From jorgean at lavabit.com  Thu Mar  1 05:10:21 2012
From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:10:21 -0600
Subject: [Assist] How can I compile a module for my kernel without
 having to recompile the whole kernel?
In-Reply-To: <CADosZ1caQ+3jvqo06GcLD=f1FynCAQjkr7aLbaubW6zfB1Hydw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADosZ1caQ+3jvqo06GcLD=f1FynCAQjkr7aLbaubW6zfB1Hydw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>



> Hi!
> 
> I'm using a laptop that needs the vt8623fb module and I don't know how
> I can just compile the module alone since recompiling the whole kernel
> (even if it's tweaked) takes way too much time on my machine.
> 
> I've lost 3days doing nothing but unsuccessful researches on the
> subject.
> Now I spent something like 8~9hours compiling the kernel using the ABS
> (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Compilation/Arch_Build_System)
> with the modules I needed and it just ended up creating a dummy empty
> package (while saying that everything was done successfully).
> Not to mention that patching the kernel from 3.2 to 3.2.7 just fails
> miserably for no reason (?!) so I had to tweak the PKGBUILD to grab
> the GNU/Linux Libre Kernel 3.2.7 directly.
> 
> It's seriously driving me mad and I'm starting to wonder if I just
> doesn't have a IQ high enough to do all of theses things.
> 
> If anyone knows how to help me, you have all my attention. For now
> I'll just prevent myself from smashing this computer on the floor.
> Also, before anyone start to answer my problem by not answering it: I
> don't want to use another distribution than Parabola. I have a problem
> and I want to fix it.
> 
> Thank you all in advance for your answers,
> Marc-Alexandre Espiaut

I'm forwarding this message to the dev list because looks like nobody
wants to help me out with the list for assist people.
I can't help you out with that, is very technical for my skills, but,
that module's source code is free as in freedom? sorry, we must ask
first... 
-- 

Jorge Araya Navarro
Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre.
Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica.
http://swt.encyclomundi.net
Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra
identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet
Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org
Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!.
el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs,
te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, 
??despierta ahora!!:
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://replicant.us/about/
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From lunavorax at gmail.com  Thu Mar  1 11:12:03 2012
From: lunavorax at gmail.com (Marc-Alexandre Espiaut)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:12:03 +0100
Subject: [Assist] How can I compile a module for my kernel without
 having to recompile the whole kernel?
In-Reply-To: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <CADosZ1caQ+3jvqo06GcLD=f1FynCAQjkr7aLbaubW6zfB1Hydw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CADosZ1eyJePNwJqO7Kv+N7g-ZTzT0f2xzv=0vb1vA2pa4OH12g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

The module's source is indeed free as in freedom, otherwise I don't know
why it would be available in the Linux Libre source code.
I'm still trying to tweak the PKGBUILD of the Linux Libre Kernel but it
keeps outputing dummy packages.

Marc-Alexandre Espiaut

2012/3/1 Jorge Araya Navarro <jorgean at lavabit.com>

> **
>
>  Hi!
>
> I'm using a laptop that needs the vt8623fb module and I don't know how
> I can just compile the module alone since recompiling the whole kernel
> (even if it's tweaked) takes way too much time on my machine.
>
> I've lost 3days doing nothing but unsuccessful researches on the subject.
> Now I spent something like 8~9hours compiling the kernel using the ABS
> (
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Compilation/Arch_Build_System
> )
> with the modules I needed and it just ended up creating a dummy empty
> package (while saying that everything was done successfully).
> Not to mention that patching the kernel from 3.2 to 3.2.7 just fails
> miserably for no reason (?!) so I had to tweak the PKGBUILD to grab
> the GNU/Linux Libre Kernel 3.2.7 directly.
>
> It's seriously driving me mad and I'm starting to wonder if I just
> doesn't have a IQ high enough to do all of theses things.
>
> If anyone knows how to help me, you have all my attention. For now
> I'll just prevent myself from smashing this computer on the floor.
> Also, before anyone start to answer my problem by not answering it: I
> don't want to use another distribution than Parabola. I have a problem
> and I want to fix it.
>
> Thank you all in advance for your answers,
> Marc-Alexandre Espiaut
>
> I'm forwarding this message to the dev list because looks like nobody
> wants to help me out with the list for assist people.
> I can't help you out with that, is very technical for my skills, but, that
> module's source code is free as in freedom? sorry, we must ask first...
>   --
>
> Jorge Araya Navarro
> Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre.
> Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica.http://swt.encyclomundi.net
> Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackraidenti.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet
> Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org
> Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!.
> el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs,
> te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte,
> ??despierta ahora!!:http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.htmlhttp://replicant.us/about/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From juliamohana at gmx.de  Mon Mar 19 15:32:19 2012
From: juliamohana at gmx.de (Julia Leute)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:32:19 +0100
Subject: [Assist] BCM4313 [14e4:4727] with libre linux
Message-ID: <4F675183.9020606@gmx.de>

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Dear Help,

currently I'm an Arch Linux user and I would like to free my Arch
Linux to Parabola.

But I'm afraid that my wireless will stop working afterwards, and that
would be very bad, because atm I only can use wireless, if it breaks,
it will be very uncomfortable to fix it...

I have a broadcom chip:
Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[14e4:4727] (rev 01)

which works perfectly fine with brcmsmac in Arch Linux. But as far as
I know brcmsmac uses proprietary firmware. So it's not included in
your kernel version, right?

I know that one can use openfwwf with b43 in principal, but b43
doesn't support my chip as far as I know.

So, is there a way to run Parabola on this netbook, or will
linux-libre break my wireless?

Thanks,
Julia
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From jorgean at lavabit.com  Mon Mar 19 18:40:44 2012
From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:40:44 -0600
Subject: [Assist] BCM4313 [14e4:4727] with libre linux
In-Reply-To: <4F675183.9020606@gmx.de>
References: <4F675183.9020606@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <1332182444.2256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>



> Dear Help,
> 
> currently I'm an Arch Linux user and I would like to free my Arch
> Linux to Parabola.
> 
> But I'm afraid that my wireless will stop working afterwards, and that
> would be very bad, because atm I only can use wireless, if it breaks,
> it will be very uncomfortable to fix it...
> 
> I have a broadcom chip:
> Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
> [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
> 
> which works perfectly fine with brcmsmac in Arch Linux. But as far as
> I know brcmsmac uses proprietary firmware. So it's not included in
> your kernel version, right?
> 
> I know that one can use openfwwf with b43 in principal, but b43
> doesn't support my chip as far as I know.
> 
> So, is there a way to run Parabola on this netbook, or will
> linux-libre break my wireless?
> 
> Thanks,
> Julia

hello, Julia!

Looks like your wifi card doesn't work with linux-libre[1], which is the
kernel for all libre distributions of GNU/Linux. The driver code is
under GNU GPL but there is a binary blob, that's kind suspicious, I
recommend you to buy a wifi card which respect your freedom (and less
suspicious!), here is a list of wifi cards which works with
Linux-Libre[2] that list just show cards of PCI type, because looks like
your card isn't a PCI-Express or a MiniPCI either (but, is better you
paste what lspci -nn | grep Ethernet shows, just to be sure).

If you install Parabola or another free software distribution, your wifi
card won't be broken, it just will stop working :)

cheers! 

[1]
http://www.h-node.org/wifi/view/en/201/-Broadcom-Corporation-BCM4313-802-11b-g-n-
[2]
http://www.h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/PCI/alphabetically/undef
-- 

Jorge Araya Navarro
Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre.
Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica.
http://swt.encyclomundi.net
Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra
identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet
Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org
Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!.
el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs,
te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, 
??despierta ahora!!:
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://replicant.us/about/

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From quiliro at congresolibre.org  Mon Mar 19 23:56:35 2012
From: quiliro at congresolibre.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Quiliro_Ord=F3=F1ez?=)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:56:35 -0500
Subject: [Assist] BCM4313 [14e4:4727] with libre linux
In-Reply-To: <4F675183.9020606@gmx.de>
References: <4F675183.9020606@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4F67C7B3.6060207@congresolibre.org>

These are supported USB WiFi devices 
http://www.h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/USB/undef/undef
I imagine this is more apropiate than Jorge's otherwise great 
suggestions because you wrote you had a netbook.

From jesse.alan.johnson at gmail.com  Tue Mar 27 15:15:14 2012
From: jesse.alan.johnson at gmail.com (Jesse Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:45:14 +0430
Subject: [Assist] Intel Centrino 6230
Message-ID: <CANzG=cnWUcCeWRVFyPo8PUeyMtzrz9QZnRNi4MnUqi27UPOE1g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have been fighting with this for a few days, and I am sure there is a
simple answer I am just missing. I am trying to get the wireless on my
system running and I am having a hard time getting the kernel module loaded.

lspci -k returns no kernel driver loaded for my Intel Centrino Advanced-N
6230 (rev 34), Subsystem Intel Centrino Advanced-N AGN

I have "MODULES=(iwlwifi)" under hardware in my rc.conf and "alias wlan0
iwlwifi" in my modprobe.conf under the modprobe.d directory.

I have manually loaded modules in the past without issue. This one is
escaping me.

Thank you for your assistance,
Jesse
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From jorgean at lavabit.com  Tue Mar 27 17:51:06 2012
From: jorgean at lavabit.com (Jorge Araya Navarro)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:51:06 -0600
Subject: [Assist] Intel Centrino 6230
In-Reply-To: <CANzG=cnWUcCeWRVFyPo8PUeyMtzrz9QZnRNi4MnUqi27UPOE1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANzG=cnWUcCeWRVFyPo8PUeyMtzrz9QZnRNi4MnUqi27UPOE1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1332870666.1784.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hello, Jesse!

Usually, when any part of hardware on your machine won't works is
because proprietary drivers. Your Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 (rev
34), Subsystem Intel Centrino Advanced-N AGN maybe requieres proprietary
software in order to work, maybe not. I can't find it on h-node.com so
I'm not sure.

about iwlwifi, we have that package on blacklist (iwlwifi-1000-ucode,
iwlwifi-3945-ucode, iwlwifi-4965-ucode, iwlwifi-5000-ucode,
iwlwifi-5150-ucode, iwlwifi-6000-ucode) because it requieres and/or
provides proprietary software.

You can watch a list of wifi cards whom doesn't requieres proprietary
software here[1] if yours requieres proprietary software.

cheers!

[1]
http://www.h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/yes/undef/alphabetically/undef
-- 

Jorge Araya Navarro
Universitario, idealista y pseudo-activista del Software Libre.
Siquirres, Lim?n, Costa Rica.
http://swt.encyclomundi.net
Diaspora*: http://diasp.org/u/shackra
identi.ca: http://parlementum.net/sweet
Jabber: shackra at jabberes.org
Skype: ?De ninguna manera, tras de privativo, te esp?an!.
el software privativo en GNU/Linux, al igual que en Windows o en MacOs,
te hace un ser no-libre. Deja de enga?arte, 
??despierta ahora!!:
http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://replicant.us/about/
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From lunavorax at gmail.com  Thu Mar  1 13:00:25 2012
From: lunavorax at gmail.com (Marc-Alexandre Espiaut)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:00:25 -0000
Subject: [Assist] =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BAQUITAINE_seulement=5D_=5BFRANCE_only?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?=5D_Chat_blanc=2C_3_ans=2C_m=E2le_=E0_donner=2E?=
Message-ID: <CADosZ1c1mkHNSDaL5SS_EO939QiVWm1Di7LoPnrrj3+Fmp7WKA@mail.gmail.com>

Bonjour contacts,

J'ai re?u ce courriel ? propos d'un chat blanc ? donner.
Je ne sais pas si le chat ? trouv? preneur donc j'ai d?cid? d'aider un
peu ce chat ? trouver une maison.
>>> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/19091072/sn/205416606/name/Annonce.jpg
>>> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/19091072/sn/25476429/name/IMG_2652.jpg

N'h?sitez pas ? contacter ses maitres ? l'adresse suivante pour plus
d'information : pionste at gmail.com

Marc-Alexandre Espiaut

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Paillot <pionste at gmail.com>
Date: 2012/2/29
Subject: [DONNE] Beau chat blanc, 3 ans, m?le


Nous donnons un chat blanc avec des taches noires, m?le ?g? de trois
ans, castr?, sociable et tr?s propre, avec liti?re et gamelle
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Il a l'habitude de vivre dehors et nous d?m?nageons dans un appartement.

Voir photo dans dossier.

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From quiliro at congresolibre.org  Tue Mar  6 17:44:47 2012
From: quiliro at congresolibre.org (=?UTF-8?B?UXVpbGlybyBPcmTDs8OxZXo=?=)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:44:47 -0000
Subject: [Assist] [Dev] How can I compile a module for my kernel without
 having to recompile the whole kernel?
In-Reply-To: <1330578621.2828.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <CADosZ1caQ+3jvqo06GcLD=f1FynCAQjkr7aLbaubW6zfB1Hydw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4F564D0E.6000908@congresolibre.org>

I am sorry to answer so late. I could not subscribe to the Assist list. 
Thank you Marc-Alexandre for your message and Jorge for forwarding 
it.These are my comments.

It would be better to have just one list so that newbies learn from the 
experts and experts know about newbies problems. Then we will always 
have someone answer questions. If the traffic is high, only then it is 
useful to have separate lists.

El 01/03/12 00:10, Jorge Araya Navarro escribi?:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm using a laptop that needs the vt8623fb module and I don't know how
>> I can just compile the module alone since recompiling the whole kernel
>> (even if it's tweaked) takes way too much time on my machine.
>>

I have not tried to compile a module separately from the kernel. All I 
have done is compiled drivers as modules or into the kernel. 
Nevertheless many drivers  such as video loaded as modules are updated 
without updating the kernel. I would think that you can compile a module 
without compiling the whole kernel.

>> I've lost 3days doing nothing but unsuccessful researches on the subject.
>> Now I spent something like 8~9hours compiling the kernel using the ABS
>> (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Compilation/Arch_Build_System)
>> with the modules I needed and it just ended up creating a dummy empty
>> package (while saying that everything was done successfully).
>> Not to mention that patching the kernel from 3.2 to 3.2.7 just fails
>> miserably for no reason (?!) so I had to tweak the PKGBUILD to grab
>> the GNU/Linux Libre Kernel 3.2.7 directly.
>>

Directly from where? Please describe the process you did and the manuals 
you consulted as well as the error messages that you received. That will 
help suggest solutions.

>> It's seriously driving me mad and I'm starting to wonder if I just
>> doesn't have a IQ high enough to do all of theses things.
>>

Don't feel sorry for yourself. Just keep trying.

>> If anyone knows how to help me, you have all my attention. For now
>> I'll just prevent myself from smashing this computer on the floor.
>> Also, before anyone start to answer my problem by not answering it: I
>> don't want to use another distribution than Parabola. I have a problem
>> and I want to fix it.
>>

That's the soul of a real hacker!

>> Thank you all in advance for your answers,
>> Marc-Alexandre Espiaut
> I'm forwarding this message to the dev list because looks like nobody 
> wants to help me out with the list for assist people.

It is not possible for me to subscribe to Assist because the 
confirmation string is not accepted.

> I can't help you out with that, is very technical for my skills, but, 
> that module's source code is free as in freedom? sorry, we must ask 
> first...
>

If the sources used are linux-Libre there will be no problem about freedom.

After writing all this email I can see the module is in the kernel now 
http://labs.parabola.nu/issues/14
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