-Reply-To: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> References: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> Message-ID: <547D0177.30909@riseup.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 12/01/2014 09:13 PM, khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: > Hey, > > I used to use Gnome Keyring as a GnuPG agent but this doesn't work > anymore since the last GnuPG update. > > Does anyone have any suggestion so that I don't have to enter my > password that often? Both packages (gnome-keyring and gnupg) comes from Arch, so i suggest to you report it to Arch Bugtracker [0] [0]:https://bugs.archlinux.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUfQFqAAoJEOaXR1L5cERWqr8QAKY9tk+gU7Nm/lWX+z7trFFM 3Qjqm/ynT9Di1ucIVlIEREusx6/ejToQ8Hhv35aA6Z2YN7IoEbEEf90fmxmbF8IK BC5/mjdwsVlGXwlsSMsLPdvEAxUNOZIlH0/E9yims9jh0tjbiByZh+lmka/1dhg3 cYwCoZrQbEP/8f2O2JT2Gq2iSfLvxJL8n718WFaSZzKpM9TlOTQDf+Vw3D0FMNPl EWEDV4CN8J0vXRjflHW9K0+WAjGViXZ+86Tb0iA0zd4VjQbR7/EO+SUrgva1KOHf QyrBGWc+IhtLq1s8kEYZuQXWUKYinm12i2VLZ+VY3u6KWZpHikPMIw57u4Rd9gca i2qDFSNUNRPie7I6ehR0PfsAuAjuJdZdMvm9qzpbNsR5pJHABP4cJG+1qNUOUwtb IeqemAPzEKfK9TmIR7LRu5oco8MKgkBK74o53eNF24PW5npj/ywlQT8xCt2mRsJf qol0Xhvc3gR/lDLEQhA4ETWZTByf837I1eBa1FniaCyTpkmPnf4ZkISPCLndQtpx BzMg6xmhlerDWglVu4ii0D6qaRruk69JSYoK0Jv80+ygnlXHDFUpn6WKU9XOw3rl QfB9RK2M1hwp7vCIicWajktrlLHL8wHzWay0R+onVoJjlM7vpu8NiQgkl6VE4UNF KpDDoa8EWZfE+ZWjHoXC =ONHR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From khoi at member.fsf.org Tue Dec 2 03:26:12 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 03:26:12 +0000 Subject: [Assist] GnuPG 2.1 and Gnome Keyring In-Reply-To: <547D0177.30909@riseup.net> References: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <547D0177.30909@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20141202032612.GA1106@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> Hi, Thanks for your reply. It is not a bug. The new version ignores GPG_AGENT_INFO, so according to the Arch Wiki, Gnome Keyring can no longer be used as a GPG Agent. I was just wondering if other people were in a similar situation and whether or not they have found a way to do that differently. But you are right, maybe I should ask on the Arch Linux forums. Best, Khoi On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 10:01:59PM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >On 12/01/2014 09:13 PM, khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I used to use Gnome Keyring as a GnuPG agent but this doesn't work >> anymore since the last GnuPG update. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestion so that I don't have to enter my >> password that often? > >Both packages (gnome-keyring and gnupg) comes from Arch, so i suggest >to you report it to Arch Bugtracker [0] > >[0]:https://bugs.archlinux.org/ >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From GNUtoo at no-log.org Tue Dec 2 05:59:03 2014 From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 06:59:03 +0100 Subject: [Assist] {ssh,gpg} agents Was: GnuPG 2.1 and Gnome Keyring In-Reply-To: <20141202032612.GA1106@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> References: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <547D0177.30909@riseup.net> <20141202032612.GA1106@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> Message-ID: <20141202065903.5d78e475@top-laptop> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 03:26:12 +0000 khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. It is not a bug. The new version ignores > GPG_AGENT_INFO, so according to the Arch Wiki, Gnome Keyring can no > longer be used as a GPG Agent. > > I was just wondering if other people were in a similar situation and > whether or not they have found a way to do that differently. hmmm, I've similar issues: I'd like to have single-signon. I'm looking for something that, as soon as I login locally: * Unlocks my ssh keys trough keychain * Unlocks my gpg keys trough keychain * Permit sudo su for a short moment It has to handle keychain, other agents weren't good enough: * They weren't flexible enough(For instance I've more than one key and a well crafted ssh_config that has settings for the hosts I need to ssh into) * They were lagging with reguard to key formats, and I do use the last ones too. * GDM and so on didn't work with shell-only. I guess that all that has to be done with PAM somehow, but many extra pam modules are lacking. I've also already sent packages requests for PCR about it trough that list for some PAM modules, but I got no replies. example: pam-ssh, and pam_abl. However pam-ssh probably isn't as good as keychain. I currently use keychain for ssh and password-caching for gpg in my mail client(it didn't pickup keychain's gpg agent somehow). Denis. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From elcorreo at deshackra.com Thu Dec 4 04:06:36 2014 From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 22:06:36 -0600 Subject: [Assist] {ssh,gpg} agents Was: GnuPG 2.1 and Gnome Keyring In-Reply-To: <20141202065903.5d78e475@top-laptop> References: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <547D0177.30909@riseup.net> <20141202032612.GA1106@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <20141202065903.5d78e475@top-laptop> Message-ID: <87a934vyzk.fsf@deshackra.com> If you ask me, these changes on GnuPG 2.1 sucks :-/ (yeah, I used to unlock my passwords and gpg keys with gnome-keyring and now it doesn't work!) Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 03:26:12 +0000 > khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for your reply. It is not a bug. The new version ignores >> GPG_AGENT_INFO, so according to the Arch Wiki, Gnome Keyring can no >> longer be used as a GPG Agent. >> >> I was just wondering if other people were in a similar situation and >> whether or not they have found a way to do that differently. > hmmm, > I've similar issues: > > I'd like to have single-signon. > > I'm looking for something that, as soon as I login locally: > * Unlocks my ssh keys trough keychain > * Unlocks my gpg keys trough keychain > * Permit sudo su for a short moment > > It has to handle keychain, other agents weren't good enough: > * They weren't flexible enough(For instance I've more than one key and > a well crafted ssh_config that has settings for the hosts I need to > ssh into) > * They were lagging with reguard to key formats, and I do use the last > ones too. > * GDM and so on didn't work with shell-only. > > I guess that all that has to be done with PAM somehow, but many extra > pam modules are lacking. > > I've also already sent packages requests for PCR about it trough that > list for some PAM modules, but I got no replies. > example: pam-ssh, and pam_abl. > > However pam-ssh probably isn't as good as keychain. > > I currently use keychain for ssh and password-caching for gpg in my > mail client(it didn't pickup keychain's gpg agent somehow). > > Denis. > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -- Pax et bonum. Jorge Araya Navarro. ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre https://es.gravatar.com/shackra From kzer-za at cryptolab.net Sat Dec 6 13:34:53 2014 From: kzer-za at cryptolab.net (Kuba Kukielka) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 13:34:53 +0000 Subject: [Assist] [Linux-Libre 3.9.7-gnu] mkinitcpio not adding modules to image In-Reply-To: <1416672589.2822.24.camel@cryptolab.net> References: <1416672589.2822.24.camel@cryptolab.net> Message-ID: <548305FD.4090707@cryptolab.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello, I managed to solve the problem. Not exactly sure how, but it was something to do with the vmlinuz image. Thanks, - --- Kuba Kukielka -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUgwX1AAoJEI2NIwdfk/kl7ZkP/jrYZyHyG29Lna/yrCjgAusU cVYl/0uqvgDuk9RFjY4IBD2Eh3nqKLrdf4wuGowC2cY6QB5R87Q+I3DnX2byvoGU aQHXqs75xy5oWenQ80iNecU9VOFq7Rqztvia/Zud8GgepP/BBt1sPcnSv48KZqpN NrD/0ZyKfpwOYLn9A0iMAOmkmMCg4PGinUpMAe7JpIdJyuQesCsXZVsGeRMZW96T gEL3sXuKikfsAI9gwoqFY5DvuyMWylpQLiPR4EOAuxmSz7B/b69SinGSBQyfanso 85dtfkyvFJzYNdmim8QQlBCB7scnJOaJ5Aa1Gi2d+esqK7F4bl46/8pfClxdLAl8 SLHTLmvz1RD1/LUi2JGR1g6F36TkAwM8uM/5q7HQaQvsq/zsnMAWBSLzm8pub28S NsIdqBncVZU9YOxS4tY2WRrj3brRKAI+v7coKlMLI3erK6CJXzYaWgVCNnVLT787 lcLd5tZLrcmOvnEbAzksuGfdFYDBCq4VJaAix1HUAAMRCx0IHclO+JpAoWq03tnB vNgRl1vfY2Df8+P642wX+qKD9wXGZYi+IzXIY/W+jHVmkFE1hk9S2a3V7c27TnS3 PWpjdpYi380oSrhPtFJnRLD5tGrs+fL76pXGsd3BvEgzG11im0paI8ChhHUQYInb 5e/d3H0QRQYC0FhsZdoF =KXL0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kzer-za at cryptolab.net Sat Dec 6 15:05:06 2014 From: kzer-za at cryptolab.net (Kuba Kukielka) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 15:05:06 +0000 Subject: [Assist] [Xorg] Still problems with the radeon driver. Message-ID: <54831B22.3080008@cryptolab.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello, I have posted about this problem before, but now since I could compile my kernel, I got much more information than before. Did not want to bloat your servers with a 40kb text file, so I added it into a pastebin. > http://freetexthost.com/uqrieftwks Hopefully that should provide enough information. Thanks, - --- Kuba Kukielka P.S Note that the Arch's Linux kernel works fine, but after installing linux-libre and installing it again made it not work. Odd. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUgxsSAAoJEI2NIwdfk/klXFIP/21jbVqKMK8I51ax1hIsLI0C xxvLfpFRVfLreQO5j3UIozf74gVC268Il0KljF8U7cpmLTs+xa4Wxzw1ec72s6bu 2Tif6q3pF5ui8ZjYUaw+ITIQ8+KLk6LthmP+jQqXRS7SrE8ampACL1mK9EV2HHyJ EEuhELByq6dSSq6rGqsBej67mgPRyKDYY1+RueEWRuZj5f9U8NTqaLbDZ8lQ2ngK BFI4FPoqzLIk6K2V4C9jrqffISPGp5r0LMX9AVQDPXN7vVCkfiRuTTSFH/F91CB8 AiLfXlA+wSykAEjrTxLeu+nN2Iz5+APabM3BANYVkniNmAJV2Td1RtKattrqEvdn uZCPt5Zg5Ofp8P11+4UKD811g32ufxLFZ/guX9IXvGTyku6mbg9KpxDgqTeKjFs9 kuNn81EEFBqJxkPD9Bf4y2EPgy2Z+plKn4CPZdVi7JnDv2X+Sj76rz6cwz5wixI4 OCKK4mV4Tf5J1EkmcoIO+P+4LcKc70cq7ml30Q8cScB3in7jUad99rALxLCbizHd rxPJ+Nk0uj0cLQjoK/bYx0vWpHwSyp7PGqVb3FghMyqTLLK75Zuhq5wxoR3GEjVJ xI0iuJRFR/BaGOi1y5tWZOJiGAYA4Tfhh4l+z8tsP0+ADWE4bejHVBdEOMkqAGKE QCYgczWmYh8CdRxyvahs =5j3E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kzer-za at cryptolab.net Sat Dec 6 22:50:55 2014 From: kzer-za at cryptolab.net (Kuba Kukielka) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 22:50:55 +0000 Subject: [Assist] [Linux-Libre 3.9.7-gnu] mkinitcpio not adding modules to image In-Reply-To: <548305FD.4090707@cryptolab.net> References: <548305FD.4090707@cryptolab.net> Message-ID: <5483884F.7060402@cryptolab.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Nevermind, It does not work after all. I have no clue why. I suppose I will be using the Linux kernel since that seems to be compiling fine. Thanks, - --- Kuba Kukielka -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUg4hGAAoJEI2NIwdfk/klROcP/3mq9YmvhZotmjnMpXJBXUVs 6+O+EtallB+6I14EqmmXrz05RIvRRtWGcXGDtdEx0GFT/iMWmIT/zUoarLICkY9R upaHly2fki6RcJPLIB/vh0oK2KkJbbYajktSzz08OqI22VtXjakmpfIK/J3wXV+y lqa9rR1g2y5PsvSAUuX4gbjKx6RamW+7jccYZawPvxdJx3ln2X9mfAiXG35SDSwu nENFXdHlzW+HIWn/eAvcZUVXtUDu27Y6zrS+3VIQUUq7FfoytVzeRj0QVx5Q99JS WPXQPCwpum7ub5r1Cuzeh1P7X3ouw9yJpfk2ZQcVgPGg7QibpdO/sFm3XPDvhiKH hyZko/U2/wALoq1tieivOU6ypft454F+zpXItCfDtbVhK1a5UK9FPSrno4ZgHy9U Vxq1wUDLZV/ngro33rf/sZ8g1FwRtkZX9WsXBqQW+HPakiLxc6gCgDRTEcNU+2JA y2yd5ts8dhItjzJkbacsQeainTPUdFXF03Q2fMfz62nx3OrymPA39uOv+3FbsCTJ RYS2objDS4VnDgOkPJCAIqKf28YFDz6JeAHV7nh4LVzUQKzZr+qr+cyTKfFXM57P w3phbqPjcuzHT8RVoYtpH6uTQSo/WwuEo7ZtXSEKS0UQwnmad4r9+bLNbtqc5ygk ShcYiYMZu1yTxvBKdemx =T2xq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From GNUtoo at no-log.org Mon Dec 8 20:43:27 2014 From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:43:27 +0100 Subject: [Assist] {ssh,gpg} agents Was: GnuPG 2.1 and Gnome Keyring In-Reply-To: <20141202065903.5d78e475@top-laptop> References: <20141201231357.GC30992@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <547D0177.30909@riseup.net> <20141202032612.GA1106@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <20141202065903.5d78e475@top-laptop> Message-ID: <20141208214327.0fa97f6b@top-laptop> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 06:59:03 +0100 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > I'd like to have single-signon. > > I'm looking for something that, as soon as I login locally: > * Unlocks my ssh keys trough keychain > * Unlocks my gpg keys trough keychain [...] > * GDM and so on didn't work with shell-only. That's probably because I do source keychain agent's variables after GDM started(in the virtual terminals for instance). Denis. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From khoi at member.fsf.org Wed Dec 10 00:52:54 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 00:52:54 +0000 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted Message-ID: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> Hey, I tried to install packer but it says the package is corrupted. Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? Merci, Also, fauno, have you had the time to update pandoc-static? Khoi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aurelien at hackers.camp Wed Dec 10 07:11:11 2014 From: aurelien at hackers.camp (=?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_DESBRI=C3=88RES?=) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:11:11 +0100 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted In-Reply-To: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> (khoi@member.fsf.org's message of "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 00:52:54 +0000") References: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> Message-ID: <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> khoi at member.fsf.org writes: > Hey, > > I tried to install packer but it says the package is corrupted. > > Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? > > Merci, > > Also, fauno, have you had the time to update pandoc-static? > > Khoi > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> [uncle at bob ~]$ sudo pacman -S packer [sudo] password for uncle: resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (1): packer-20140103-1 Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.05 MiB :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages ... packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 [################################] 100% (1/1) checking keys in keyring [################################] 100% (1/1) checking package integrity [################################] 100% (1/1) loading package files [################################] 100% (1/1) checking for file conflicts [################################] 100% (1/1) checking available disk space [################################] 100% (1/1) installing packer [################################] 100% Optional dependencies for packer sudo: install and update packages as non-root [installed] customizepkg: apply customizepkg modifications Can you please paste the message you got? it works for me. -- Aurelien DESBRIERES From emulatorman at riseup.net Wed Dec 10 13:28:16 2014 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:28:16 -0200 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted In-Reply-To: <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> References: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> Message-ID: <54884A70.1030303@riseup.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 12/10/2014 05:11 AM, Aur?lien DESBRI?RES wrote: > khoi at member.fsf.org writes: > >> Hey, >> >> I tried to install packer but it says the package is corrupted. >> >> Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? >> >> Merci, >> >> Also, fauno, have you had the time to update pandoc-static? >> >> Khoi _______________________________________________ Assist >> mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> > > [uncle at bob ~]$ sudo pacman -S packer [sudo] password for uncle: > resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... > > Packages (1): packer-20140103-1 > > Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.05 MiB > > :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages ... > packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 > [################################] 100% (1/1) checking keys in > keyring [################################] 100% (1/1) checking > package integrity [################################] 100% (1/1) > loading package files [################################] 100% > (1/1) checking for file conflicts > [################################] 100% (1/1) checking available > disk space [################################] 100% (1/1) installing > packer [################################] 100% Optional > dependencies for packer sudo: install and update packages as > non-root [installed] customizepkg: apply customizepkg > modifications > > > Can you please paste the message you got? it works for me. > Khoi, did you read about GnuPG-2.1 and the pacman keyring on our website? [0] Maybe it could solve your problem. [0]:https://www.parabola.nu/news/gnupg-21-and-the-pacman-keyring/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUiEpjAAoJEOaXR1L5cERW1P0P/1BdSqZ5Tutt5Q9vY7TbBXG+ sgkd4agqbKa7jTvF/8mmt5as0px1eUZevdrwQU1zWJSHSIBcMGvdM49Bjre3c+Sa UPofd0tmVHdo6ZsDAly2rxeRFLp7kuHVe3HwQgYooHbxjYB/Gztwkzvqz0THlOft yZ5LTvg5U48eZtoa2U8PNfZFsy156eu5KBWtH8FqC67OvYtOtvmhrM0MQfGNWVZu bc4KOVEFt0PXoCwu2t9YpX3lgcU6gUn6HiZbI1aL5J2kC0n3iLzikoGSQ5KOqbEs DJ5m/2E15ry2ycli11Nv06Brhwz7j0s1efyIJtM7qvXU9PCPZiqc1kMkE8GEhPak wLJthIjVCuwzb71keECX3z5uwOO0CWYuXz40fLQzbHZOteHxUeddcbrEK4CTfB1K yeab/lDgHq72qfFR0ZonYac6YO3p8jtVETRlXM4yZRKvE6E1a2ppF2V6uwgtc3kT 1nAb3Xly/Lm9MNJpkpq/9iAFKQM7zge0jE/Isj5g+7lDWAlwvzfl0t17K5SMYmKc tTp2v75f6t1FR3jrl/6TKXBkwHxlrQOXYcFkhthku5JCWPLKZHrgkJqc/QhDSF/+ 3TnbcPcPz0T6u8VxHeswDa4AFx67Wep4nA6YEzsyXmiG66mzrIeCKzuiVVXL4o7k p7TF1UddUZhaGXA/0t+U =hlJp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From khoi at member.fsf.org Wed Dec 10 16:23:52 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:23:52 +0000 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted In-Reply-To: <54884A70.1030303@riseup.net> References: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> <54884A70.1030303@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20141210162352.GA10406@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> Hey, Thanks for your replies. I get the following message (after following the instructions on the parabola website) [root at libreboot khoi]# pacman -Sy packer :: Synchronising package databases... libre is up to date core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date pcr is up to date resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (4): expac-4-2 jansson-2.7-1 jshon-20131105-1 packer-20140103-1 Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.23 MiB :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y :: Retrieving packages ... packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 [######################################################] 100% (4/4) checking keys in keyring [######################################################] 100% downloading required keys... :: Import PGP key 4096R/, "Aur?lien DESBRI?RES (Run Free! Run GNU.org) ", created: 2014-06-01? [Y/n] y error: key "Aur?lien DESBRI?RES (Run Free! Run GNU.org) " could not be imported error: required key missing from keyring error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. I had a look on the keyserver, and there are two keys to your name. Which one should I import? My very uneducated guess is that last time I imported the wrong key but I don't know which one I imported since I just deleted my gnupg folder. Thanks for your help again, Khoi On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:28:16AM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >On 12/10/2014 05:11 AM, Aur?lien DESBRI?RES wrote: >> khoi at member.fsf.org writes: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I tried to install packer but it says the package is corrupted. >>> >>> Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? >>> >>> Merci, >>> >>> Also, fauno, have you had the time to update pandoc-static? >>> >>> Khoi _______________________________________________ Assist >>> mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >> >> [uncle at bob ~]$ sudo pacman -S packer [sudo] password for uncle: >> resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... >> >> Packages (1): packer-20140103-1 >> >> Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.05 MiB >> >> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages ... >> packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 >> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking keys in >> keyring [################################] 100% (1/1) checking >> package integrity [################################] 100% (1/1) >> loading package files [################################] 100% >> (1/1) checking for file conflicts >> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking available >> disk space [################################] 100% (1/1) installing >> packer [################################] 100% Optional >> dependencies for packer sudo: install and update packages as >> non-root [installed] customizepkg: apply customizepkg >> modifications >> >> >> Can you please paste the message you got? it works for me. >> >Khoi, did you read about GnuPG-2.1 and the pacman keyring on our >website? [0] >Maybe it could solve your problem. > >[0]:https://www.parabola.nu/news/gnupg-21-and-the-pacman-keyring/ >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 818 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Wed Dec 10 21:20:29 2014 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:20:29 -0200 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted In-Reply-To: <20141210162352.GA10406@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> References: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> <54884A70.1030303@riseup.net> <20141210162352.GA10406@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> Message-ID: <5488B91D.6010000@riseup.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I've built a new version of packer, try the new one if works On 12/10/2014 02:23 PM, khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: > Hey, > > Thanks for your replies. I get the following message (after > following the instructions on the parabola website) > > [root at libreboot khoi]# pacman -Sy packer :: Synchronising package > databases... libre is up to date core is up to date extra is up to > date community is up to date pcr is up to date resolving > dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... > > Packages (4): expac-4-2 jansson-2.7-1 jshon-20131105-1 > packer-20140103-1 > > Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.23 MiB > > :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y :: Retrieving packages ... > packer-20140103-1-any > 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 > [######################################################] 100% (4/4) > checking keys in keyring > [######################################################] 100% > downloading required keys... :: Import PGP key 4096R/, "Aur?lien > DESBRI?RES (Run Free! Run GNU.org) ", > created: 2014-06-01? [Y/n] y error: key "Aur?lien DESBRI?RES (Run > Free! Run GNU.org) " could not be imported > error: required key missing from keyring error: failed to commit > transaction (unexpected error) Errors occurred, no packages were > upgraded. > > I had a look on the keyserver, and there are two keys to your > name. Which one should I import? My very uneducated guess is that > last time I imported the wrong key but I don't know which one I > imported since I just deleted my gnupg folder. > > Thanks for your help again, > > Khoi > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:28:16AM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >> On 12/10/2014 05:11 AM, Aur?lien DESBRI?RES wrote: >>> khoi at member.fsf.org writes: >>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I tried to install packer but it says the package is >>>> corrupted. >>>> >>>> Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? >>>> >>>> Merci, >>>> >>>> Also, fauno, have you had the time to update pandoc-static? >>>> >>>> Khoi _______________________________________________ Assist >>>> mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >>> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >>> >>> [uncle at bob ~]$ sudo pacman -S packer [sudo] password for >>> uncle: resolving dependencies... looking for >>> inter-conflicts... >>> >>> Packages (1): packer-20140103-1 >>> >>> Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.05 >>> MiB >>> >>> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages ... >>> packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 >>> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking keys in >>> keyring [################################] 100% (1/1) checking >>> package integrity [################################] 100% >>> (1/1) loading package files [################################] >>> 100% (1/1) checking for file conflicts >>> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking >>> available disk space [################################] 100% >>> (1/1) installing packer [################################] 100% >>> Optional dependencies for packer sudo: install and update >>> packages as non-root [installed] customizepkg: apply >>> customizepkg modifications >>> >>> >>> Can you please paste the message you got? it works for me. >>> >> Khoi, did you read about GnuPG-2.1 and the pacman keyring on our >> website? [0] Maybe it could solve your problem. >> >> [0]:https://www.parabola.nu/news/gnupg-21-and-the-pacman-keyring/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Assist mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUiLkdAAoJEOaXR1L5cERWLTgQAJq0+i6Ue7h/l1RfXDfN6Yj9 BZrFBZXjioMIe165mwSQfaDeFqqcWXJd0eUvn8TZ665rkUx1IBpXhpvnwd8/dNmx ovYEEjy1pz4nE+1gnNgi8QnAzPuOgG4lTJG6UYXX5jE+UBj592jXSkM0neszJj0y JBpvjXpamikQYGv8InBpQog5RLYaIAoHd8JIX9Ykh4eZMK7PjnI7tXxO0r8i5PtU 2EZaoPU7h6F/FUqZNAtqptnRKVveQRIurtY7cpuMBUFfO4YbqtzkUSmzypUg01UG n7cFt+2FE61wP2YKmplayykHGNpejYCC/Yy9+asetpv8J6Zm6N+Aut2yMsViM1ne 1kj37+xjgBl2Xri9Av3skdrMLUCexEUVVQom6Q5LVuj8owqQtdFDxjJJC40U4tz9 Tses7F+TGqdAp+LwqkP1rQ6/ftGAXtWOfJV3N8SJO8XVbrKbs3m6cK8wIv7Eh1CX iqGPlNQFxhgFIIoaw5btxx7DyJIMQ2iX1VOXb/2qhZLJYFGYB39s5plOyCw54R3Z I1EFuMTU4RUtiWjfidrm+tqIA1C2PkLiW3B0/RcuzXd4K5jnDzLcT9fgSigOD2Qo 6gcYz2UQBEt1IvIRSGm5FN/mS1D23nTrtO+Iiz/xkErbOF4nwJaqdLegVig113Vq pss+L2BH65g5EVkdoshE =AaCq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From khoi at member.fsf.org Wed Dec 10 21:41:10 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:41:10 +0000 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted In-Reply-To: <5488B91D.6010000@riseup.net> References: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> <54884A70.1030303@riseup.net> <20141210162352.GA10406@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> <5488B91D.6010000@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20141210214110.GA21822@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> Hey, Thanks for your reply! Everything works! Thanks to you to Aurelien! Khoi On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 07:20:29PM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >I've built a new version of packer, try the new one if works > >On 12/10/2014 02:23 PM, khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Thanks for your replies. I get the following message (after >> following the instructions on the parabola website) >> >> [root at libreboot khoi]# pacman -Sy packer :: Synchronising package >> databases... libre is up to date core is up to date extra is up to >> date community is up to date pcr is up to date resolving >> dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... >> >> Packages (4): expac-4-2 jansson-2.7-1 jshon-20131105-1 >> packer-20140103-1 >> >> Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.23 MiB >> >> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y :: Retrieving packages ... >> packer-20140103-1-any >> 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 >> [######################################################] 100% (4/4) >> checking keys in keyring >> [######################################################] 100% >> downloading required keys... :: Import PGP key 4096R/, "Aur?lien >> DESBRI?RES (Run Free! Run GNU.org) ", >> created: 2014-06-01? [Y/n] y error: key "Aur?lien DESBRI?RES (Run >> Free! Run GNU.org) " could not be imported >> error: required key missing from keyring error: failed to commit >> transaction (unexpected error) Errors occurred, no packages were >> upgraded. >> >> I had a look on the keyserver, and there are two keys to your >> name. Which one should I import? My very uneducated guess is that >> last time I imported the wrong key but I don't know which one I >> imported since I just deleted my gnupg folder. >> >> Thanks for your help again, >> >> Khoi >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:28:16AM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >>> On 12/10/2014 05:11 AM, Aur?lien DESBRI?RES wrote: >>>> khoi at member.fsf.org writes: >>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> I tried to install packer but it says the package is >>>>> corrupted. >>>>> >>>>> Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? >>>>> >>>>> Merci, >>>>> >>>>> Also, fauno, have you had the time to update pandoc-static? >>>>> >>>>> Khoi _______________________________________________ Assist >>>>> mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>>>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >>>> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >>>> >>>> [uncle at bob ~]$ sudo pacman -S packer [sudo] password for >>>> uncle: resolving dependencies... looking for >>>> inter-conflicts... >>>> >>>> Packages (1): packer-20140103-1 >>>> >>>> Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.05 >>>> MiB >>>> >>>> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages ... >>>> packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 >>>> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking keys in >>>> keyring [################################] 100% (1/1) checking >>>> package integrity [################################] 100% >>>> (1/1) loading package files [################################] >>>> 100% (1/1) checking for file conflicts >>>> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking >>>> available disk space [################################] 100% >>>> (1/1) installing packer [################################] 100% >>>> Optional dependencies for packer sudo: install and update >>>> packages as non-root [installed] customizepkg: apply >>>> customizepkg modifications >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you please paste the message you got? it works for me. >>>> >>> Khoi, did you read about GnuPG-2.1 and the pacman keyring on our >>> website? [0] Maybe it could solve your problem. >>> >>> [0]:https://www.parabola.nu/news/gnupg-21-and-the-pacman-keyring/ >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> Assist mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emulatorman at riseup.net Wed Dec 10 21:49:33 2014 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:49:33 -0200 Subject: [Assist] Pcr/packer corrupted In-Reply-To: <20141210214110.GA21822@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> References: <20141210005254.GA31827@bkn.studentcom.co.uk> <87388o6kts.fsf@hackers.camp> <54884A70.1030303@riseup.net> <20141210162352.GA10406@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> <5488B91D.6010000@riseup.net> <20141210214110.GA21822@libreboot.studentcom.co.uk> Message-ID: <5488BFED.1070308@riseup.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 You're welcome! On 12/10/2014 07:41 PM, khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: > Hey, > > Thanks for your reply! Everything works! > > Thanks to you to Aurelien! > > Khoi On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 07:20:29PM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >> I've built a new version of packer, try the new one if works >> >> On 12/10/2014 02:23 PM, khoi at member.fsf.org wrote: >>> Hey, >>> >>> Thanks for your replies. I get the following message (after >>> following the instructions on the parabola website) >>> >>> [root at libreboot khoi]# pacman -Sy packer :: Synchronising >>> package databases... libre is up to date core is up to date >>> extra is up to date community is up to date pcr is up to date >>> resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... >>> >>> Packages (4): expac-4-2 jansson-2.7-1 jshon-20131105-1 >>> packer-20140103-1 >>> >>> Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.23 >>> MiB >>> >>> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y :: Retrieving packages >>> ... packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 >>> [######################################################] 100% >>> (4/4) checking keys in keyring >>> [######################################################] 100% >>> downloading required keys... :: Import PGP key 4096R/, >>> "Aur?lien DESBRI?RES (Run Free! Run GNU.org) >>> ", created: 2014-06-01? [Y/n] y error: >>> key "Aur?lien DESBRI?RES (Run Free! Run GNU.org) >>> " could not be imported error: required >>> key missing from keyring error: failed to commit transaction >>> (unexpected error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. >>> >>> I had a look on the keyserver, and there are two keys to your >>> name. Which one should I import? My very uneducated guess is >>> that last time I imported the wrong key but I don't know which >>> one I imported since I just deleted my gnupg folder. >>> >>> Thanks for your help again, >>> >>> Khoi >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:28:16AM -0200, Andr? Silva wrote: >>>> On 12/10/2014 05:11 AM, Aur?lien DESBRI?RES wrote: >>>>> khoi at member.fsf.org writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried to install packer but it says the package is >>>>>> corrupted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Aurelien, is seems to be your package, can you help me? >>>>>> >>>>>> Merci, >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, fauno, have you had the time to update >>>>>> pandoc-static? >>>>>> >>>>>> Khoi _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Assist mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>>>>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >>>>> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> >>>>> >>>>> [uncle at bob ~]$ sudo pacman -S packer [sudo] password for >>>>> uncle: resolving dependencies... looking for >>>>> inter-conflicts... >>>>> >>>>> Packages (1): packer-20140103-1 >>>>> >>>>> Total Download Size: 0.01 MiB Total Installed Size: >>>>> 0.05 MiB >>>>> >>>>> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages >>>>> ... packer-20140103-1-any 9.5 KiB 0.00B/s >>>>> 00:00 [################################] 100% (1/1) >>>>> checking keys in keyring [################################] >>>>> 100% (1/1) checking package integrity >>>>> [################################] 100% (1/1) loading >>>>> package files [################################] 100% (1/1) >>>>> checking for file conflicts >>>>> [################################] 100% (1/1) checking >>>>> available disk space [################################] >>>>> 100% (1/1) installing packer >>>>> [################################] 100% Optional >>>>> dependencies for packer sudo: install and update packages >>>>> as non-root [installed] customizepkg: apply customizepkg >>>>> modifications >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can you please paste the message you got? it works for me. >>>>> >>>> Khoi, did you read about GnuPG-2.1 and the pacman keyring on >>>> our website? [0] Maybe it could solve your problem. >>>> >>>> [0]:https://www.parabola.nu/news/gnupg-21-and-the-pacman-keyring/ >>>> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Assist mailing list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >> >> _______________________________________________ Assist mailing >> list Assist at lists.parabola.nu >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUiL/jAAoJEOaXR1L5cERWWUEP/RK7P1GpHuNzOqGqazinA++k +thnUB6F/wjXDWYVGvDP09Tr9emewcxlWBlC4yl4UiXXsaosZ/2QTglgmmvtDqKk AV1ZW3mY/nlHUyg5Sdl7QpxSsmclQk518ql7EEyXeXcpDNWpfkHV782VU0pcQ6nb sH7/A6GKXQOBPMUWl+PCkAlIzB1YecYMWswYvaPk8buc+qy9s57zaed0Y8DGkCI6 boLNql02Z2qetELTMe+F0gFeSmo4c/q6WU/6YgTY9ZmkLJQ63LfwEtu38yaDnZnw pc5s8OM5AKz83uUYZg7DFRYDvVb8POoCuIh79IdGVB5RexLWL7gD5Nqlpudv6pF0 likWa6cXEXXCPpojDzQwMPuyKNqVjzqRXSjLQxMW/+8WjTYqjGIoV2hfoj8fdESL 3QlLQm0HlmsE0Woy+jOozt3DfE5qKGkKaMt4NwIcRw27Jg2/ruDp9l9x+U3ab70H cHWZHIJiVgrGBUdPadhvAqnc/9CD5aa/xp5cGU7GNpSxOYn02I8b8sGfix5LtPXL pzxd/668DNiQcjZuKYyS0KPP6MNayt03SfaIskntFkqlsCjLe0R05jk3exeb4MnC 4jduwI5bGylz4+ne+vIy+n2VN9/BK0/k+Cu3IY9joyAoA+GBjinI2ep4tJsFQjYj BQgurO5/Gv8E+o3f3R1u =3/mI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kzer-za at cryptolab.net Wed Dec 10 21:52:32 2014 From: kzer-za at cryptolab.net (Kuba Kukielka) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:52:32 +0000 Subject: [Assist] [Xorg] Still problems with the radeon driver. In-Reply-To: <54831B22.3080008@cryptolab.net> References: <54831B22.3080008@cryptolab.net> Message-ID: <5488C0A0.1000906@cryptolab.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello, I have come to a conclusion. The Linux-Libre firmware package does not include the specific device file that my GPU needs. Only the Linux firmware package includes this file. I installed the packages linux-git and linux-git-firware from the AUR and now my GPU works fine. Since Linux is technically licensed by the GPL so it is technically free software, but some blobs are not. I will need to get a new GPU, which I should since my GPU is quite old, and I am thinking of getting the one from Think Penguin. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/geforce-8400gs-1gb-pci-express-20-video-card-gnulinux-full-low-profile-brackets I'm pretty sure this will be compatible with Linux-Libre. Thank you for all your help, - --- Kuba Kukielka -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUiMCSAAoJEI2NIwdfk/klS8MP/jGTvMQ2lr/y58q6kPYiEvZs xK2KxEXBO8Z53Q/EOLlIpY4nNTotZ+B0rYheYV+kXWUgURP9orTruJnpg0loU32l ndVt3krz6kcqVWegWFdAfkWzYkpRVwj0e9+p+ZB/oVcHWaVlbfIfHJfssaq5sz1k N7zNl/eH1tNwTfEdUzg9wofrq43fq2DDDTIDGCAtaJ/hgXeJVrvU9EcCxmJnwQ79 FbUJ2bPjjVEX7wef3z3yxQXmALdKkt1np864uVZ+8FadrK3sjdEnGhHLVa0XsY+s sZV6dV/OVO6ceEtJMq9nx/8+bZCNqHJotI81lQfedegcY5eXsEedKLpFAIt8Fyc5 KybSmAOXt+wuyVAEJOdp3U9BoQYh9dz8jD5/u6LMJsd9q0LKquESpinvUMBda942 XJncfvfSlwvnbjROp1osZ1lQnJ7seHlSpbtZT7Csq2ezsFPHlReb9U618hq9/ITZ vwWNX3Pir8orC+pTwBSMr/Yr5sCuNJT7LF84XIEbtWjGms6446hgePE+fjuzcn8V 5mXT//laxwImN8yDN56MSc/07RYx3KRjSi1FdRBNd2bpcluEXuoL0jOn87e7Cb2X G7j6286cVJRp9S5C31hvsiD2TBDe5XfZNasvlf0Dq5Td64jnMui8cgl9yNpDoKX3 6oXk3bXeD1sTIHAYIRaS =kxy/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From emulatorman at riseup.net Wed Dec 10 22:17:22 2014 From: emulatorman at riseup.net (=?windows-1252?Q?Andr=E9_Silva?=) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:17:22 -0200 Subject: [Assist] [Xorg] Still problems with the radeon driver. In-Reply-To: <5488C0A0.1000906@cryptolab.net> References: <54831B22.3080008@cryptolab.net> <5488C0A0.1000906@cryptolab.net> Message-ID: <5488C672.8090603@riseup.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 12/10/2014 07:52 PM, Kuba Kukielka wrote: > Hello, > > I have come to a conclusion. The Linux-Libre firmware package does > not include the specific device file that my GPU needs. Only the > Linux firmware package includes this file. I installed the > packages linux-git and linux-git-firware from the AUR and now my > GPU works fine. Since Linux is technically licensed by the GPL so > it is technically free software, but some blobs are not. > > I will need to get a new GPU, which I should since my GPU is quite > old, and I am thinking of getting the one from Think Penguin. > > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/geforce-8400gs-1gb-pci-express-20-video-card-gnulinux-full-low-profile-brackets > > I'm pretty sure this will be compatible with Linux-Libre. > > Thank you for all your help, > > > --- Kuba Kukielka All video cards from NV50 family [0] are 100% compatible and stable with Linux-libre. I'm using Geforce 9800GT on my machine and it works perfect with Xonotic that is a game that requires 3D acceleration support :) [0]:http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/#nv50familytesla -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUiMZgAAoJEOaXR1L5cERW1ZkP/1gpdP78kKfpPGJcuBfsAV8N PpXg7rIBmxEG03/Y+Kx4lCeU9H81GfEeDiccUju+4ottVavIyf1EsP5tFGX0FlyH JHUOvRA8UvxGAFTXkjIOrV1dqlWt2J7TOcdHt4aGVc3fRv46KMBUupAnugUmiK/r esgQKqPL5Ng0ummaiHG9bPAlDUBMIpaRKIObtByZDi/4CjLYc4+GHbmSRKnRQhk7 qf2jrFbHvJvPd5TGCb+aL1FBj+tsQSkmRItaiS+ft3k/9Wl17d/MjFeBVpQtqlFX 8IyjuWhKhz0CX8hXCsrRAeBFQ0+BxHqTNLpR6n0glYe5+0zsHloGBAA6x9GXd6kU QtDZ8JysewLDvWHxlMHCVju98zmLxBl115EawPVQAreMHjbcd6ut7nP3GIDpfEx6 HRuxZ0koVtiZVI4FdvWrzKRRRCGK0HWlGso84esMETBQcgRgY4H1RPgd2dej2zWf wVlkV+oAE6R1/fCRONrBfOd4GQL3uDoSNtKieBtzDtOwQM+5F77UYUEvQT/Hmm0u GbY2njwaLqMBOLtqYTxSWFnwjL/XXWgjl34LGGTv9ACgQ8DOhHBMsgmghruehuJP 6LBJ/etagHIPxC1M9ahCOgawDHyl5iq5bXsZoSfUQJHIq/4KZRY8z8SLP43Tm7u2 ux5zjs6XtdDaj030WtBm =3EgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From khoi at member.fsf.org Thu Dec 18 12:51:39 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:51:39 +0000 Subject: [Assist] Internal microphone for Libreboot T60 Message-ID: <20141218125138.GA29865@libreboot> Hi, I'm trying to use the internal microphone on a Libreboot T60 but it doesn't seem to work (I use pulseaudio-alsa). 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El 18 de diciembre de 2014 06:51:39 CST, khoi at member.fsf.org escribi?: >Hi, > >I'm trying to use the internal microphone on a Libreboot T60 but it >doesn't seem to work (I use pulseaudio-alsa). > >Can anyone help me? > >Thanks! > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist - -- Enviado desde mi tel?fono con K-9 Mail. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: APG v1.1.1 iQFgBAEBCgBKBQJUkvXgQxxKb3JnZSBBcmF5YSBOYXZhcnJvIChpZGVudGlkYWQg cHJpbmNpcGFsKSA8ZWxjb3JyZW9AZGVzaGFja3JhLmNvbT4ACgkQva2WBfBqo7vJ ZQf/Y1s8uFyjJ+aZDAhr3o2Ro++gCXP0WVcOz41NGKhubHQoqlw0FbGHFu6qax9x EMpoBH1do30YLpDMHVZs7DcKIE5snAQq92nv+N4T7CyruS995FKszDjaDwIfk1hd bXjysmkrNMIIfF4Ni87RXjaVE5SbeJF1qKKDWVAjg1r4MGCbBlmSjw9uezNmwS7l qhN98Bh7sTBEe7qlgCqPbYCBtYtrJRoLMu7T/f6uAB5EEppIKMdarESj9+VgqkCw 2XjYL6vowheBdRuYg/B36nObjPpk1a9pueoG0aEeg/j3pYoIPvR+T6LDngyBglDx go2kgk89XgpfYsUqnGS0W28zFQ== =00DP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mtjm at mtjm.eu Thu Dec 18 20:35:41 2014 From: mtjm at mtjm.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:35:41 +0100 Subject: [Assist] Internal microphone for Libreboot T60 In-Reply-To: <20141218125138.GA29865@libreboot> (khoi@member.fsf.org's message of "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:51:39 +0000") References: <20141218125138.GA29865@libreboot> Message-ID: <87r3vwwvaa.fsf@mtjm.eu> > I'm trying to use the internal microphone on a Libreboot T60 but it > doesn't seem to work (I use pulseaudio-alsa). Ask the person you bought it from? Do you know if it works with a different distro or software configuration? Does output (speaker or external headphones) work? With any sound issues on a Thinkpad, I would start from using the volume buttons, since they control a different state than is known to the software. I don't know if they affect input too. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 818 bytes Desc: not available URL: From khoi at member.fsf.org Thu Dec 18 22:09:22 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (khoi at member.fsf.org) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:09:22 +0000 Subject: [Assist] Internal microphone for Libreboot T60 In-Reply-To: <8FC105AC-ED7F-409C-8CE8-F996D94EDBE0@deshackra.com> References: <20141218125138.GA29865@libreboot> <8FC105AC-ED7F-409C-8CE8-F996D94EDBE0@deshackra.com> Message-ID: <20141218220921.GA650@libreboot.home> Hi, Thanks for your replies. I randomly tried all settings on alsamixer and it finally worked. Thanks for your help again! Khoi On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 09:42:24AM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: >setting your audio can be tricky, I'll get my T60 today or tomorrow so maybe I can take a look by my own and help you but using the same machine! > >El 18 de diciembre de 2014 06:51:39 CST, khoi at member.fsf.org escribi?: >>Hi, >> >>I'm trying to use the internal microphone on a Libreboot T60 but it >>doesn't seem to work (I use pulseaudio-alsa). >> >>Can anyone help me? >> >>Thanks! >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Assist mailing list >>Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > >-- >Enviado desde mi tel?fono con K-9 Mail. > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right before downloading a number of packages, updating was OK. Cheers From lukeshu at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 22 08:13:19 2014 From: lukeshu at sbcglobal.net (Luke Shumaker) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 03:13:19 -0500 Subject: [Assist] Pacman2Pacman http download: *.db.sig: failed In-Reply-To: <94FBC0A6-A2D1-45B3-BF9A-F04C6E83B512@riseup.net> References: <94FBC0A6-A2D1-45B3-BF9A-F04C6E83B512@riseup.net> Message-ID: <87h9woyue8.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> At Mon, 22 Dec 2014 01:20:18 +0000, ingegnue wrote: > I was downloading packages on a fresh installation, did pacmatic -Syu, and got this: > > Pacman2pacman http download: nonprism.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: libre.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: core.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: extra.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: community.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: libre-multilib.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: multilib.db.sig: failed > Pacman2pacman http download: pcr.db.sig: failed > > Why is it failing? Right before downloading a number of packages, updating was OK. The .db files aren't signed. I'm not sure why packman tries to get .sig files for them when pacman.conf:XferCommand is set, but that's an expected "error" when using pacman configured with XferCommand set. You can just ignore it. -- Happy hacking, ~ Luke Shumaker From ingegnue at riseup.net Mon Dec 22 15:03:44 2014 From: ingegnue at riseup.net (ingegnue) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:03:44 +0000 Subject: [Assist] Pacman2Pacman http download: *.db.sig: failed In-Reply-To: <87h9woyue8.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> References: <94FBC0A6-A2D1-45B3-BF9A-F04C6E83B512@riseup.net> <87h9woyue8.wl-lukeshu@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3548F448-2FF4-45C0-8EFE-20D6991FA6FD@riseup.net> Oh, OK! Thanks :) On December 22, 2014 3:13:19 AM EST, Luke Shumaker wrote: >At Mon, 22 Dec 2014 01:20:18 +0000, >ingegnue wrote: >> I was downloading packages on a fresh installation, did pacmatic >-Syu, and got this: >> >> Pacman2pacman http download: nonprism.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: libre.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: core.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: extra.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: community.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: libre-multilib.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: multilib.db.sig: failed >> Pacman2pacman http download: pcr.db.sig: failed >> >> Why is it failing? Right before downloading a number of packages, >updating was OK. > >The .db files aren't signed. I'm not sure why packman tries to get >.sig files for them when pacman.conf:XferCommand is set, but that's an >expected "error" when using pacman configured with XferCommand set. >You can just ignore it. > >-- >Happy hacking, >~ Luke Shumaker From starbasecafe at gmail.com Sat Dec 27 15:58:05 2014 From: starbasecafe at gmail.com (Rill) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:58:05 -0600 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers Message-ID: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> Hello, I'm new to the list and new to Parabola though I've used ArchLinux for a while. I'm wondering how to get a free wifi driver. If this question has been asked before, do not hesitate to send me a link to a thread or page. The iwl3945 wifi driver is in the kernel, but it seems to be classified non-free. So what to do? I can't enable it myself. I'm told it is non-free and that's the end of the matter. This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose exceptions or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? Tia. Rill From elcorreo at deshackra.com Sat Dec 27 19:46:31 2014 From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 13:46:31 -0600 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> Rill writes: > This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose exceptions > or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of freedom you talk about is a misconception of what freedom actually is. You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should check first your actual wifi card) [1]: https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/undef I did this for my old laptop. -- Pax et bonum. Jorge Araya Navarro. ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre https://es.gravatar.com/shackra From khoi at member.fsf.org Sat Dec 27 20:18:17 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (Binh-Khoi Nguyen) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:18:17 +0000 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> Message-ID: <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> I heard that sometimes the manufacturer blacklists wifi cards, allowing you to only replace a wifi card with another one from the same manufacturer. Is that true? How do you check whether it's the case for your laptop? On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:46:31PM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: > >Rill writes: > >> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose exceptions >> or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? > >Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of freedom you talk about is a misconception of >what freedom actually is. > >You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of >hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should >check first your actual wifi card) > >[1]: https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/undef > >I did this for my old laptop. > >-- >Pax et bonum. >Jorge Araya Navarro. >ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >https://es.gravatar.com/shackra >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ingegnue at riseup.net Sun Dec 28 02:15:45 2014 From: ingegnue at riseup.net (ingegnue) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 02:15:45 +0000 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> Message-ID: I replaced my wireless card with one from Think Penguin. It was a mini PCIe, but I knew that and was able to replace it myself because I have training as a technician. Perhaps you can go to a PC repair shop and get someone to do it. They'd know which one to pick from this page: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux On December 27, 2014 10:58:05 AM EST, Rill wrote: >Hello, >I'm new to the list and new to Parabola though I've used ArchLinux for >a >while. >I'm wondering how to get a free wifi driver. If this question has been >asked before, do not hesitate to send me a link to a thread or page. >The iwl3945 wifi driver is in the kernel, but it seems to be classified > >non-free. So what to do? I can't enable it myself. I'm told it is >non-free and that's the end of the matter. >This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose >exceptions >or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? >Tia. >Rill > >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist From elcorreo at deshackra.com Sun Dec 28 17:45:40 2014 From: elcorreo at deshackra.com (Jorge Araya Navarro) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:40 -0600 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> Message-ID: <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com> I don't think such thing is even true... Binh-Khoi Nguyen writes: > I heard that sometimes the manufacturer blacklists wifi cards, allowing > you to only replace a wifi card with another one from the same > manufacturer. Is that true? How do you check whether it's the case for > your laptop? > On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:46:31PM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: >> >>Rill writes: >> >>> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose exceptions >>> or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? >> >>Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of freedom you talk about is a misconception of >>what freedom actually is. >> >>You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of >>hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should >>check first your actual wifi card) >> >>[1]: https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/undef >> >>I did this for my old laptop. >> >>-- >>Pax et bonum. >>Jorge Araya Navarro. >>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra >>_______________________________________________ >>Assist mailing list >>Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist -- Pax et bonum. Jorge Araya Navarro. ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre https://es.gravatar.com/shackra From khoi at member.fsf.org Sun Dec 28 17:52:35 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (Binh-Khoi Nguyen) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:52:35 +0000 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com> Message-ID: <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org> I've seen it mentioned by lots of people on the triquel forums. For, example: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/where-can-i-buy-liberated-wifi-card If you can confirm that it's actually not true, then I'll try to get my wifi card replaced :) On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:45:40AM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: >I don't think such thing is even true... > >Binh-Khoi Nguyen writes: > >> I heard that sometimes the manufacturer blacklists wifi cards, allowing >> you to only replace a wifi card with another one from the same >> manufacturer. Is that true? How do you check whether it's the case for >> your laptop? >> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:46:31PM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: >>> >>>Rill writes: >>> >>>> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose exceptions >>>> or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? >>> >>>Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of freedom you talk about is a misconception of >>>what freedom actually is. >>> >>>You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of >>>hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should >>>check first your actual wifi card) >>> >>>[1]: https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/undef >>> >>>I did this for my old laptop. >>> >>>-- >>>Pax et bonum. >>>Jorge Araya Navarro. >>>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Assist mailing list >>>Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > >-- >Pax et bonum. >Jorge Araya Navarro. >ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >https://es.gravatar.com/shackra -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ingegnue at riseup.net Sun Dec 28 23:25:51 2014 From: ingegnue at riseup.net (ingegnue) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:25:51 +0000 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org> Message-ID: <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net> It depends. Mine, from 2009, gave me no trouble. Newer ones might though. Perhaps research will do, or perhaps just try it and return it if the card is rejected. Or buy a USB one. On December 28, 2014 12:52:35 PM EST, Binh-Khoi Nguyen wrote: >I've seen it mentioned by lots of people on the triquel forums. > >For, example: >https://trisquel.info/en/forum/where-can-i-buy-liberated-wifi-card > >If you can confirm that it's actually not true, then I'll try to get my > >wifi card replaced :) > >On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:45:40AM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: >>I don't think such thing is even true... >> >>Binh-Khoi Nguyen writes: >> >>> I heard that sometimes the manufacturer blacklists wifi cards, >allowing >>> you to only replace a wifi card with another one from the same >>> manufacturer. Is that true? How do you check whether it's the case >for >>> your laptop? >>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:46:31PM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: >>>> >>>>Rill writes: >>>> >>>>> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose >exceptions >>>>> or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? >>>> >>>>Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of >freedom you talk about is a misconception of >>>>what freedom actually is. >>>> >>>>You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a >look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of >>>>hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is >usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should >>>>check first your actual wifi card) >>>> >>>>[1]: >https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/undef >>>> >>>>I did this for my old laptop. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Pax et bonum. >>>>Jorge Araya Navarro. >>>>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en >Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>>>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola >GNU/Linux-libre >>>>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai >kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>>>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Assist mailing list >>>>Assist at lists.parabola.nu >>>>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist >> >>-- >>Pax et bonum. >>Jorge Araya Navarro. >>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en >Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola >GNU/Linux-libre >>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai >kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre >>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Assist mailing list >Assist at lists.parabola.nu >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist From isacdaavid at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 07:33:01 2014 From: isacdaavid at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isaac_David_Reyes_Gonz=C3=A1lez?=) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:33:01 -0600 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org> <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net> Message-ID: The much beloved Thinkpads X60 and T60 from 200{6,7} that are able to run Libreboot are one example of laptops that refuse to work with different PCI WiFi chips, by default. The blacklisting occurs at the BIOS, so replacing it with Libreboot is what allows in the first place to use another card that will work with free software. It really depends on the laptop but I don't think this practice is ubiquitous. As ingegnue, I can only recommend doing your own research, or buying one of the USB (instead of PCI) dongles that work with free software to avoid further hassle. The USB ones are guaranteed to work with any laptop, the ones that work with free software (as found on aforementioned links) are guaranteed to work under any kernel Linux, libre or not. Take the intersection and those are the cards that will work on 100% free GNU/Linux distros like Parabola, regardless of laptop models. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:25 PM, ingegnue wrote: > It depends. Mine, from 2009, gave me no trouble. Newer ones might though. > Perhaps research will do, or perhaps just try it and return it if the card > is rejected. Or buy a USB one. > > On December 28, 2014 12:52:35 PM EST, Binh-Khoi Nguyen < > khoi at member.fsf.org> wrote: > >I've seen it mentioned by lots of people on the triquel forums. > > > >For, example: > >https://trisquel.info/en/forum/where-can-i-buy-liberated-wifi-card > > > >If you can confirm that it's actually not true, then I'll try to get my > > > >wifi card replaced :) > > > >On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:45:40AM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: > >>I don't think such thing is even true... > >> > >>Binh-Khoi Nguyen writes: > >> > >>> I heard that sometimes the manufacturer blacklists wifi cards, > >allowing > >>> you to only replace a wifi card with another one from the same > >>> manufacturer. Is that true? How do you check whether it's the case > >for > >>> your laptop? > >>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:46:31PM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Rill writes: > >>>> > >>>>> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose > >exceptions > >>>>> or to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? > >>>> > >>>>Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of > >freedom you talk about is a misconception of > >>>>what freedom actually is. > >>>> > >>>>You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a > >look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of > >>>>hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is > >usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should > >>>>check first your actual wifi card) > >>>> > >>>>[1]: > > > https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/undef > >>>> > >>>>I did this for my old laptop. > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Pax et bonum. > >>>>Jorge Araya Navarro. > >>>>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en > >Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>>>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola > >GNU/Linux-libre > >>>>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai > >kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>>>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Assist mailing list > >>>>Assist at lists.parabola.nu > >>>>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > >> > >>-- > >>Pax et bonum. > >>Jorge Araya Navarro. > >>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en > >Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola > >GNU/Linux-libre > >>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai > >kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Assist mailing list > >Assist at lists.parabola.nu > >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From isacdaavid at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 08:34:26 2014 From: isacdaavid at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isaac_David_Reyes_Gonz=C3=A1lez?=) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 02:34:26 -0600 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Rill wrote: > The iwl3945 wifi driver is in the kernel, but it seems to be classified > non-free. So what to do? I can't enable it myself. I'm told it is non-free > and that's the end of the matter. > as far as my knowledge goes, if the driver is non-free then it shouldn't even exist in Linux-libre. If the chip requires the kernel to load nonfree firmware on it then the whole card is useless under Linux-libre, even if the driver is free. This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose exceptions or > to use my laptop away from a wired internet connection? > Tia. > Rill > > Free software won't (it actually cannot in a practical fashion, by definition) tie your hands on what you want to install. You can always make the exception and lose the freedom; you have the source code and the rights to modify it as you see fit, but that's too extreme of a method in this case because I know from experience what it takes to make Linux-libre load a blob. This doesn't mean, however, that free software like Linux-libre should make installing proprietary stuff explicitly easy. In fact, recommending proprietary software is one of the reasons why seemingly free packages are not free, as is shipping proprietary parts/files/modules obviously. That's why Linux has to be debblobed to make Linux-libre, and that's why I don't think the details in your email are true. What you probably saw was (<-- a palindrome :O) a dmesg output informing you that the kernel identified your hardware but has no software to use because it was explicitly taken away. Should this still sound odd, read https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.html > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From khoi at member.fsf.org Mon Dec 29 09:08:25 2014 From: khoi at member.fsf.org (Binh-Khoi Nguyen) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:08:25 +0000 Subject: [Assist] wireless drivers In-Reply-To: References: <549ED70D.3020409@gmail.com> <87wq5cg9k8.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141227201817.GA22116@libreboot.coova.org> <87bnmnhdmj.fsf@deshackra.com> <20141228175235.GA25587@libreboot.coova.org> <93CD7DAC-3905-4513-B8C0-4C648EBE89F5@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20141229090824.GC31989@libreboot.coova.org> Thanks for your reply. According to Chris from ThinkPenguin, this practice has become quite common unfortunately for mainstream manufacturers. I already use a USB one, I was just wondering whether I could replace the Wifi card. I'll do my own research then :) Thanks for all your replies! On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 01:33:01AM -0600, Isaac David Reyes Gonz?lez wrote: >The much beloved Thinkpads X60 and T60 from 200{6,7} that are able to run >Libreboot are one example of laptops that refuse to work with different PCI >WiFi chips, by default. The blacklisting occurs at the BIOS, so replacing it >with Libreboot is what allows in the first place to use another card that will >work with free software. > >It really depends on the laptop but I don't think this practice is ubiquitous. >As ingegnue, I can only recommend doing your own research, or buying one of the >USB (instead of PCI) dongles that work with free software to avoid further >hassle. The USB ones are guaranteed to work with any laptop, the ones that work >with free software (as found on aforementioned links) are guaranteed to work >under any kernel Linux, libre or not. Take the intersection and those are the >cards that will work on 100% free GNU/Linux distros like Parabola, regardless >of laptop models. > >On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:25 PM, ingegnue wrote: > > It depends. Mine, from 2009, gave me no trouble. Newer ones might though. > Perhaps research will do, or perhaps just try it and return it if the card > is rejected. Or buy a USB one. > > On December 28, 2014 12:52:35 PM EST, Binh-Khoi Nguyen > wrote: > >I've seen it mentioned by lots of people on the triquel forums. > > > >For, example: > >https://trisquel.info/en/forum/where-can-i-buy-liberated-wifi-card > > > >If you can confirm that it's actually not true, then I'll try to get my > > > >wifi card replaced :) > > > >On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:45:40AM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: > >>I don't think such thing is even true... > >> > >>Binh-Khoi Nguyen writes: > >> > >>> I heard that sometimes the manufacturer blacklists wifi cards, > >allowing > >>> you to only replace a wifi card with another one from the same > >>> manufacturer. Is that true? How do you check whether it's the case > >for > >>> your laptop? > >>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:46:31PM -0600, Jorge Araya Navarro wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Rill writes: > >>>> > >>>>> This seems odd to me. Doesn't freedom suggest I get to choose > >exceptions > >>>>> or to use my laptop away from? a wired internet connection? > >>>> > >>>>Well, no, freedom is the right to do what we ought. That kind of > >freedom you talk about is a misconception of > >>>>what freedom actually is. > >>>> > >>>>You could get a new wifi card that works with free drivers, take a > >look here[1] and be sure that is a piece of > >>>>hardware compatible with you laptop's socket (for laptops it is > >usual that the card is a mini-PCI, but should > >>>>check first your actual wifi card) > >>>> > >>>>[1]: > >https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/mini-PCI-E/undef/ > undef > >>>> > >>>>I did this for my old laptop. > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Pax et bonum. > >>>>Jorge Araya Navarro. > >>>>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en > >Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>>>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola > >GNU/Linux-libre > >>>>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai > >kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>>>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Assist mailing list > >>>>Assist at lists.parabola.nu > >>>>https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > >> > >>-- > >>Pax et bonum. > >>Jorge Araya Navarro. > >>ES: Dise?ador Publicitario, Programador Python y colaborador en > >Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>EN: Ads Designer, Python programmer and contributor Parabola > >GNU/Linux-libre > >>EO: Anonco grafikisto, Pitino programalingvo programisto kai > >kontribuanto en Parabola GNU/Linux-libre > >>https://es.gravatar.com/shackra > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Assist mailing list > >Assist at lists.parabola.nu > >https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > > _______________________________________________ > Assist mailing list > Assist at lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/assist > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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